That’s Inauguration Day.I don't think so. Explain?
That’s Inauguration Day.I don't think so. Explain?
Looks like the debate was well timed to distract from what the Supreme Court got up to today.
Think the immunity ruling is on Monday.
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
Yeah. He fcuked up big time. The meds kicked in way too late.Got his medication at the wrong time or something, either way, it doesn't matter.
Nobody watches this, while "everyone" watched the debate.
because ultimately when push comes to shove we need the US to be strong.
Biden is not that. Trump for his faults, it's a stronger leader than Biden.
you think Putin would rather Biden or Trump?
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
The American people aren’t going to go and vote for Biden when they don’t like him and aren’t enthused by the prospect of him staying on as POTUS.
People generally don’t get motivated to vote against a worse prospect, they stay home.
“You gotta give em that Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang ya get me?!”
"I love you Poopie forever"“You gotta give em that Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang ya get me?!”
I was hoping i would not see that in the caf also“You gotta give em that Hawk Tuah and spit on that thang ya get me?!”
There was a thread on it. It was a little weirdI was hoping i would not see that in the caf also
In the USA, you either die in office or get embarrassingly removed from your role. It's one or the other.
fecking hell
Can't they just be given whatever the American version of a peerage is and go retire with dignity.
I watched that Podcast. "We adore Joe Biden, he's a fundamentally decent human being who achieved a lot for his country". Yeah, right.It's wild seeing the reaction from the likes of CNN, MSNBC and left-wing podcasts like Pod Save America (who I would imagine would know Biden quite well as Obama's old staffers).
They're really turning the screw on Biden, I think they've made the decision to capitalize on the early timing of this debate to go all out on mounting pressure on him to step down. I think its the right thing to do but its just a testament to just how bad Biden performed.
And they're not just laying down a base level of criticism they feel they need to give in order to keep their credibility, they're taking it further. An example that springs to mind is one of the guys on Pod Save America quite furiously dismissing the idea that Biden grew into the debate, that that did not happen and no one can tell him he saw anything differently. There's some very real anger I think at Biden's insistence on seeing this through.
I'm sure if you looked back at some of these media outlets and individuals, particularly say MSNBC, you'd see them arrogantly and vehemently denying any suggestion that Biden was experiencing cognitive decline. They seem to have bypassed the feeling of utter embarrassment they should be feeling and gone right to placing that embarrassment at Biden's feet.
Well we’re about to see bothIn the USA, you either die in office or get embarrassingly removed from your role. It's one or the other.
Not really. Many did (51 million) but that’s down from 73 million from the first debate between the 2 in 2020.Got his medication at the wrong time or something, either way, it doesn't matter.
Nobody watches this, while "everyone" watched the debate.
Gavin Newsom (California Governor) is 56. Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan Governor) is 52. Hard to call four years out but they look like the front runners of the next set. If they can build Whitmer’s national profile towards 2028 I think she could be a great candidate: useful in the rust belt and, not to sound cynical, but her experiences of being a victim of sexual assault and the recent kidnapping plot would shine a stark light on someone like Trump and the depravity of the American far right as a whole. @Eboue could speak to her more helpfully I’m sure, I believe he’s in Detroit.Is there really any realistic chance of that happening so close to the elections? I’ve always thought it was a terrible idea to let an 81-year old run for presidency and found it puzzling as to why Democrats would not be able to find anyone younger - especially as it would have clearly given them a much better chance against Trump who is not particularly adored by neutrals.
I was absolutely certain when he had been elected the first time that they would have found someone else to run in 2024, think most would have felt the same. Do they really have no young up and coming politicians?
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
I don't think so. Explain?
One guy I think who can do well that’s not talked about yet is J.B.Pritzker, Governor of Illinois, Midwest enough, came from money so shouldn’t be alarming to big business, white, straight, not ugly enough to be hated, not handsome enough to be envied, solid on most traditional Democratic issues, tragic backstory (lost both parents relatively young), and very solid, empathetic public speaking prowess.Gavin Newsom (California Governor) is 56. Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan Governor) is 52. Hard to call four years out but they look like the front runners of the next set. If they can build Whitmer’s national profile towards 2028 I think she could be a great candidate: useful in the rust belt and, not to sound cynical, but her experiences of being a victim of sexual assault and the recent kidnapping plot would shine a stark light on someone like Trump and the depravity of the American far right as a whole. @Eboue could speak to her more helpfully I’m sure, I believe he’s in Detroit.
other names that get bandied about:
Josh Shapiro (51) became Governor of PA last year. Likewise Wes Moore (45) in MD but he is REALLY new to elected office (though he had been around politics for a while) so too early to say anything yet. I always feel like the democrats are always hoping for another (relatively) young, charming black guy to come along and get everyone excited like Obama in 08. That was clearly not Cory Booker. Maybe they’ll think it’s Wes Moore (he is a veteran, has written a few books, and is the polar opposite of a frail old guy..,and the only black governor in the country.
Mayo Pete is still only 42 if they want to open up that jar again
Obviously Putin would rather have Trump. If Trump was President, he wouldn't have sent aid to Ukraine and allowed Putin to stroll right into Kiev.
He was a like a completely different person today at a Dem rally, fired up as fook. Just one stutter and tickly throat. "Donald Trump isn't just a convicted felon, Donald Trump is a one man crime wave". Good shit.
if Trump was president the invasion wouldn't have happened in the first place
This is so confidently asserted that you must have access to some facts that you can now effortlessly present, yes?
This is so confidently asserted that you must have access to some facts that you can now effortlessly present, yes?
no one presented facts to me when they said the opposite
Perhaps you don't have any, and are instead relying on bluster and confident assertion.
if Trump was president the invasion wouldn't have happened in the first place
So he has a great and popular VP standing with him so that wouldn't put anyone off voting for him?Should be obvious. That’s the day he is inaugurated again if he wins. Should he bite the dust after that then the VP will take over and it’s all good. He just needs to stay on his feet until after the election.
So he has a great and popular VP standing with him so that wouldn't put anyone off voting for him?
It isn't the dropping dead part that would worry me most, its the rapid mental decline and the people around him keeping him in office for years and years.