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I followed US politics more intently then that at any other time, primarily because so many Americans were so worried. They saw it as a potential global catastrophe, and I took that at face value. I listened to all of the specific predictions of how this policy, scandal or degradation of presidential norms would have dramatic and lasting damage. Often very specific predictions. They were clearly wrong. Yet they just moved onto the next thing saying the same thing, never reflecting on why they were wrong last time.

What @Godfather said. I don’t think there are no differences but the similarities are much larger than the differences. Both situations are currently bad, are unlikely to end well under the current direction, and it’s possible that Trump will make things worse. But not that much worse, and neither of them had good solutions. Yet people talk about how things are going to collapse in dramatic fashion. They were empirically wrong about that on so many occasions last time.
Both situations could obviously get a lot worse

Last time he was in power he didn't have the senate, which acted as a check on power and there were some elements of his party that were more moderate. Now neither is true its a different story
 
It somehow feels even more bizarre and unreal than the first time. I just can't believe people have been fooled into doing this again :lol:
I mean, there was barely even a platform.

This feels like a MAGA+NotTheseDemocrats vote.
 
Well guess congratz to Trump, also did i just hear he mentioned fecking Adin Ross in his speech lul
 
I'm starting to think you have some crush on me. Do you always respond for other people ?

I'm consistently fascinated by people making up stuff about other people to justify their own positions, yes. You're not special, though I'm not surprised that you're trying to twist a consistent negative behaviour into a compliment. Anything to avoid reflection.

Is it because you're pro Trump?
 
At least we wised up over here and fecked the Tories off. It took 14 years, but we got there. America is going backwards.
 
Why the feck was the caf so positive yesterday.

Feck.
I thought that was really odd too.

From the outside it seemed fairly clear Trump was slight favourite. It never really occurred to me that Harris would win.

I think the messaging from the social circles of those within the US probably influenced this, given the Caf is far more Dem leaning than average.
 
Alright, it’s 2:30 am. Time to call it a night and disconnect from national politics till 28 and focus on local shit here in NC. With a Dem gov and AG we have a chance to not go in the shitter.

I’m sorry rest of the world, but in our defense we’ve always been fecking batshit.
Sleep well my man, and don't worry, i have a (weird, probably unfounded) feeling Trump may well turn out to be good for you lot, and the rest of us.
 
To be fair, while I agree there is always a degree of hysteria around him, I'm not sure a lot of foreign policy stuff necessarily shows itself straight away. Arguably policies enacted by any individual may end up taking a few years to show their effect.

Domestic policy wise,I can't help but feel he was a disaster, will be a disaster again and his rhetoric is scary.
The totality of his domestic policy was disastrous? That’s such a grave term. I would expect the US to be in a much worse position than they started at the end of a disastrous presidential term, and I can’t see how you can say the US ended up in a much worse position. So unless you’re saying what he did individually was a disaster, but the actual impact of the president is very minor, I just don’t see how you can match that up with the evidence.

And just for the record I think Trump is a buffoon and would never vote for him.
 
He really can’t put together a sentence without hyperbolising everything (it’s bestest ever, nobody has ever seen, best in the history, the most important, etc. :lol:)
 
Trump just now: "i'll never be doing a rally again", oh America...
 
Why the feck was the caf so positive yesterday.

Feck.

I still dont understand, even i thou have no real knowledge of US politics, she never stood a chance by things said at very start of this whole thing.
 
I'm consistently fascinated by people making up stuff about other people to justify their own positions, yes. You're not special, though I'm not surprised that you're trying to twist a consistent negative behaviour into a compliment. Anything to avoid reflection.

Is it because you're pro Trump?
Feel free to look back at the last few hundred pages you did not participate in. You're an odd individual.

And yes I'm clearly very pro trump :lol:
 
This speech feels like a preview of what its going to be like for the next 4 years. America the reality tv series :lol:

Hey, if he just stands around holding speeches about how great everything is - that's preferable to w/e that MSG stuff was.
 
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The whole world is going to suffer the next four years, but the US will suffer his consequences for decades.
 
The twisted part of me is actually quite excited to see if he/they is going to do what we think they are going to do...
 
Now the best hope is that Trump stays alive for the next 4 years and the chaos from the previous administration continues into this one. You don't want anyone competent to be at the helm with all forms of government under their control.
 
Dana White thanking Theo Von on the stage of a US Presidential victory speech is just beyond anything the most farcical comedy could come up with.

Idiocracy is here. If we’re honest it’s been bubbling under the surface for a while but it’s out in the open now.
 
What happened to you @Florida Man ? Weren't you a no Trump guy? Last couple of posts seems like you've done a 180
Never liked Trump and still don’t. But I took a step out of the echo chamber ages ago, and simply talked to a lot of people with different views. Got interested in and wise to ideology and geopolitics. Got to see how wildly out of touch American liberals are. And I thought conservatives were bad.
 
Is it the fact that most Americans seemingly believe in Trump, or is it that they don't want to elect a female president?

Or a bit of both?
I'm not sure how much 'female president' has anything to do with it. Biden was on course to lose pretty heavily.

This has been discussed here many times: for the average American who isn't glued to the TV or internet all day, the Trump years were basically fine. And yes, that even includes COVID.
 
Democrats have played this one horribly. From sticking with Biden for too long to going with Harris.
 
I cant stand politics in general but as non American standing on a side, its really scary how people being played into this game system created by both parties, i mean imagine if Biden didnt step down you would be cornered into picking between Biden and Trump, while 3rd option stand no chance regardless of person, thats kinda fecked up. Best part than one side calls other side stupid i mean... Maybe i am wrong due having no real knowledge but thats how it looks to me
 
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