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Arab Americans aren't going to enjoy what happens next.

The US now becomes an intolerable place to live for anyone who isn't a maga cnut, religious fundamentalist or white supremacist. That's all for the Project 2025 guys to sort out, though - all Trump will be interested in for the next four years is personally enriching himself and, because he's a ultimately a child in a man's body, revenge. If you've spent the last four years as a prominent critic of the big orange monster, you can look forward to some coconcoted legal charges coming your way soon.
 
It's really fecked up. Most people along all demographics in the western world are turning right wing and I've seen this in my own community in the UK too. I do feel like media websites such as X have a lot to answer for. The conspiracies and misinformation is out of control.
And its only going to get worse.
 
There is an outside chance that Netanyahu will rub trump the wrong way and he'll take his toys and go home.

Other silver linings?

I can't believe he's even winning the popular vote. You guys are mad.

Yeah and Harris might still win the election :annoyed:
 
Is it the fact that most Americans seemingly believe in Trump, or is it that they don't want to elect a female president?

Or a bit of both?
 
The is was said in 2016, obviously didn’t happen, and people are still saying it. I think it just gives people an excuse to indulge in harmless hysteria.
Let's hope you're right. How the situation in Ukraine will unfold is a massive worry though.
 
The is was said in 2016, obviously didn’t happen, and people are still saying it. I think it just gives people an excuse to indulge in harmless hysteria.

To be fair, while I agree there is always a degree of hysteria around him, I'm not sure a lot of foreign policy stuff necessarily shows itself straight away. Arguably policies enacted by any individual may end up taking a few years to show their effect.

Domestic policy wise,I can't help but feel he was a disaster, will be a disaster again and his rhetoric is scary.
 
But they’re fecking not!!! None of Trumps policies will help most of his base personally . None. Not the deportations (increase costs as labor pool plummets), not his across the board tariffs, not his slashing trillions from the budget, not his deregulation of pollution, etc. they are selling their souls for the mirage of betterment and the permission to freely hate.

This happens all the time stupidly. Look at the Tories over here, seeing people vote and support a party that do not give a feck about them time and time again, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
 
There was some research a while ago that Hispanics didn't like the LatinX term at all. Obviously that is just one data point but wonder what this does for progressive left messaging.
 
What do you reckon will happen in Ukraine and Gaza for a start?
In Gaza it can't get any worse, both parties are the 2 sides of the same coin .

As for Ukraine it will probably end in a negotiated settlement with Russia gaining territory.
 
They are going to win the house and Senate too aren't they? Did he ever have that in his first term?

The next four years be wilding.
 
Alright, it’s 2:30 am. Time to call it a night and disconnect from national politics till 28 and focus on local shit here in NC. With a Dem gov and AG we have a chance to not go in the shitter.

I’m sorry rest of the world, but in our defense we’ve always been fecking batshit.
 
In Gaza it can't get any worse, both parties are the 2 sides of the same coin .

As for Ukraine it will probably end in a negotiated settlement with Russia gaining territory.
And in a few years Putin will go for the rest of Ukraine.
 
Is it the fact that most Americans seemingly believe in Trump, or is it that they don't want to elect a female president?

Or a bit of both?
Probable both but more of the former.
 
I wouldn't be asking of I did but what I do know, as alluded to by @Brwned is that some of you like to engage is a bit of hysteria now and again so I've asked what it's based on.

Well you comfort yourself with that once the Ukrainian government collapses next year, I'm sure it will help.
 
Is it the fact that most Americans seemingly believe in Trump, or is it that they don't want to elect a female president?

Or a bit of both?

Trump had 74 million votes in 2020, Biden had 81 million, he's on track for 70+ million now. Turn out for Kamala is definitely to blame - but the people who vote for him really want him.
 
There is an outside chance that Netanyahu will rub trump the wrong way and he'll take his toys and go home.

Other silver linings?

I can't believe he's even winning the popular vote. You guys are mad.
Yes Trump famously stands up to strong men.
 
What about him being racist as fuk amd promoting hate speech then?
True but for a lot of minorities, that’s not a deal breaker. The economy and cultural issues are more of a deal breaker.
No, he also promised to deport people here legally. Also those who have kids who are citizens but they’re not. Or those who are legal but their parents are not.
I didn’t see enough of that in the media and I guess others didn’t as well.
But my main point is that for a lot of minorities, immigration isn’t a deal breaker.
I know people from Nigeria who are now citizens, who voted for Trump. When I asked why, they know Trump is a racist but they feel life was better under him and they don’t want their child to be gay. It doesn’t make sense when you think about it critically but it gives you a window into their thinking.
 
Just woke up. Talk about that sinking feeling of dread. Ukraine and the Palestinians can kiss their arses goodbye. What happens next is going to be insane. JFC America!
 
There was some research a while ago that Hispanics didn't like the LatinX term at all. Obviously that is just one data point but wonder what this does for progressive left messaging.
It was very obvious on social media that they mostly hated it. Why continue to say something that they've said they don't like? Baffles me.
 
This happens all the time stupidly. Look at the Tories over here, seeing people vote and support a party that do not give a feck about them time and time again, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Maybe if people here realised you are supposed to vote for your local MP and not the PM we'd all be better off...
 
They are going to win the house and Senate too aren't they? Did he ever have that in his first term?

The next four years be wilding.
He had both but there were moderate Republicans that meant he didn’t have the numbers to do everything he wanted without compromise. That’s gone now.
 
Are people surprised with the outcome? Could swear people describing her as unlikeable/fake from very start, mentioning her losing that dem thing few years back etc.
 
I know nothing about military but I follow many who do including General Camporini (former Italy chief of defense) and Colonel Stirpe. The former wrote a book with Mirko Campochiari an Italian of Polish descent whose been spot on throughout the entire war in Ukraine. I posted his views at a time when most of the media (and the opinion in here) was predicting an Ukraine win. Similarly to what happened everywhere they were severely criticized as they were deemed to be too pessimist and guess what, in the end they were right.

If Trump pulls the plug on NATO then we're royally fecked.
NATO is a 32 member strong organisation. I can tell you there are contingencies in place if USA did decide to pull out but I can also tell you with absolute certainty that it is more likely for the US Army chief of staff to strangle Trump in the situation room with his bare hands and no one trying to stop him rather than USA pulling out of NATO.
 
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