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Redplane said:
Except it did. Only people who weren't paying attention during those 4 years (and some of that I don't blame them for considering it was one scandal and bat shit thing after another) can say that with a straight face IMHO
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I followed US politics more intently then that at any other time, primarily because so many Americans were so worried. They saw it as a potential global catastrophe, and I took that at face value. I listened to all of the specific predictions of how this policy, scandal or degradation of presidential norms would have dramatic and lasting damage. Often very specific predictions. They were clearly wrong. Yet they just moved onto the next thing saying the same thing, never reflecting on why they were wrong last time.
Real Name said:
What do you reckon will happen in Ukraine and Gaza for a start?
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What @Godfather said. I don’t think there are no differences but the similarities are much larger than the differences. Both situations are currently bad, are unlikely to end well under the current direction, and it’s possible that Trump will make things worse. But not that much worse, and neither of them had good solutions. Yet people talk about how things are going to collapse in dramatic fashion. They were empirically wrong about that on so many occasions last time.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
Stop it. You'd swear this thread was 90% Harris cheerleaders with their eyes closed.

It wasn't like that at all. People were constantly sharing sources which showed the potential for Trump.
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Reading the reaction in the thread at the moment… tracks
 
Barring the usual Sky News style idiots, the general mood here seems to be one of stunned and fearful incredulity. A collegue of my wife is so upset she had to leave work (she is from Texas originally). The only upside for me is my BIL and SIL are thinking of coming back to get away from a Trump led US.

4 years of this utter lunatic unencumbered by a pandemic and any restraint from the sycophants around him is the most clear and present danger to the world in a very very long time. Hopefully his incompetence will prevent him from fecking things up too much but I don't have much hope.
 
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B20 said:
They are going to win the house and Senate too aren't they? Did he ever have that in his first term?

The next four years be wilding.
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He did for 2 years, 2017 and 2018. The 2018 mid terms flipped the House
 
Ultimate Grib said:
NATO is a 32 member strong organisation. I can tell you there are contingencies in place if USA did decide to pull out but I can also tell you with absolute certainty that it is more likely for the US Army chief of staff to strangle Trump in the situation room with his bare hands and no one trying to stop him rather than USA pulling out of NATO.
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Trump can’t pull the US out without Congressional support, and that’s not going to happen since most Republicans and Dems are pro NATO.
 
Ultimate Grib said:
NATO is a 32 member strong organisation. I can tell you there are contingencies in place if USA did decide to pull out but I can also tell you with absolute certainty that it is more likely for the US Army chief of staff to strangle Trump in the situation room with his bare hands and no one trying to stop him rather than USA pulling out of NATO.
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He can't without congress and senate. They passed a law the last time he threatened to do it.
 
Real Name said:
Why on Earth would Latino, Afro and Arab Americans vote for this guy. He promised mass deportations ffs.
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Not all of them are at risk of that. Infact most if them are not. And economy scores higher as an issue than immigration.
 
astracrazy said:
You lot don't feel this thread was/is a bit of an echo chamber? In hindsight?
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Not sure what you mean by echo chamber really.

If you mean most here wouldn't vote for Trump, yes. That was definitely the case.

If you mean just reinforcing each other's views, then no. Apart from a brief and strange surge of optimism in the last 24 hours, most on here have been terrified of a Trump presidency and constantly worrying about the polls and the liklihood of him winning.

An echo chamber is thinking that Harris will win because everyone on here thinks Trump is so awful. Which was the case for almost nobody.
 
Raoul said:
Trump can’t pull the US out without Congressional support, and that’s not going to happen since most Republicans and Dems are pro NATO.
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I don't know. It seems like if you're a rep, you can't really go against Trump or he'd end your career.
 
And Harris will need to certify Trump

Will Biden/Harris go to the "coronation"?
 
Infra-red said:
The US now becomes an intolerable place to live for anyone who isn't a maga cnut, religious fundamentalist or white supremacist. That's all for the Project 2025 guys to sort out, though - all Trump will be interested in for the next four years is personally enriching himself and, because he's a ultimately a child in a man's body, revenge. If you've spent the last four years as a prominent critic of the big orange monster, you can look forward to some coconcoted legal charges coming your way soon.
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Another post that’s out of touch.
 
TheReligion said:
We are often told we have so much in common with the US (UK) but then I see things like this and feel we couldn’t be more opposite.
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Just wait, in may are the local elections i have the feeling reform might be a big winner in it.
 
This speech feels like a preview of what its going to be like for the next 4 years. America the reality tv series :lol:
 
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