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Right wing politics isn’t a disaster globally, though. They may not like Trump, but they have their local flavor of eccentric, outwardly racist etc. politicians.

Farage is pretty popular is England.
You're being quite generous with either "popular" or "England".
 
With all due respect, when you make stuff up about people publicly, other people might comment on it. Or, are we suddenly against calling people out on their behavior now?

I don't actually expect you to reflect on why you're doing it, but I earnestly mean that it would probably be beneficial to you to do so.
Eboue is perfectly capable of defending himself. I'm pretty sure he doesn't need you for that. I apologized to him and for him it was.
 
CNN reporting so far, Harris has not outperformed Biden by over 3% in a single county across the whole of the country. WOW.
 
Wow, doesn't look like this is even going to be at all close.
 
What stuff was that exactly? Trump is ahead on all of these areas by himself?
Everything in that tweet they either did or supported in the last year. They just did it to people deemed not worthy of existence by most of the free world.
 
She is funding a genocide in Gaza.
Is there any chance you can take a day off? Or take a victory lap somewhere else?

I know we're only allowed to view the fate of our own children through the lens of suffering children in Gaza, but there are a lot of posters on here for whom this is an extremely dark day - OF COURSE not as dark as it is in Gaza - and we really don't need this to be constantly brought up.

We get it, you should be celebrating, can you just mabye do it elsewhere for a little bit?
 
I think the most frightening thing for me is that in 2016 there was energy from the “left” to oppose Trump. I can see nothing but apathy and resignation this time around.
 
I know the world likes to laugh and mock America, but christ how fecking fecked do you have to be to not only elect Trump once, but do it twice? This campaign has been sickening, even more of a joke than the first time, and yet look at these results. Scary.
 
Just woke up, turned on and literally horrified, congrats America you will have done the unthinkable
 
Can't wait for the tech bros to tell me how the $44B purchase of Twitter was a 5D chess move from Elon.
That's honestly probably true though. He made his intentions clear from the get go. It is arguably a huge factor in why we are where we are. It's probably also why Bezos pulled the endorsement - they hold the keys now to mass amounts of user data that is more powerful than just about anything these days when you're trying to get into positions of power.
 
Aye, as a party they did most of it. Trump did it all himself.
Yes, Trump as an individual is most likely worse than anyone by themselves in the democratic party but that doesn't give the latter any excuse for the horrors they unleashed in the last year. It didn't even turn out to be a winning strategy in the elections.
 
Can't wait for the tech bros to tell me how the $44B purchase of Twitter was a 5D chess move from Elon.
Honestly he came out on top, intentional or bumbled. Social media has played a big part in winning this election as people have been bombarded with messages that doubled down on their uneasiness on some of the dem messaging and platform.
Now he can pretty much shape the electric , space industry as he wants as trump will give him free reign.
 
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End of the line for her in terms of high profile politics, do you think?

100%

She will be unemployed come January, and as a final humiliation, as the VP, will have to preside over the US senate codifying Trump’s election.
 
oh dear. What is happening?

Begs the question…Can he really be that bad when he’s got the popular vote as well. He’s up around 5m on Harris. And as it stands it’s very likely he’ll take all 7 swing states. It could end up being an absolute train wreck for Kamala when it’s over
 
I think the most frightening thing for me is that in 2016 there was energy from the “left” to oppose Trump. I can see nothing but apathy and resignation this time around.

100%. "We can't let this happen again". Honestly this feels like one of the darkest days in American history, well that or most embarrassing.

We're a mess, but once again I feel comforted that we're not America.
 
Yes, Trump as an individual is most likely worse than anyone by themselves in the democratic party but that doesn't give the latter any excuse for the horrors they unleashed in the last year. It didn't even turn out to be a winning strategy in the elections.

But criticism of one person is not excusing anyone else. It's literally a binary choice, so it's the lesser of two evils for people.
 
With these results I truly wonder if Harris ever had a path to victory after Biden dropped out. Yes, she did things wrong, but she also won the debate, seemingly had a strong ground game, many strong endorsements, etc. etc.

This is such an overwhelming victory that you can’t pin it on picking the wrong VP or some other detail. Fundamentally, the country wants Trump.
Fundamentally the country wanted a change and for some reason Trump provided that alternative given the Dems stupidly decided to back a corpse until the corpse decided I am dead already and then went on to pick someone who was deader than the corpse to run.I know people get excited about breaking the glass ceilings, and it would have been cool to have an African-Indian-American Woman as the president, but then your only other positive cannot be that "I am not Trump". Also, politics is not idealistic, it is very transactional in nature. Unfortunately, strategy and skullduggery are very much a part of it.

People are not smart enough to discern that the gas prices, homes prices, cost of living increases, inflation etc. etc. are due to a preceding catastrophic event. They vote on feelings. They vote on their living conditions. They vote because of their biases. They vote on false and misleading information they are fed on digital and social media.

The Dems/liberals don't get it. That is why they have lost today, will lose tomorrow and have ended up giving the control of the SC to the conservatives for a generation to come.
 
I think the most frightening thing for me is that in 2016 there was energy from the “left” to oppose Trump. I can see nothing but apathy and resignation this time around.
Think it's bewilderment. It's not even clear what lessons they're supposed to learn from this other than the obvious "run someone more like Trump" or at the very least, "no woman candidate ever again".
 
100%. "We can't let this happen again". Honestly this feels like one of the darkest days in American history, well that or most embarrassing.

We're a mess, but once again I feel comforted that we're not America.
I imagine Starmer is putting on lipgloss as we speak.
 
I think the most frightening thing for me is that in 2016 there was energy from the “left” to oppose Trump. I can see nothing but apathy and resignation this time around.
I think the size and manner, especially the apparent realignment of Latino voters, is causing massive shock.

When the pillars of your parties platform (organized labor, healthcare, equal rights) are rejected by some of the very people that would benefit the most…. feck man, I don’t know.
 
With these results I truly wonder if Harris ever had a path to victory after Biden dropped out. Yes, she did things wrong, but she also won the debate, seemingly had a strong ground game, many strong endorsements, etc. etc.

This is such an overwhelming victory that you can’t pin it on picking the wrong VP or some other detail. Fundamentally, the country wants Trump.
Wasn’t impossible for her to win but the Dems couldn’t have picked a worse candidate, and not like they had many to choose from, or a worse playbook. Never as good at presentation like Obama. Never as clever and calculating like Hillary. A complete plastic. And endorsements by Dick Cheney (who should be tried as a war criminal) and a host of other neocon warhawks was never a flex that liberals thought it was.

But your last point is correct. Democratic Party also blunders by doubling down on identity politics, appealing to emotional arguments more than before, and much less on rational ones. Working class majority, small business owners, big business owners, etc. weren’t feeling it.
 
She is funding a genocide in Gaza and agreed with Trump on immigration.

No candidate put forth by either party would be expressing anything other than "Israel has a right to defend itself"

And his platform of mass-deportation is a touch more extreme than what Kamala’s said on immigration.

I’m no cheerleader for the dems, or Kamala, but there’s bad and then there’s worse.
 
Just saw that (not sure if it was one state) latino men moved 28 points to Trump. Eeeesh.

Is he going to win the majority of white women? If so, well, what can ya do!
 
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