Dubya inherited a shitty hand in 2000 and had the GFC. Trump had Covid. Clinton and Obama had some good hands- don't think it's discernibly one way or the other in recent times.
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That's the point. If you already know the majority of the pople are not intelligent, then perhaps the best course of action is to not depend on their intelligence for votes. Maybe the real idiot is the fella trying to teach Shakespeare to a Llama. Maybe they should have been lured in with fresh bales of hay. If they are single issue voters, appeal to their single-issue votes.
It’s only okay to be like that when it’s not the ones voting the same way as you.
Unbelievable this. How’s he’s even a candidate is baffling then people voting for him in droves.. wow
This is wrong. Russia is done as a country. Economically it is starved and on the brink of collapse.
Militarily UK and France have nuclear deterrent they don't need the US even if it does pull out of NATO.
Bah fecks sake - woke up in the upside down. Going back to sleep and hope to wake up in our own reality
Cuban congratulates Trump.
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Can't trust them to get anything right.
Will be interesting to see how badly he'll feck over Ukraine now, and the effect it will have on Europe.
Then there's the middle east.
Plenty of things that can go badly wrong
Can't trust them to get anything right.
Will be interesting to see how badly he'll feck over Ukraine now, and the effect it will have on Europe.
Then there's the middle east.
Plenty of things that can go badly wrong
Far out, I just realised musk is now going to have a position over the federal agencies to cut them.
Trump didn’t inherit COVID, Biden inherited COVID, Trump inherited a very strong economy from Obama. Literally 8 years of growth.
Obama inherited the financial crisis.
Believe me things will be worse over here. Whenever the US sneezes Europe gets hurt. Just check what happened to Europe during the great depression. Spoiler alert little moustache
Trump is a disaster, globally. However, the rest of the world had no say in his election. We were on the sidelines. That blame is all on Americans. Unforgivable.
In Denmark 6% would have voted for Trump! Similar numbers in all Nordic countries, in Germany and France Trump would have gotten not more than 15% of the votes.
Out of all Europe Trump would only have won in narrowly in Hungary and of course Russia. In the latter with 80%. Says it all.
With these results I truly wonder if Harris ever had a path to victory after Biden dropped out. Yes, she did things wrong, but she also won the debate, seemingly had a strong ground game, many strong endorsements, etc. etc.
This is such an overwhelming victory that you can’t pin it on picking the wrong VP or some other detail. Fundamentally, the country wants Trump.
This is such an overwhelming victory that you can’t pin it on picking the wrong VP or some other detail. Fundamentally, the country wants Trump.
Even Hillary did not give a concession speech the same night as the results. It doesn't matter.
I didn’t label them all. I said it wasn’t a surprise they voted for him in droves, due to the very strong cultural framework centred around machismo bordering on misogyny. A statement I stand by. I’m sorry it made many uncomfortable, but it’s not discriminatory to make valid and demonstrable cultural observations, especially from inside that culture. It’s on a par with another statement I have made tonight, that white men in this country are deeply racist on a large scale.
My personal takeaway from this is to never be optimistic again, not even when thinking you are going to kick the bucket gives you “clarity”.
She didn’t need to concede. Could simply have thanked people and said let’s keep watching the results.
Will the UK and France swap Paris/London for Talinn? We know the answer. I tend to listen to former NATO generals. Europe is a joke militarily.
You lie to yourself. Trump, if it would be in one of the big parties on any country would have 35-45% minimum
Republican fella on CNN going on about deporting rapists without a hint of irony as he celebrates electing one.
My personal takeaway is not to place all my trust in WI_Red's optimism over Wisconsin and then project that onto all the swing states!
She would've been called a sore loser in that case too. She's done. Let her leave in peace.
Seems that way.
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I mostly agree with you except for the white men part. The misogyny is def a big component this election but as we can see from the results it extends beyond race and in some cases also gender. I know plenty of women who think man good, woman bad. It's baffling in a modern society but it also emphasizes how far behind this country is compared to some of its other Western brethren.
FOX News call Trump as President
Obama had the aftermath of the GFC, Dubya had the carnage of 07-08. Similar with Trump and Biden over Covid. Tbh most of the big economic shocks of the past 20 years have been global events, not down to any political party as such.
Fecking hell.
Shit, we had the same takeaway. He’s an asshole.
She was the wrong candidate but she was de facto. She was a useful VP for Biden as an old white dude - identity politics was strong in 2020 and a female POC was great on the ticket but there’s a reason she dropped out of the primaries early in 2020 and we’ve seen that tonight.
They’re copying her narrative by deflecting the same way. It’s as if certain types haven’t learned anything in 8 years.
Right wing politics isn’t a disaster globally, though. They may not like Trump, but they have their local flavor of eccentric, outwardly racist etc. politicians.
Farage is pretty popular is England.
It genuinely is. I've got a busy day ahead so need to make an effort to shut myself off from it.
Any way you look at it, this has been a terrible election for Democrats. Abysmal GOTV numbers, terrible metrics in key demographics, Republicans with all the power in the world to pull off whatever they want, Democrats might even have lost the popular vote and they couldn't even beat a man on economic policy who is talking about tariff systems from the 19th century.
Unbelievable, Jeff.
Unbelievable, Jeff.
Obama. Clinton. Bush. That's about it I think the one that you can bravely bet with a 60% chance of winning
So she's lost the Presidency, the Senate and maybe the House. Nice job.
I don't think being combative is an issue. You might want to reflect on why you're spreading fantasies and misinformation about other forum members, though. Are you lying on purpose, are you gaslighting yourself as a defense mechanism, are you confusing people? It's maybe worth finding out.
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