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But the reasons for that are so obvious, and so clearly not caused by the administration.

A lot of times it’s difficult to parse out the role of the administration on economic performance. Trump in 2017 says the economy’s great and I’m responsible for it. Biden says the economy’s great and I’m responsible for it. The opposition points out that the economy’s just continuing on the trajectory that was set by their predecessor. There’s some truth in both and it’s all a bit messy. It’s reasonable in that scenario that voters just choose an economic story to believe rather than try to make sense of reality.

In this case the casual factors were so well documented - mandatory economic stimulus during the pandemic, supply shocks from the pandemic, Russian oil and gas prices - and the effect was so clearly not unique to the US, that it’s not reasonable for US voters to think I’m worse off because of this government.

Maybe it’s a stretch to ask them to compare US performance to Europe at that time and recognise they’re doing better in keeping inflation lower and brining it down earlier, while seeing employment grow quicker, wages grow further and their 401ks go much higher. Or to compare themselves to China and see a more stable economy with significantly better employment opportunities over the same time.

That might be a stretch to have them look beyond their own country. But there’s really no excuse for them to think that I’m worse off because of this government. That’s just lazy.
I agree with all of that. And it's even more the case that this is silly analysis given how much the President's power on domestic issues is so heavily diluted.

My point was more... people are simple. Inflation has been a major drag on standards of living over recent years. It wouldn't be a surprise in any country for incumbents to take a big hit in that scenario, and we've seen that almost everywhere.

In turn, (IMO) Harris has then run a relatively poor campaign to this end, by not distancing herself in any meaningful way from the Biden administration. Admittedly... that's then an incredibly difficult strategy given her role, and why the Dems were put in a shit position by Biden not stepping down earlier and allowing a more open contest.
 
Majore Greene got reelected with something like 2/3 of the votes (according to abc). I hope I never have to drive through that place :lol:
I have to now and again, it's a redneck crap hole
 
Harris underperformed Biden in Texas, including im Harris county.

Thats also the senate gone, if she wins.

Not looking good for Allred, as a result, and that was pretty much the only competitive seat for dems this cycle, to flip.
 
John King just said that Trump was leading Biden by 244k votes in Georgia at this time in 2020. He currently leads Harris by 242k. Long way to go folks just wait for the votes to come in before melting down.
 
I recently got my money back for an old laptop because the producer failed to fix it after several months, which was nice because it'll buy me a better one and all the important stuff was saved on the cloud and/or externally.

That was my mood until I remembered that my redcafe dataset is gone because it was saved on my desktop as a shitpost. I also lost an amount of Reddit tags the NSA would be proud of.
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I am sorry for your loss.
 
John King just said that Trump was leading Biden by 244k votes in Georgia at this time in 2020. He currently leads Harris by 242k. Long way to go folks just wait for the votes to come in before melting down.
No-one cares about raw totals. The swing is bad.
 
Hopefully no one actually thought that would happen

Well not really, but it was basically their only path to the senate, Tester pulling off a miracle was/is the other.
 
Dekalb is in.
John King just said that Trump was leading Biden by 244k votes in Georgia at this time in 2020. He currently leads Harris by 242k. Long way to go folks just wait for the votes to come in before melting down.

Different times. Dems had a lot of mail-in votes that were yet to be counted. Currently Fulton, DeKalb are already over 70% reported.
 
Ohio goes for Trump, but more worrying is that Brown is down by a couple of points, with over 50% in.
 
The good thing about the way it's going is that it should mean I can head to bed before 4am
 
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Amish showing up.
 
It says 177 to 99 to trump. Does that mean he’s won 177 seats or he’s leading in 177 seats?
 
The good thing about the way it's going is that it should mean I can head to bed before 4am
Well no

I’m very worried

But even if she loses GA and NC and we find out that within next hour. It’ll come down to PA, and no chance we find out that before 4am
 
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