Off to bed, fully expect to wake up to a Trump victory. Hope Harris turns it around.
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No it hasn't.
2020 thread was far more pessimistic than this for a period.
ah. thanks.
Michigan closer than expected so far
Confusing it with my very time consuming and just as serious Qatar in x Greenwood in investigation, perhaps?
If not, I have no clue how you'd get any usable data on Redcafe Trump voters.
No, it wasn’t until 2 hours from now that the dems started looking good. It was another 10 before confidence increased to the point they thought they had a shot.
Georgia, PA and Arizona took ages.
This.
Standard matchday thread behaviour.
Is Decision Desk HQ not reliable or something? Am i missing something?
Yeah. I remember Stop the count bit. just couldnt remember how it had started.
Majore Greene got reelected with something like 2/3 of the votes (according to abc). I hope I never have to drive through that place 
Decision Desk said they called it for Harris 15 minutes ago. That is nonsenical given half the votes are still uncounted.
But the reasons for that are so obvious, and so clearly not caused by the administration.
A lot of times it’s difficult to parse out the role of the administration on economic performance. Trump in 2017 says the economy’s great and I’m responsible for it. In 2021 Biden says the economy’s great and I’m responsible for it. The opposition points out that the economy’s just continuing on the trajectory that was set by their predecessor. There’s some truth in both but it’s mostly bluster and it’s all a bit messy. It’s reasonable in that scenario that voters just choose an economic story to believe rather than try to make sense of reality.
In this case the casual factors of inflation were so well documented - mandatory economic stimulus during the pandemic, supply shocks from the pandemic, Russian oil and gas prices - and the effect was so clearly not unique to the US, that it’s not reasonable for US voters to think I’m worse off because of this government.
Maybe it’s a stretch to ask them to compare US performance to Europe at that time and recognise they’re doing better in keeping inflation lower and brining it down earlier, while seeing employment grow quicker, wages grow further and their 401ks go much higher. Or to compare themselves to China and see a more stable economy with significantly better employment opportunities over the same time.
That might be a stretch to have them look beyond their own country. But there’s really no excuse for them to think that I’m worse off because of this government. That’s just lazy.
Some of your finest work.
I think we need to bring on Maguire, and put him up front.
True, but it all depends on voter turn out in Dem strongholds.
Likely, not 100% yet, but that isn't surprising.
So far. It's still early, but yes a lot of people like Trump.
Red Wave before mail in ballot votes were counted which pushed Biden into victory - the whole stop the vote stuff. Trump is doing better rurally, the rest we don't know yet tbh.
NY called for Harris with 0% votes in.. suspicious... 
Can we sack Ten Hag if that doesn't work?
Not really
Both legal marijuana and abortion amendment defeated in FL, that state is so gone it's kinda comical.
Trump is, as stated, way above expectations in Virginia. No one expected this. She should still win but it's like a 10% swing in a 24 year solid dem state right now. Another two million ish votes due.
2020:
2020:
| Popular vote | 2,413,568 | 1,962,430 |
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| Percentage | 54.11% | 44.00% |
Aye. And then add in the religious component as well. For better or worse Biden himself exuded that macho man image more and obviously is way more outspoken as a Christian as well. Neither should be a factor....but this is still America where people think Jesus would have driven a pickup shooting everyone who does not believe.
Not before Zirkzee gets a meander. He is our last hope
To be fair, does Florida man really need easier access to drugs?
What I remember is that it always starts red but then it gets bluer as the night progresses. CNN map of the rust belt looks good so far.
I will never understand the USA.
Virginia is definitely worrying.
Trump was quite far ahead at this stage
You are correct. The major population centers still have a lot to count.
Abortion measure fails in Florida. Just wow.
I recently got my money back for an old laptop because the producer failed to fix it after several months, which was nice because it'll buy me a better one and all the important stuff was saved on the cloud and/or externally.
That was my mood until I remembered that my redcafe dataset is gone because it was saved on my desktop as a shitpost. I also lost an amount of Reddit tags the NSA would be proud of.
No-one is looking at raw counts - more the swing in declared counties. That's why it looks slightly not good so far. Nothing to do with red having the bigger number.
Must be masochism
Just saw the NYT tracker has a "shift from 2020" option.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html
a lot more red than blue in that map.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html
a lot more red than blue in that map.
Meth is all they need there. Along with all the prescription drugs for the retirement communities.
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