Problem as I see it is that pretty much all news coverage in the US is extremely biased for one side or the other, I mean you can flip between channels and get radically different reports on the same stories, I have a problem with British TV news media becoming less impartial, the BBC should play it down the middle but they have unfortunately become less reliable in recent years, especially news night, however they are a million miles away from what I see on American TV, I mean the absolute lies and propaganda on both sides of the media are beyond disgusting, as somebody looking from outside the US I find it hard to watch, it is so bad, so obviously bad, it is destructive and manipulative, I honestly do not know how any American can stomach it, moreover it is so dangerous, it is easy to see how the populace is stirred up to civil unrest when the media fuels this circus.
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and vibes and personal stories of the "I saw 10 candidate X signs in my street alone" kind are even more pointless.
We have nothing then, so again no justification for some posters here talking with such confidence.
Can totally see Trump celebrating victory tonight even in defeat.
Picking how 5million people will vote based upon reactions from a few people at the airport, is a quite a leap.
This is perhaps one of the worst polls we have seen this election!
"If they show 50/50, it is 50/50."
The underlying motives of the pollsters, subjective corrections to their models, and herding means that this isn't the case.
Haha exactly and what were they supposed to do in an airport? Go up in arms? Protest? Refuse to board the plane?
He will certainly declare victory, likely far earlier than any sort of results can be properly estimated like last time. Whatever else they have lined-up to disrupt the results should they go against them then Trump's early declaration is guaranteed.
We are going to see GA and NC report early/mail in ballots before 9pm EST, maybe earlier. If they are looking good for Trump, he will call the election won, despite no results coming from MI, PA, WI, AZ or NV. He may even call it if they dont look good for him.
I think Harris needs to get in front of this and be on TV beforehand to tell the country that Trump will do this.
With the way Milwaukee counts their early vote ballots, I fully expect MAGa to do something there.
Their post was better than 99% of posts in this thread. You are taking too literally one aspect of their post.
The only reason for this is because the right (Fox News) are so biased, that they make the likes of CNN, ABC, NBC look far left leaning in comparison.
Aparently they get moved to a counting location and wont gen announced until late. There is going to be all kinds of conspiracy around this as it will look like Trump is leading and Harris will later catch him when the Milwaukee count comes in.
The Republican state senate dont want to count early and mail in ballots early, like Florida does. I wonder why?
Dude, check my original post. I'm not defending polls, I'm attacking sentimental evidence.
Fine, polls suck, then we have nothing to justify the confidence that some seem to display here.
Yeah we should all go to the airport and gauge people’s reactions there
Lets revisit once Georgia declares
It's a social indicator.
They weren't pointless, but in wonderful US electoral system vast majority of elections don't matter, the aggregate doesn't matter and every election cycle the only ones that do are the ones that have extremely thin margins.
Harris does like a few rally. Trump has been doing them non stop.
It's normal if it's not as crowded as it was, people got bored after a while. Doesnt mean they stop voting for him
Poll isnt useless. But i doubt even half of the recent "poll" are actually "polled" rather than some dude making bogus survey of 10 people and calling it the "poll"
You may be right - you have a 50/50 chance after all!!!
But it feels about as scientific as those videos of dogs picking the World Cup Final winner...
Hearing talk that Trump is looking stronger than ever in Florida and might improve on his 2020 margins. Not sure what that says about the rest of the country.
I'm guessing when this thread reaches page 666 it will dawn upon us that Trump is going to win...
I reckon one of them might win.
Jill Stein win incoming.
Like Arsenal?
If Kamala does win I think the Dems will look to pardon Trump for all his misdemeanours as a gesture of 'good will' and bridging the divide. Which would be wasteful really, the Republicans definitely wouldn't reciprocate in the reverse scenario, and will continue being as rabid as ever.
Will never happen but I sincerely hope they throw the book at all of the MAGA cronies, Trump, Musk, all the nefarious feckers who took part in the little fascist tour.
Will never happen but I sincerely hope they throw the book at all of the MAGA cronies, Trump, Musk, all the nefarious feckers who took part in the little fascist tour.
Afternoon, Mr Silver.
Regardless of how it won’t be because of what your perception of a reaction in an airport was.
Feck me, this thread has got me pessimistic.
It’s a retirement home, it’s only going to get redder.
Rampages are going to more fun than ever in GTA 6.
Never said he lost support cause of rally size. The original post was asking why this obsession over rally size.
The nerves are starting to kick in. The thought of trump winning is very scary.
Good thing it’s not a swing state. It was always going to be red and it’s getting even more republican leaning for the foreseeable future.
Same. I really should have taken time off to go do something fun to take my mind off of all this.
Let’s hope that a miracle happens in FL, and he loses there. No party.
But that’s a low probability event.
@Raoul they definitely randomize candidate positions in California per ballot. I had RFK listed first and Trump on first page with Harris last and have to click More to show her name.
Fair point. It’s going to be the last day of fun especially if he wins.
Madness. They brainwashed all them seniors over there. Miami needs to step up. The thing is I don't understand how immigrants are still voting for this man. Makes no sense. The women also. He hates every one of them.
I'm currently on a train to Chinatown. Hopefully it helps.
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