Same. Feels like a major historical flashpoint. Prospects in terms of Ukraine and climate change alone look far bleaker under a second Trump presidency.
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Same. Feels like a major historical flashpoint. Prospects in terms of Ukraine and climate change alone look far bleaker under a second Trump presidency.
Again people are underestimating the stupidity of American people. You have to realize most of his supporters don’t watch the news or follow the media. Their only source of info is his rally. So they live and die by his words. What can you say to people like that? Can you reason with them?
You can't. It's just pure ignorance. Imagine a leader with elon musk whispering in one ear and putin in the other. What could possibly go wrong?
Reps > 50% in 20/22.
It's almost like a vote early is the same as a vote on EDay. Those dumbfecks look at that 40k lead and wanked themselves silly.
nervous as well and don't live in the States
the thought of Trump winning here is kinda terrifying
Good to know. I thought it was in alphabetical order on mine, which also made sense.
That's the issue, plus we don't need 100% of polls to suck to lose confidence in them. If only 20 to 30% are crap, that's more than enough to contaminate aggregate polling and most of the models anyone could build around them. Which leaves some of us trusting the handful of polls that have been working well in the past, others looking at aggregates, others looking at reactions in airports, and such. No one knows anything and everyone's confidence depends on some degree of wishful thinking.
votify has Harris at 58% and polymarkets has Trump at 63%, both with deep liquidity so a really nice arb opportunity
If trump wins then Europe is screwed and that only have us to blame
There just are not that many of your uncle out there to make up the difference needed to bridge the gap of those who are migrating from Trump.
Just because they are loud doesn't mean they are voluminous to the level needed to win.
He has done 14 in NC since August. People are getting bored of seeing him drone on, so don't want to go again. Especially when he makes them wait for hours.
You are right though, the a will still vote for him.
It is quite hilarious though that he tells his supporters at the rally that the arena is full, when there a many empty seats, in some cases empty blocks of seats....
That has to make those at the rally question him a little.
Also had a reporter and cameraperson from KCAL 9 at my polling spot but they were only talking to people on the way out and when I was walking out they were already in their van. Shame as I would have liked to talk to them.
Going on X gives me a brain itch. So much vitriolic shite on there. A cesspool if I ever saw one.
Could you be a little more specific? Seems that this could mean anything, from an exit poll to a chatty dude in the office.
Even if Kamala wins, anything less than a landslide will still feel like a loss in a way. Then again, I'm trying to keep into account she s not a candidate who was able to run without her own baggage by affiliation alone.
Glad I don't have the day off though - I'd go nuts following election news all day long.
Glad I don't have the day off though - I'd go nuts following election news all day long.
I just found the reaction interesting is all.
Agree with @RDCR07 here. I know many people in this same boat and have made the point before in this thread, only to be told these people must be dumb.
They are die hard Republicans, know that Trump is a fool, but trust a Republican House / Senate to provide them with fiscal benefits.
Many people in this thread, especially those outside of the US, don't seem to understand that getting people to shift parties, in some cases, may be a harder task than getting them to switch the football team they support.
We saw in the Mason Greenwood thread people make all kind of excuses for him, which would certainly not been afforded to him had he played for a rival club. Is that really that much different to the excuses Republicans make for Trump?
just backed Kamala at 2.7 on polymarkets, she's 2.5 in most bookies so it's a good discount
as it's a crypto betting platform the odds seem to skew heavily towards Trump
bit of a faff though as you need to deposit in USDC on matic network
as it's a crypto betting platform the odds seem to skew heavily towards Trump
bit of a faff though as you need to deposit in USDC on matic network
Anyone with any self respect won't want to be associated with the majority of people who are voting for trump. Most of them have the mental capacity of an imbecile but they all think they're somehow smarter than everyone else.
Disagree. 270 to 268 would do just fine.
No it wouldn’t. Given where the dems were in Aug, in basically 2-3 months, how far they were behind Trump and the way they have campaigned and got their message across is nothing short of incredible. So even if she wins with 270 on the dot it’s been an incredible campaign and comeback.
Dunno mate. Optically seems more male dominated. Maybe I am just becoming paranoid
I saw several tweets that had a good mix of both. Suppose it depends on the location and angle of the crowd shot. I wouldn't worry about that as some sort of harbinger of results either way.
History repeats itself first as tragedy - then as farce.
Thing is - I would argue Trump 2016 was extremely farcical on all sorts of levels.
So, if he wins this one? What will it be? Meta-farce? Or meta-tragedy?
Thing is - I would argue Trump 2016 was extremely farcical on all sorts of levels.
So, if he wins this one? What will it be? Meta-farce? Or meta-tragedy?
An American tragedy and confirmation that America is done.
Please America, not Trump again. I just want to go the next 4 years without having to see or hear his name. It's time we all moved on.
Trump losing Florida would be one of the biggest surprises in American history IMO. @calodo2003 I'd say 75% of the randoms I have been paired with in Florida are trump lovers.
It's Twitter and always will be Twitter.
Yeah no biggie. I know a few republicans whose immediate reaction was “this could be good for us!” which is psychotic
My theory on Polymarket is that 99% of the punters on there are crypto bros that consume almost exclusively libertarian pro-Trump media and that’s given them overconfidence in a Trump victory.
He needs to go to jail.
Yeah.
I like the idea that Trumpism actually - bizarrely, illogically - goes against the very idea of "America" as it should be.
Been to Atlanta several times. It's comfortably more blue than the rest of the state..
I can't think of one single positive outcome in the event Trump wins. Our economic outlook is bleak right now, tax cuts will NOT fix it....Even lifelong republican extremists are aware of that. There were a few positives that derived from his last win, but those don't exist now... One acquaintance. said to me "Yeah but he'll probably end the war in Ukraine" and I had to point out that might be an escalation towards a global conflict given trump would effectively turn a blind eye to Putin.
He is unhinged beyond belief. I can totally understand voting republican, but all the gains they usually get won't happen in the next 4 years, it's not even fiscally possible. The one guaranteed outcome is that the billionaires get richer, and have more control than ever. That's not a good thing.
He is unhinged beyond belief. I can totally understand voting republican, but all the gains they usually get won't happen in the next 4 years, it's not even fiscally possible. The one guaranteed outcome is that the billionaires get richer, and have more control than ever. That's not a good thing.
If he does win, the hope is the house at least stays Dem controlled which would keep some degree of checks and balances on his predictable silliness.
Absolutely will not happen. One of the reasons we are in this mess was the pardoning of Nixon.
I saw the reaction as indicative of the feeling towards the man. Perhaps that airport was the perfect place to analyze that on that day. People weren't that bothered, more concerned about getting to their destination, which is really the way most people view politics anyway.
It is all good as long as Dems show up. Otherwise, not much point of those %s as Republicans are still leading numbers wise?
he can't win
When he won in 2016, the commentary from the rest of the world was that they expected doom and gloom across the globe, and that was never likely to be the case. But in his 2nd term, I think it's fairly probable that the rest of the world will suffer drastic consequences. That's not hyperbole, This is a president coming in after arguably the countries best ever and the country being in a good state of repair, versus a convicted felon with the worlds biggest chip on his shoulder and the globes finances in a mess thanks to viruses and wars. make no mistake, all the scaremongering from 2016 with regards to a trump win is way more likely now.
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