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DavelinaJolie said:
Zombie invasion. Election is off.
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Finally I don't have to wait for the sequel to World War Z any longer
Eriku said:
6 votes counted, it’s a tie right now.
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3-3 get in!
WPMUFC said:
no clue. What everyone is talking about is whether the polling is too heavily skewed to try and correct for the "shy trump voter" again or whether this is truly coming down to...like 100 votes on a PA recount.

If the polling is fecked, Harris should absolutely trounce him. If the polling is finally correct, it's going to be a shit storm that makes 2020 look like child play.

The only certainty is Trump is going to say he won as soon as he can and then demand the counting stop again.
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Thanks bud. Seems like the only certain outcome is going to be chaos, either way. Trump will declare victory and a shitshow will follow.
InfiniteBoredom said:
Coin flip between Big Mac for 4 years and diarrhea forever.
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Big Mac, surely?
Mike Smalling said:
Nobody really knows. It's all guesswork based on polling, early voting, and what the campaigns are doing and saying. But I do think there is a general consensus that this goes one of three ways in terms of the electoral college. Narrow Trump win, narrow Harris win, or large Harris win.
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Damn, must have Americans fairly anxious waiting on the outcome of all this. Thanks Mike.
 
Eriku said:
They also pride themselves on having thick skin and being edgy, no? Pretty sure a solid number of ‘em will buy into the woke mind virus nonsense.
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Yes, it's a perfect storm. Cognitive damage due to lead pollution, formative years in hyper capitalistic 'greed is good' 80s, super transphobic/homophobic/racist with the Reagan AIDS epidemic and welfare queen scaremongering, breaking down of strong union working class value.

Boomers get a relatively bad rep. They went for Trump in 16 but have largely broken even or favoured Democratic candidates, same goes for Silent Generation. It's only that one age group that is problematic.
 
The general positivity in here and some of the commentariat still can't shake the feeling that Trump will win. Hope it is just my usual pessimism.
 
diarm said:
Hoping to wake up Wednesday morning to hear Trump has won. I’m not his biggest fan, far from it, but I just think Harris is a devious witch with ideas above her station.

I’m not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women and being close friends with rapists, but then she didn’t set herself apart enough from Biden during that 60 minutes interview so it’s all swings and roundabouts really.

In an ideal world, I’d be able to vote for a Republican candidate who had shared some articulate policies, rather than a campaign run on soundbites of divisive and hate fuelled rhetoric, but he’s going to make China pay tariffs for American businesses while she’s tanked the economy so what choice do I have?
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Want to clarify why she has ideas above her station, what is her station? bearing in mind she is a woman and of mixed race I dread to think where this opinion is coming from!

Not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women? what that he does it and would like to get away with it?

How anyone can contemplate wanting Trump to win is simply beyond my comprehension, but hey good luck America if you want to be the laughing stock of the rest of the work for re-voting in an evil, bigoted, idiotic, criminal, racist, sexist, umpalumpa! I just hope the rest of the world gets to survive the decision
 
Zed 101 said:
Want to clarify why she has ideas above her station, what is her station? bearing in mind she is a woman and of mixed race I dread to think where this opinion is coming from!

Not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women? what that he does it and would like to get away with it?

How anyone can contemplate wanting Trump to win is simply beyond my comprehension, but hey good luck America if you want to be the laughing stock of the rest of the work for re-voting in an evil, bigoted, idiotic, criminal, racist, sexist, umpalumpa! I just hope the rest of the world gets to survive the decision
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It was a parody post mate.
 
A couple of weeks ago, Trump looked like a dead cert but they shot themselves in the foot with the Nazi convention.

Hopefully Kamala pulls through and its curtains on Trump and I hope I never hear his name again.
 
Suv666 said:
A couple of weeks ago, Trump looked like a dead cert but they shot themselves in the foot with the Nazi convention.

Hopefully Kamala pulls through and its curtains on Trump and I hope I never hear his name again.
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Even then, the word was that he only looked strong favourite due to a wave of poor quality polls that were designed to make it look like he was winning, to help them claim the election was stolen.
 
Suv666 said:
A couple of weeks ago, Trump looked like a dead cert but they shot themselves in the foot with the Nazi convention.

Hopefully Kamala pulls through and its curtains on Trump and I hope I never hear his name again.
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Or see his face again
 
Suv666 said:
A couple of weeks ago, Trump looked like a dead cert but they shot themselves in the foot with the Nazi convention.

Hopefully Kamala pulls through and its curtains on Trump and I hope I never hear his name again.
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Let's see what happens, but if Harris wins, I think it could go down as one of the biggest political own goals in history.
 
RUUD_10_LEGEND said:
Even then, the word was that he only looked strong favourite due to a wave of poor quality polls that were designed to make it look like he was winning, to help them claim the election was stolen.
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Yep.

I saw there's some shite pollster who is claiming to have polled like 8 thousand people in a few hours for their latest results. They don't have the money or the time or the staff to be able to do something like that and have it be reliable. It's nonsense.
 
Shinjch said:
The general positivity in here and some of the commentariat still can't shake the feeling that Trump will win. Hope it is just my usual pessimism.
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Same,from the outside it feels like the cnut will win it. Really hope I'm wrong. And it could happen. I know feck all.
 
Suv666 said:
A couple of weeks ago, Trump looked like a dead cert but they shot themselves in the foot with the Nazi convention.

Hopefully Kamala pulls through and its curtains on Trump and I hope I never hear his name again.
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I don't think anything much changed since the debate, Harris was always ahead imo, not just the last week.

Polls swinging one point here happens, and doesn't mean much.
 
I'm pretty confident of a Kamala win also, but I'm also very aware that I get most of my info from liberal leaning places, so I'm sure I'd be equally as confident in a Trump win if I'd been getting my info from conservative sources. I genuinely think it's too close to call.
 
Morty_ said:
I don't think anything much changed since the debate, Harris was always ahead imo, not just the last week.

Polls swinging one point here happens, and doesn't mean much.
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Two things can be true at the same time, that she's been slightly ahead since the debate and the 5% slice of late deciding independents are breaking to her. Beyond just the MSG Puerto Rican thing, nobody can say Trump has had a good last 10 days, he was unraveling before our eyes and constantly in the news in a negative way.
 
Morty_ said:
I don't think anything much changed since the debate, Harris was always ahead imo, not just the last week.

Polls swinging one point here happens, and doesn't mean much.
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The polls have arguably kept Trump in the race and not torpedoed his chances.

It’s been, imo, kept artificially close to ensure that the grift keeps going until the end for the news media, pollsters and the Republican shit polls.
 
diarm said:
Ah lads. The 2am fellas who’ve been smashing keyboard in horror for 12 hours straight I can understand, but it’s 9 o’clock in the morning and ye just woke up.
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Hahahaha. It’s relentless. Back and forth jabbawonga

Ultimately. Nobody has a clue how it’s going to play out. Just let time do its thing.

And tomorrow morning when we wake up and it’s all been confirmed (hopefully) we can then shout abuse at the opposite side
 
Trumps low energy and defeated looking attitude might even result in him conceding the election gracefully if he loses.

Or is that a naive thought?
 
VorZakone said:
Trumps low energy and defeated looking attitude might even result in him conceding the election gracefully if he loses.

Or is that a naive thought?
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I would say it is naive. It's not in his nature to admit defeat. His way of admitting defeat would be to not encourage insurrection and not run a whole lot of lawsuits.
 
Morty_ said:
I don't think anything much changed since the debate, Harris was always ahead imo, not just the last week.

Polls swinging one point here happens, and doesn't mean much.
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The discourse online was all doom and gloom before.

The Iowa poll and the nazi convention has injected some optimism.

This is definitely too close for comfort though
 
VorZakone said:
Trumps low energy and defeated looking attitude might even result in him conceding the election gracefully if he loses.

Or is that a naive thought?
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He's been going into "voter fraud" mode again the last week and a bit. In the event, I don't see him gracefully stepping aside.
 
4bars said:
They unleashed all the nastiness now when they needed to be measured as like you said everybody was watching and deciding last minute who to vote or if going to vote because they were not energized. They energized the anti trumpism that voted Biden as POTUS
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Agree. It tells people, if he can't be disciplined in the last stage of his campaign, then what will he be like when President?
 
Insanity said:
No, then he wouldn't be Trump. A large section of the people like him because he is this gormless fecktard who does and says what he wants. They somehow find that feckwittery authentic, original and charming. If he did what every run of the mill politician does then he wouldn't be half as popular amongst the rubes.
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Very True. But in the last 10 days, he needed to keep on message. Those at his rallies are voting for him regardless. They wouldn't go home and not vote, just because he didn't happen to ask for someone to be shot at today.
 
VorZakone said:
Trumps low energy and defeated looking attitude might even result in him conceding the election gracefully if he loses.

Or is that a naive thought?
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Absolutely zero chance of him ever conceding.

Harris could win in an absolute landslide and he wouldn't concede. His ego was severely bruised when he lost to Biden, losing to a mixed race woman will be far too much for him to ever accept.
 
I think there would be too much of a logic leap for me to be done in order to properly process/rationalize anything other than a Harris win today. It would just mean a lot of things that I think are true in political analysis are actually false, like:

-Abortion/Roe vs. Wade being a strong voting issue.
-Incumbency plus good (enough) economy combo historically being a factor.
-To finish a campaign strongly is better than to finish it poorly and/or starting to fall apart.
-High turnout historically favoring dems.

And nevertheless, even when most/all signs point to a logical conclusion, there's this unsettling, PTSD based feeling underneath that we can't have good things and everything's going to sht anyway. Hopefully tonight (or tomorrow) I'll be happily analyzing trends and consequences with the certainty of a positive result and not questioning the very fabric of logic, rationality and my overall sanity.
 
VorZakone said:
Trumps low energy and defeated looking attitude might even result in him conceding the election gracefully if he loses.

Or is that a naive thought?
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HAHAHA! my worry is that he and his camp have been watching Civil War (2024) and thinking you know what.... (sorry I used thinking like it is something available to them, I am not really sure of the verb for their equivalent of thought)
 
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