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Hoping to wake up Wednesday morning to hear Trump has won. I’m not his biggest fan, far from it, but I just think Harris is a devious witch with ideas above her station.

I’m not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women and being close friends with rapists, but then she didn’t set herself apart enough from Biden during that 60 minutes interview so it’s all swings and roundabouts really.

In an ideal world, I’d be able to vote for a Republican candidate who had shared some articulate policies, rather than a campaign run on soundbites of divisive and hate fuelled rhetoric, but he’s going to make China pay tariffs for American businesses while she’s tanked the economy so what choice do I have?
Hilarious stuff. He’s a sexual predator and close friends with a serial sexual predator but she’s a DEVIOUS WITCH due to an interview she didn’t stand out in.
 
Ah lads. The 2am fellas who’ve been smashing keyboard in horror for 12 hours straight I can understand, but it’s 9 o’clock in the morning and ye just woke up.
 
Hilarious stuff. He’s a sexual predator and close friends with a serial sexual predator but she’s a DEVIOUS WITCH due to an interview she didn’t stand out in.
Not funny at all! The most powerful country on earth is about to elect the best friend of Epstein and you lot are laughing.


I know the original was sarcastic. So is this.
 
Ah lads. The 2am fellas who’ve been smashing keyboard in horror for 12 hours straight I can understand, but it’s 9 o’clock in the morning and ye just woke up.
You should’ve doubled down, could’ve been the most successful fisherman in Caf’s history.
 
You should’ve doubled down, could’ve been the most successful fisherman in Caf’s history.

When I wrote it I wasn’t even fishing. I honestly thought I was being ridiculous enough to put a few of the earlier posts into some perspective.
 
When I wrote it I wasn’t even fishing. I honestly thought I was being ridiculous enough to put a few of the earlier posts into some perspective.
Anyone with a bit of knowledge about RedCafe classics, would have caught on after the "not his biggest fan, far from it".
 
That pollsters are terrified of underestimating Trump a 3rd time, so have skewed polls more to his favor this time around, especially through recall vote weighting (weighting based on who you voted for last election).
TY.

Atlas Intel dropped its last poll. Trump plus 1 nationally. This pollster got the Bolsanaro/Lula race pretty well (others had Lula way more ahead than the end result).

Other side, there are Harris plus 1 and plus 2 polls from ipsos.

Just for those who are not f5ing various polling websites, 538 has it at 50-49 for Trump. This has come in from 53-46 (Trump).

Long 24hrs ahead.
 
Ah lads. The 2am fellas who’ve been smashing keyboard in horror for 12 hours straight I can understand, but it’s 9 o’clock in the morning and ye just woke up.
The first two paras were obvious satire. The third one just seems like a standard rubbish statement from a hardcore Trumper.

Benefit of the doubt was to satire, but if you told me the whole thing was serious, it wouldn't shock me.
 
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They changed it!
 
TY.

Atlas Intel dropped its last poll. Trump plus 1 nationally. This pollster got the Bolsanaro/Lula race pretty well (others had Lula way more ahead than the end result).

Other side, there are Harris plus 1 and plus 2 polls from ipsos.

Just for those who are not f5ing various polling websites, 538 has it at 50-49 for Trump. This has come in from 53-46 (Trump).

Long 24hrs ahead.

Isn't this the 500th Atlas poll in the last 5 days?
 
Isn't this the 500th Atlas poll in the last 5 days?
Yep, but that's what they all do.

There's an interesting scenario here where Trump wins the popular vote for the first time and loses the electoral college. Unlikely but more likely than it has been in the past two elections.
 
Yep, but that's what they all do.

There's an interesting scenario here where Trump wins the popular vote for the first time and loses the electoral college. Unlikely but more likely than it has been in the past two elections.
There is no plausible scenario where Trump wins the popular vote but not the electoral college. You might as well bet on a meteor hitting the US and the election being cancelled.
 
What's the tl;dr version of election results thus far for those of us who's not too clued up around US politics....who's in the lead?

no clue. What everyone is talking about is whether the polling is too heavily skewed to try and correct for the "shy trump voter" again or whether this is truly coming down to...like 100 votes on a PA recount.

If the polling is fecked, Harris should absolutely trounce him. If the polling is finally correct, it's going to be a shit storm that makes 2020 look like child play.

The only certainty is Trump is going to say he won as soon as he can and then demand the counting stop again.
 
What's the tl;dr version of election results thus far for those of us who's not too clued up around US politics....who's in the lead?
Nobody really knows. It's all guesswork based on polling, early voting, and what the campaigns are doing and saying. But I do think there is a general consensus that this goes one of three ways in terms of the electoral college. Narrow Trump win, narrow Harris win, or large Harris win.
 
When I wrote it I wasn’t even fishing. I honestly thought I was being ridiculous enough to put a few of the earlier posts into some perspective.

If you hadn’t put in the “not his biggest fan, far from it” which is a dead giveaway on here, I would say the rest of your post is just about believable enough to align with some of the other pro trump posts :lol:
 
Yep, but that's what they all do.

There's an interesting scenario here where Trump wins the popular vote for the first time and loses the electoral college. Unlikely but more likely than it has been in the past two elections.

Zero chance of this happening.
 
When I wrote it I wasn’t even fishing. I honestly thought I was being ridiculous enough to put a few of the earlier posts into some perspective.
Reality just about killed satire. The Onion is struggling to keep up.
 
TY.

Atlas Intel dropped its last poll. Trump plus 1 nationally. This pollster got the Bolsanaro/Lula race pretty well (others had Lula way more ahead than the end result).

Other side, there are Harris plus 1 and plus 2 polls from ipsos.

Just for those who are not f5ing various polling websites, 538 has it at 50-49 for Trump. This has come in from 53-46 (Trump).

Long 24hrs ahead.
538 has it at 50-49 for Harris now whatever the significance of that is.
 
There is no plausible scenario where Trump wins the popular vote but not the electoral college. You might as well bet on a meteor hitting the US and the election being cancelled.
If he were ahead in the national polls but this did not translate into Electoral College wins, then you would get that exact scenario. I never said it was likely. Only possible.
 
538 has it at 50-49 for Harris now whatever the significance of that is.
Flipped from 53/54 on aggregate of polls in very slight favour of Trump. It is significant if CR is correct and they have adjusted their polls to cope with two electoral cycles (presidential) where/when the polls have had Trump anywhere from 3-8% off his actual performance.
 
Old people have always died and been replaced with a younger? Really? :smirk:

The boomer age range is currently 60-78. More and more of this generation are dying off each 4 year election cycle, so this will hurt Trump more now that previously - as well as Republican in the future. As mentioned previously, this generation favoured Republicans, largely because the US had Republican presidents for much of the boomers prime years - 70s, 80s and into the early 90s.

I agree - the older generation are a far more reliable voting block than the youth. But my point was that those who are reaching around 55 today, Gen X (who are replacing the boomers as the most likely to vote) would have come of "Political age" around the good times of Clinton and will very much remember being taken into wars and recessions by the Bush's. That makes Gen X more likley to vote Dem than the boomers were previously.

Most people just assume that one you get to a certain age, the voting block becomes more conservative, but that changes over time, depending on long held views. We know that the vast majority of people don't switch affiliation.
I think his point is very valid. 20mil boomers replaced with 40mil Gen Z. To which party those age groups lean, it undeniable...
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Yes, as you say, they are harder to turn out, but replacing 20mil boomers with 40mil Gen Z gives the Democrats a massive potential advantage, in this election and going forward.

Agree re naturalized citizens. Although, we may see in this election more more Hispanics vote Republican then in previous years. Hispanic adults made up 34% of immigrant eligible voters.

A lot of the demographics are favoring Democrats, perhaps enough soon that we will see more policy changes from the GOP to capture them.
It is possible a part of the aging gen X population will switch to voting Republican. Why? Because of financial calculations.

Tax breaks are perceived to be good for retirement plans, the stock market. A misguided notion, because Republicans tend to plunge the country into recessions.

I hope I’m wrong and people of my generation realize this, as well as the danger of cuts to social security.
 
It is possible a part of the aging gen X population will switch to voting Republican. Why? Because of financial calculations.

Tax breaks are perceived to be good for retirement plans, the stock market. A misguided notion, because Republicans tend to plunge the country into recessions.

I hope I’m wrong and people of my generation realize this, as well as the danger of cuts to social security.
Gen X are already the biggest Trumpkins

Strong correlation between level of lead pollution and Trump vote share between age groups *shrugs*
 


The only thing that terrifies me, say the dem number crunchers are right and late deciders are breaking heavy for Harris. No one is taking into account what Trump may try to do to stop the counting and throw it to the courts. Harris could be in a good position, but these damn voting and counting sites basically need the national guard protecting them and i hope to god that Harris has bought the best lawyers in the country. Everyone thinks/hopes this is "just going to be normal". Trump is going to prison if he loses, he's the most dangerous version of himself right at this moment.
 
The only thing that terrifies me, say the dem number crunchers are right and late deciders are breaking heavy for Harris. No one is taking into account what Trump may try to do to stop the counting and throw it to the courts. Harris could be in a good position, but these damn voting and counting sites basically need the national guard protecting them and i hope to god that Harris has bought the best lawyers in the country. Everyone thinks/hopes this is "just going to be normal". Trump is going to prison if he loses, he's the most dangerous version of himself right at this moment.
He won’t stop it and if the Supreme Court has shown anything on this, it will reject his claims. At the end of the day, the Supreme Court justices already have their tenure …. They can’t be removed so his position is irrelevant to them.
 
Gen X are already the biggest Trumpkins

Strong correlation between level of lead pollution and Trump vote share between age groups *shrugs*

They also pride themselves on having thick skin and being edgy, no? Pretty sure a solid number of ‘em will buy into the woke mind virus nonsense.
 
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