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That NBC firing really broke her.

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Hot takes: Dems are still better than Labour, because they at least win elections.

Just imagine how the US would look like now if the Republicans have enjoyed 16 straigh years in power like the Tories did.

Could be better. When you dont have a election to win, you'd put it aside and maybe focus on work more

And it goes both ways. If Dems wins 16 on a trot they wont care about rainbows and unicorns
 
It's a racist backlash against the first black president in a nation that is still dealing with the legacy of chattel slavery, that and Hillary Clinton being a bad candidate.
The effect or legacy of ‘liberalism’ should be added to that.

The Arab Spring didn't happen in a vacuum, it's a direct product of the regional instability brought about by Afghanistan/Iraq and the rise in extremism funded by the Saudis.
Agreed, but what did the Democrats do? Not only that but look at what the Obama administration did in Libya.

America’s reputation, abroad at least, was pretty much in the gutter before Trump took over.
Only obvious for someone who has never studied Chinese history,
We’re back to ‘internal’ migration then.

but that's a given since you don't seem to need to know much about any topic before jumping in with your hot takes, like the defence of the Electoral College.
The electoral college has existed for centuries now, and there’s clearly a reason and utility for its existence. Whether one agrees with it or not is another thing. You do know that people can argue a position without having some personal passion or belief in it, right?

You'd have more respect if you own it instead of trying to pass it off as irony.
Yeah next time someone posts about the merits of abortion as a significant crime lowering measure…we should all just hop along the RedCafe dystopian bus ride. A Brave New World awaits.

It's too easy.
Being permanently camped out in this thread isn’t doing you any good mate.
 
Waking up early Wednesday morning to follow the election. I'm hoping to see a Trump victory. It's going to be a crazy race.
 
Hoping for Trump to win, but if Kamala wins - don't care that much. Neither winning is going to change anything that much. What is going to change is how people "feel" about the future under the president they didn't want. Trump is Epstein's buddy - just like Billy Clinton was, while Kamala spent quality time with 60 year old dude (while under 30) because she was in love or maybe because she wanted to offer her services to advance her career. Wonderful times ahead!
 

The GOP reasons seem the weaker of the two. The question for me is how sizeable is the group who will secretly vote for Trump, the group the polls aren’t capturing in other words?
 
Hoping for Trump to win, but if Kamala wins - don't care that much. Neither winning is going to change anything that much. What is going to change is how people "feel" about the future under the president they didn't want. Trump is Epstein's buddy - just like Billy Clinton was, while Kamala spent quality time with 60 year old dude (while under 30) because she was in love or maybe because she wanted to offer her services to advance her career. Wonderful times ahead!
Just to be clear, you are equating two adults have a consensual relationship with having sex with minors. Interesting take.
 
Hoping for Trump to win, but if Kamala wins - don't care that much. Neither winning is going to change anything that much. What is going to change is how people "feel" about the future under the president they didn't want. Trump is Epstein's buddy - just like Billy Clinton was, while Kamala spent quality time with 60 year old dude (while under 30) because she was in love or maybe because she wanted to offer her services to advance her career. Wonderful times ahead!

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That NBC firing really broke her.

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I just watched her on Bill Mahar from the episode 10 days ago; no sign of rational thinking there at all sadly, particularly when she and Mahar started hyping each other up over trans issues.

Her at a Trump rally is no surprise.
 
Should be an easy win for Trump, all those “49-51” polls mean nothing. Kamala is the poor man’s Hillary, no idea why would anyone vote for her (aside for the tiresome “she’s not Trump” argument). Hopefully I’m right.
 
The GOP reasons seem the weaker of the two. The question for me is how sizeable is the group who will secretly vote for Trump, the group the polls aren’t capturing in other words?
Quite sizable imo. Are the polls capturing anyone without a landline phone? I feel the polls are way off.
 
Just to be clear, you are equating two adults have a consensual relationship with having sex with minors. Interesting take.

There is clear evidence of Kamala advancing her career through offering services to elderly. There is no proof for the other. Now I am not going to say that allegations are baseless. They are serious. Who ever hung out with Epstein is a serious suspect. Bill Clinton, Billy Gates, Donald Trump etc...
 
There is clear evidence of Kamala advancing her career through offering services to elderly. There is no proof for the other. Now I am not going to say that allegations are baseless. They are serious. Who ever hung out with Epstein is a serious suspect. Bill Clinton, Billy Gates, Donald Trump etc...
Any thoughts on Trump cheating on all of his wives? Paying off a pornstar? Being found civilly liable for sexual abuse? Or are you mostly focused on who Harris slept with 30 years ago?
 
Quite sizable imo. Are the polls capturing anyone without a landline phone? I feel the polls are way off.
I’ve no idea. I’m not familiar with how the American polling companies conduct their polls. I tend to place more emphasis on anonymous polling as it removes the influence of human interaction.

The Brexit polling back in the day was a great example of that, as the anonymous polling efforts were much more aligned with the actual result.
 
Hoping to wake up Wednesday morning to hear Trump has won. I’m not his biggest fan, far from it, but I just think Harris is a devious witch with ideas above her station.

I’m not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women and being close friends with rapists, but then she didn’t set herself apart enough from Biden during that 60 minutes interview so it’s all swings and roundabouts really.

In an ideal world, I’d be able to vote for a Republican candidate who had shared some articulate policies, rather than a campaign run on soundbites of divisive and hate fuelled rhetoric, but he’s going to make China pay tariffs for American businesses while she’s tanked the economy so what choice do I have?
 
If you want to discuss further, yes, I'm happy to reply in DM, although I cant guarantee about the timeliness since next couple of days my attention is on the election.

I will just add that I'm not Chinese so my knowledge doesn't come from CCP-approved textbook or Baidu. My sources are primarily historical record like Sima Qian, Book of Later Han, Book of Jin/Tang, Records of the 3 Kingdoms etc.

I believe a mod has already moved this discussion to the relevant thread!
 
Agreed. But one can never be 100% sure of these things. Probably a bit of residual 2016 PTSD at play here.

2016 will scar people for generations to come so yeah you can never be totally confident.

I just think this last week something has broken through, for a variety of reasons, and I think she's going to do it. Trump and the GOP have made a total fecking arse of the last 2 weeks of the campaign, if they'd just locked Trump in his bedroom for the last 2 weeks they'd be in better shape.

In 2016 at this point there were already signs that things were going horribly wrong for Clinton. In 2024 it's been much more positive for Harris. Fingers crossed still though.
 
Someone dares to go against the tide here, explaining to us their sincerely held reasoning, and they just get laughed out of the echo chamber.

A moment to reflect upon perhaps.
The guy said “she is less coherent when asked questions” compared to a guy who just gave a microphone a blowjob.
 
Hoping to wake up Wednesday morning to hear Trump has won. I’m not his biggest fan, far from it, but I just think Harris is a devious witch with ideas above her station.

I’m not the biggest fan of his stance on sexually abusing women and being close friends with rapists, but then she didn’t set herself apart enough from Biden during that 60 minutes interview so it’s all swings and roundabouts really.

In an ideal world, I’d be able to vote for a Republican candidate who had shared some articulate policies, rather than a campaign run on soundbites of divisive and hate fuelled rhetoric, but he’s going to make China pay tariffs for American businesses while she’s tanked the economy so what choice do I have?
That bold part is all I need to know about you.
 
What does liberalism have to do with white working class genXers with their brain broken by lead voting for a con man?
Liberalism has had significant and far reaching cultural, social and economic effects, just like every other value system before it and its genesis seems to be commonly accepted as being the 1960s. It’s just part of the fabric of life so trying to isolate genXers or any other group from the soup in which they exist is hard to do.

And it fell even further during his term in charge. You won't get a defense of American foreign policy out of me, but it's just straight up disingenuous to pretend that Republicans are meaningfully better when they are empirically worse. Vietnam, Iran-Contra, Gulf War, Afghan/Iraq, all of the big foreign bungles in the past 50 years were started by Republican administrations, and helped along the way by Democratic ones, sometimes passively, sometimes enthusiastically.
I’m not arguing that Republicans are better. I’m just challenging the assumptions many have that Democrats are somehow axiomatically good.


You really shouldn't embarrass yourself any further. Half the population of the Eurasian steppes swarmed Northern China over centuries, there's nothing fecking 'internal' about it.
You’re having a laugh.

Yes, and the reason and utility for its existence died with the abolition of slavery. Its continued existence since is an affront to representative democracy and has lead to the subversion of the popular will and dire consequences for the system itself when people get increasingly alienated as 'their votes don't matter'.
I wonder would you still subscribe to that if the tables were turned.

It's an observable added benefits of reproductive rights.
The removal of ‘undesirables’ from the population?

You know what's actual eugenics? The kind of forced sterilisation of poor people that happened before Roe.
Ah yes back before Roe…when ‘progressives’ had great affinity for population control and fuelled the eugenics movement in the States. Great bunch of lads!

If United is playing any better, I won't have to.
True. :lol:
 
Why isnt New Hampshire so democrat strong as the rest of New England?
NH is full of rednecks, I live right next to it. Loads of Trump signs too.

Lots of guns and motorcycles. You can ride them without a helmet on the highway if you are suicidal enough.

State motto: Live free or die.
 
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