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I dislike the talk of Harris gaining momentum towards Election Day. Psychologically, I prefer her to remain the underdog like these betting markets had her for so long and she win on Election Day.
That fecking pictureABC gotta be trolling.
Unless of course Trump winds up doing the jerk off dance to the Village People late on Tuesday night.
There's definitely something up in North Carolina. Trump must've seen some scary internals to make several last minute stops there only a couple of days before the election.
Isn't it also pretty much a certainty that it will take historical levels of split ballots for Trump to take North Carolina? The Republicans also have a historically bad candidate for Governor, of course, but it still might make a difference.
If there is a momentum, it’s very small (again, unless Selzer is on point) but still a nice change from the slow slide towards Trump we’ve seen the past few weeks.
Yeah the Guardian have reported today that his campaign are nervous about it.
That's probably at the heart of the matter for Trump. Stein is beating Robinson by (depending on the poll) anywhere from 9 to 15 points, which would make it fertile ground for Harris to benefit and possibly take NC. That won't be lost on Trump, who has made several last minute stops there. Of course, if he loses the blue wall, it won't really matter in the end.
Hmmm....Reminds me of Succession. I think Donny is Logan Roy (just 100x worse).
Jr. is Kendall Roy
Eric is Roman Roy (with the wit)
Ivanka is Shiv
Jared is probably combination of Greg and Tom
Well, you could argue that an EC landslide will make it more difficult for the Republicans to spin a story and try some shenanigans to circumvent the election results.
Steve Bannon has suggested Trump should declare victory on Tuesday evening irrespective of the results, so I don't think a big EC win for Harris would change that. Trump can't deal with the humiliation of losing, so the odds of him conceding the race if he loses are slim to none.
Sure, but declaring victory and having any hope at all to turn that into a succesful coup for the presidency is vanishingly small if Kamala has a landslide EC election.
270 vs 268 is coup territory, 350 - 188 is well beyond reach.
It's not about him conceding the race, it's about how far his stooges in Congress and the 6 pieces of turd in the SC are willing to go to help him.
An underreported story is in PA in 2020, the SC actually gave them an injunction to stop counting thousands of late mail ballots that needed curing or signature verification. Ultimately it didn't matter because Biden won the state by more than that, but in a hyper close election they would've done what W got in 2000. A clear EC win would deter them from pulling those dirty tricks.
That would have been my point. Trump will need more than Steve Bannon on board to orchestrate a coup - Republicans on all kinds of levels probably need to be involved.
NBC are now also reporting that the Trump campaign are concerned about North Carolina.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...lina-making-trump-campaign-nervous-rcna178523
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...lina-making-trump-campaign-nervous-rcna178523
Promising signs so far. The Selzer poll is good, but it's even better when we are seeing Trump's campaign spending a huge amount of time and resources in NC these last days plus the early claims on fraud and stealing in PA coming from them. It shows fear.
The impression I get is that Harris campaign did all the right things in these last weeks, while Trump's fumbled and slowly started to crack. Hopefully that's what we'll get to see starting tuesday night.
The impression I get is that Harris campaign did all the right things in these last weeks, while Trump's fumbled and slowly started to crack. Hopefully that's what we'll get to see starting tuesday night.
That’s true, but Biden got over 300 and that resulted in a litany of voter fraud allegations which culminated in an insurrection at the capital.
So even if Harris wins comfortably, that won’t stop Trump, who is literally running for President to avoid going to prison, from doing whatever he can to flip the results. I don’t think it would work, but he will try. Of course all of this is a moot point if he wins on Tuesday.
Other than making bombastic statements like this one, Bannon is irrelevant at this point. Ultimately, it’s Trump and a few in his inner circle that will decide how he responds.
He's looking well.
Would be wild if Harris loses PA but wins anyway by taking NC and GA.
Would be great if she wins WI, MI, and NC is called for her on Tuesday night, which would take some of the heat off relying exclusively on PA to win.
When did my ballsack run for president?He's looking well.
At least it's not the video of him going down on the mic. I need brain bleach after seeing that.That fecking picture
Do we know which are the swing/swingish (like IA) states most likely to be called early for either candidate? Considering number of votes, likeliness for either candidate to win and/or the state's rules about what/how/when should they start counting?
He's looking well.
The counting will take place all day long for early votes and later in the day for in person votes. The latter depends on which time zone a state is in and when they close their polling stations for the day.
Many states in the eastern time zone where Harris or Trump (mostly Harris) are expected to win easily, will get called by the networks shortly after polls close. Example: CNN calls states like MA, NY, NJ, DE, ME, RI, VA, NH, VT etc for Harris, and probably OH, WV, SC for Trump. From there, every subsequent hour will yield network calls for states in the next time zone to the left that are considered easy wins for either candidate.
The only states of interest are going to be the seven swings and now possibly Iowa, since a Harris win there would probably have a cascading effect across many other states.
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Wasn't Arizona one of the earliest swing states to be called last time? By Fox News no less.
I could rub my ballsack in marmalade and it wouldn’t look that orange.
CNN data shows early voting among those over 65 has increased significantly. I am not sure if this trend will broadly benefit Democrats.
It was called around midnight, which by east coast standards is pretty late in the evening. The reason people think it was called early is because Fox controversially called it early, which pretty much put a big stake in the heart to Trump’s path to 270.
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You’re right, it was all decorum and sophistication when we stuck to Trumps policies and political acumen.
I'd just like to fast forward to the bit where Kamala's president and Trump's in jail.
Yeah, that's definitely not dad dancing. I honestly can't remember ever seeing anyone with less rhythm than Trump. I mean that 100% sincerely too.
Trumps ambitions is a little more complicated, just not much. He is a racist at heart so immigration is a real issue for sure, but the things that drive him the most are his want to be loved and adored and not seen as a loser. He hates losing. The only thing he hates more than losing is people getting the better of him in any way, but especially making him look stupid or like a loser. For that reason his burning ambition is centred around revenge. Pure and simple revenge that stems from hatred that burns deep from losing or being mocked or called out in public.
As for the British TV and media, we've obviously been watching different channels or at different times as Sky, BBC and C4 News have all had lengthy panel debates, insider reporting from the campaigns, videos of voters in varying regions and states etc. I've also seen great coverage explaining the difference and importance of States and area like the Rust Belt, Sun Belt and also which states are called and why they are referred to as Bellwether states.
For the most part the UK press have also been calling Trump, Vance and the Republicans out for their lies and divisive rhetoric. Often followed by a US Politician or reporter explaining that those things don't seem to matter to many Americans, especially Trump supporters and voters.
For UK viewers it's looking like Channel 4 will yet again be the best Channel to watch, if not for the absolute feckery from some of the people they have got on. Boris Johnson v Professor Brian Cox could be hilarious.
Even though they are partnered with CNN for the election I will have C4 on the telly, CNN on the phone and Fox on my laptop in hope of epic meltdowns if Harris wins.
Here's the line up for Channel 4 on election night/morning for UK viewers.
Channel 4 – America Decides: US Presidential Election
Krishnan Guru-Murthy, Matt Frei, Emily Maitlis and Jeremy Vine will present Channel 4’s coverage from 10pm and they promise an undeniably impressive roster of guests.They include Boris Johnson, the former Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, Michael Gove, David Miliband, Democrat Carol Moseley Braun – the first African American woman elected to the US Senate – and Republicans John Bolton and Sean Spicer, Trump’s former White House press secretary.
There’s also – and why not? – Rufus Wainwright, Grayson Perry and Brian Cox.
Channel 4 is partnered with CNN meaning, it says, it will be “the definitive way to watch the US election in the UK”.
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It's normal around election time. It's not as bad as a few years ago when we have a burning bell end posted in all it's flaming phallic glory.
With the run up to the election taking 18 months or so, it's no surprise people go a bit stir crazy. Especially with all the informative polls and crazy twists and turns they provide. Then of course add in the betting markets and relentless and shameless pivoting it's guaranteed valuetainment all the way.
I've even heard some of the US posters are so superstitious they are worse than Hockey players reaching the play offs. They don't shave or change their lucky pants from the Primaries to the actual results being announced. Or maybe that's just an excuse they make? Who knows?
Good times!
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