2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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I have no idea what kind of reaction she'll have once trump admin folks tell her it's all fake.

There is a 100% chance that she'll take it as *nudge nudge wink wink*. People who believe in QAnon are all idiots, and to a much greater degree than even people who support Trump. It's physically impossible to believe in QAnon without being incredibly ignorant and gullible.
 
If any other Trump runs, it'd be Ivanka.
Have to disagree. Trump Jnr is basically on an accelerated path to running for office. No side likee ivanka, dems think she's feckless, reps think she's a snake. Trump world loves Don Jnr. He basically is a shoe in for his father.
 
Have to disagree. Trump Jnr is basically on an accelerated path to running for office. No side likee ivanka, dems think she's feckless, reps think she's a snake. Trump world loves Don Jnr. He basically is a shoe in for his father.

This. He’ll fail miserably though.
 
Have to disagree. Trump Jnr is basically on an accelerated path to running for office. No side likee ivanka, dems think she's feckless, reps think she's a snake. Trump world loves Don Jnr. He basically is a shoe in for his father.

Don Jr. is liked by Trump world, but the entire Trump movement will almost certainly implode if Trump loses in Nov., which would in the process take down all of the grifters within it.
 
Don Jr. is liked by Trump world, but the entire Trump movement will almost certainly implode if Trump loses in Nov., which would in the process take down all of the grifters within it.
i would agree with this. If Trump wins though its more likely Don will be the one to run for office than Ivanka. He is literally a black haired version of his father
 
i would agree with this. If Trump wins though its more likely Don will be the one to run for office than Ivanka. He is literally a black haired version of his father

I disagree. There's no one even remotely close in terms of being a cult of personality dictator to the GOP base like Trump. His kids simply don't have that skill set.
 
Let’s just assume that‘s true. Do the limited information and the less biased state of mind make non-American opinions sound more rational and reasonable? Is it the distance that keeps the mind objective? What is it?

The unlimited information about the upcoming election doesn‘t seem to be doing American voters any good. Too soon to call but American voters don‘t seem to be very good at this. Maybe caring about opinions outside of your circle could offer an alternate, useful perspective.
There is no doubt that America should co-opt some of the ideas and policies from other countries. I would also agree that not having a dog in the fight makes one more objective (i.e. independent auditor).

However, it's not about the media-generated information set. It's more about understanding the nuanced American ideals and different regions and how they can affect the election. If you can't understand these nuances then it's nearly impossible to form an opinion that isn't derived from a media-driven narrative or limited data. Personally, I give very little weight to opinions based solely on this b/c they can be found anywhere.
 

Obviously good models can come from anyone. But I would just note that this guy seems like he's an undergrad, and this his first Presidential election model. He's done infinite times more than I could even now in setting up a model and a website. But would just caution that it is pretty unproven (not that election models can ever really get proven).
 
Obviously good models can come from anyone. But I would just note that this guy seems like he's an undergrad, and this his first Presidential election model. He's done infinite times more than I could even now in setting up a model and a website. But would just caution that it is pretty unproven (not that election models can ever really get proven).

Yeah true. All he's really doing is taking current RCP averages in each state and creating a national model out of it.
 
There are too many months left. Make it happen now. When can people officially start posting early ballots?
 


He needs a real progressive. There’s too much flakiness and baggage with these choices.
 


He needs a real progressive. There’s too much flakiness and baggage with these choices.


as crude as this sounds, if he wants play into the "optics of the moment" it will be Harris, if he wants the token progressive it will be Warren.

The other progresives will get "committee positions" so they can just box them away and keep them quiet.
 
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as crude as this sounds, if he wants play into the "optics of the moment" it will be Harris, if he wants the token progressive it will be Warren.

The other progresives will get "committee positions" so they can just box them away and keep them quite.

Anyone other than Warren or Harris would be very risky imo.
 
Anyone other than Warren or Harris would be very risky imo.

i agree, the campaign of "nothing will fundamentally change", was never going to and will never select a risky no.2.

i've fully come around to a now likely Biden win, polls are just too overwhelming unless something absolutely unforeseen happens. Progressives should now forget about the VP choice and focus on protesting a Biden Administration on policy.
 
Interesting chart at how Independents have over time slowly drifted towards leaning Dem, while the GOP base has been shrinking.

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Interesting chart at how Independents have over time slowly drifted towards leaning Dem, while the GOP base has been shrinking.

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Best bit of that chart is that while the GOP have had their share steadily fall over time, they've had the Presidency for 12 years of it. Behold the electoral college in all its glory.
 
Best bit of that chart is that while the GOP have had their share steadily fall over time, they've had the Presidency for 12 years of it. Behold the electoral college in all its glory.
When Bush won the first time, in the graph they are virtually tied. Bush won both the electoral college and the popular vote on his second election.
 
I know that it is things that he said 4 years ago, but Trump probably won’t know it. Imminent tweet coming where he calls Graham a lesbian.

At a time when Lindsey desperately needs Trump's support right now since he is neck and neck against his Dem challenger in SC at the moment. Embarrassing to say the least.
 
8 point congressional ballot should be sufficient to reclaim the Senate. McSally, Gardner, Collins, Daines look like they may lose. Jones will almost surely lose in Bama. Ernst and Tillis are also vulnerable. Worse case for Dems would be a pickup of 2 (and not reclaiming the Senate). Best case would be pickup of 5 (6 minues Doug Jones). McConnell and Graham should squeek by with wins.

 
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Trump, no matter how vile and corrupt will win his 2nd term, you know deep inside he's the ordained one destined to ruin america.

He's the man sent by (god or the devil, whichever you believe) every century or two to wreak havoc on middle earth and make changes of the century.

It's just bound to happen I think, something will happen between now and November and he'll win his 2nd.
 
Trump, no matter how vile and corrupt will win his 2nd term, you know deep inside he's the ordained one destined to ruin america.

He's the man sent by (god or the devil, whichever you believe) every century or two to wreak havoc on middle earth and make changes of the century.

It's just bound to happen I think, something will happen between now and November and he'll win his 2nd.

There's a sort of fatalistic, pre-defeatist tendency to think so, although signs point to something else happening in November.
 
Trump, no matter how vile and corrupt will win his 2nd term, you know deep inside he's the ordained one destined to ruin america.

He's the man sent by (god or the devil, whichever you believe) every century or two to wreak havoc on middle earth and make changes of the century.

It's just bound to happen I think, something will happen between now and November and he'll win his 2nd.
Scared to say it but I sometimes fear Joe might kick the bucket before election day.
 
Scared to say it but I sometimes fear Joe might kick the bucket before election day.
Im still optimistic about Trump's chances of being infected with Covid-19. It would be such cosmic justice if that kills the cnut.
 
Liverpool winning the league?

Sorry too far. That was sick.
 
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