2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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What's record for the biggest win in a Presidential election?
Votes or electoral college? FDR won the highest percentage of the 20th century in terms of electoral college in 1936. LBJ highest vote percentage on record in 1964.
 
Really good signs that Trump is going to get absolutely trounced. I expect the electoral and senate figures will be much closer but I won’t be a bit surprised if Biden wins by 9+ points on the popular vote.

As long as he wins the popular vote by more than 4 or 5 points, he should win the electoral college. Obviously, if he were to win it by double digits then we could potentially be looking at a 200 point electoral win. If on the other hand we go into election day with Biden only leading by a few then the result will be very close.
 
Also Washington won 100% of the electoral vote technically. And I know Monroe’s numbers for example were really high but I’m not counting that as it’s a totally different ball game
 
This would be Biden's dream scenario.

He is currently tied with Trump in Texas, so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that it winds up in play.

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Texas is a trap. It’s one of the most time-consuming and expensive states to campaign in, and the blues aren’t winning it this cycle. Don’t fall for it Joe.
 
This would be Biden's dream scenario.

He is currently tied with Trump in Texas, so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that it winds up in play.

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Isn’t it pretty extraordinary that a democratic candidate is tied with the GOP candidate in Texas?
 
Texas is a trap. It’s one of the most difficult and expensive states to campaign in, and the blues aren’t winning it this cycle. Don’t fall for it Joe.

I don't think he will spend much time there since he has the likes of Beto and a few others who can work on the ground. If internal polling is however close, then a few one off day trips to Dallas, Austin, or Houston wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
Talking of dream scenarios, would people rather see McConnell ousted or squirming as minority leader?
 
I don't think he will spend much time there since he has the likes of Beto and a few others who can work on the ground. If internal polling is however close, then a few one off day trips to Dallas, Austin, or Houston wouldn't be a bad thing.
Hmm...saves him spending resources El Paso. Didn’t think about that. I’d have San Antonio high on the list...maybe build a stronger base of voters for the future.
 
He'd he a massive trouble maker behind the scenes in DC if he stayed on during a Biden term. Would also be great for Kentucky if he gets booted since they would then have a Dem Governor and Senator.
 
Talking of dream scenarios, would people rather see McConnell ousted or squirming as minority leader?
Ousted. While it would be good to see him in senate being relatively powerless, he is actually very good at politics, and would somehow manage to make deals with Schumers (or Biden himself, with whom he had already collaborated in the past going behind Reid's back).
 
Ousted. While it would be good to see him in senate being relatively powerless, he is actually very good at politics, and would somehow manage to make deals with Schumers (or Biden himself, with whom he had already collaborated in the past going behind Reid's back).

You’re beginning to get it :p
 
Nah, once a rather sane Republican candidate emerge they'll all back him again.

This trend is due to trump being too much even hardcore republicas are shifting away. I'd say if biden wins 2020 anyone GOP come up with in 2024 would win easily (as long as he's not part of trump dynasty). It's like any manager would be an upgrade on Moyes.
 
Nah, once a rather sane Republican candidate emerge they'll all back him again.

This trend is due to trump being too much even hardcore republicas are shifting away. I'd say if biden wins 2020 anyone GOP come up with in 2024 would win easily (as long as he's not part of trump dynasty). It's like any manager would be an upgrade on Moyes.

That's the problem - nearly all GOPers ARE Trumpers in the present and would struggle to shake off the stench if they attempted to run in 24 as regular Republicans.
 
Georgia Democrats set new primary turnout record, outpacing GOP voters


ATLANTA — Democrats set a new turnout record for primary voting in last week’s Georgia vote, soaring past 1 million voters to outpace Republicans during an election plagued by significant obstacles at polling sites.

The latest results, still being tallied as absentee ballots are counted, show Democratic turnout in Georgia surpassed 1,060,851 — the previous high-mark set during the 2008 presidential primary when then-U.S. Sen. Barack Obama trounced Hillary Clinton. Republicans lagged behind, with more than 950,000 votes in last week’s contest. But there was no competitive statewide contest on the ballot, since President Donald Trump had already locked up his party’s nomination and U.S. Sen. David Perdue faced no primary opposition.

Georgia Democrats pointed to the high numbers as another sign of voter enthusiasm headed into the November election. Joe Biden aims to be the first Democratic presidential contender to carry Georgia since 1992, and state Democrats are racing to flip two U.S. Senate seats and a suburban U.S. House seat.

The turnout numbers soared mainly due to a surge in absentee ballots after an expansion of mail-in voting ordered by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, amid coronavirus restrictions. A review showed those mail-in ballots were roughly split between Democrats and Republicans.

The increase took place despite a series of problems created more hurdles for countless voters.

Tens of thousands never received their absentee ballots in the mail. And an Atlanta Journal-Constitution investigation found that human error, equipment failure and a complicated, multicomputer voting system combined to create chaos that resulted in hours-long lines.

A new highThe Democratic turnout centered on a U.S. Senate primary won by Jon Ossoff, who tallied about 52% of the vote to secure the nomination without a runoff. His vote total — about 560,000 ballots — far surpassed the 310,000 Democrats who voted in the Senate primary in 2016.

The party’s turnout also eclipsed the heated gubernatorial primary in 2018 between Stacey Abrams and Stacey Evans, when roughly 550,000 ballots were cast. On the GOP side, more than 1.2 million Republicans cast ballots in the 2016 presidential primary, which Trump carried by a wide margin. That year, Democratic turnout was more subdued: Roughly 760,000 Democrats turned out for a vote that Clinton handily won.

The increase in Democratic votes comes after recent demographic trends that encourage party leaders. An AJC analysis found that more than 320,000 new voters registered in Georgia since 2019, and many are younger and racially diverse — blocs of voters who tend to favor Democrats. And top state Democrats hope to channel frustration over the federal and state coronavirus response, as well as the outrage over police brutality that’s sparked nationwide protests for racial justice, into votes in November.

Abrams, who is talked about as a potential running-mate to Biden, said she’s “absolutely certain” Georgia will get new attention from the Democrat’s campaign.

“Our responsibility is to build on that, to not take it for granted, and to ensure that every voter — regardless of party — can participate in November elections,” she said of the high turnout. “When you break democracy, it breaks for everyone. When we fix it, we fix it for everyone. We have the numbers and I think we will win, but I want to win because the playing field is even.”

Top Republicans, too, are likely to cast the Democratic turnout as a November warning. Perdue has long talked of the tight 2018 midterm as a wakeup call for Republicans, and he said in an interview he’s eager to expose Democrats he said encourage a radical ideology.

“I’ve lived around the world and I’ve seen where governments become totalitarian,” said Perdue. “I’m happy to start that fight today.”
 
‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection
Conventional indicators suggest the president’s bid for a second term is in jeopardy. But state and local GOP officials see a different election unfolding.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457

They've bought into Trump's rosy narrative that COVID is going away and the economy will come roaring back just before the election. Highly doubtful it will play out this way.
 
They've bought into Trump's rosy narrative that COVID is going away and the economy will come roaring back just before the election. Highly doubtful it will play out this way.
Indeed. Obviously, covid-19 is not going anywhere (it is still killing thousands every day if you count the 4000 people for week dying from a 'mysterious' disease), and the economy won't improve that much. Trump is fecked if Biden does not make electoral suicide.
 
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More Eliot Engel news:


For context: Eliot Engel was caught on an open mic saying he "wouldn't care" (direct quote) to be at a BLM protest if it "wasn't for a primary" (direct quote) challenge. Clyburn endorsed Engel saying that he was "not new to the fight for justice & equality. I have worked with him on these issues for almost 3 decades." Note that his opponent is black.

Several things:

1. Without the hot mic recording, this race would have been nothing. A late endorsement from AOC and Bernie would have come and changed nothing. It would have been another statistic in the L column for the left. As it is, given the flurry of money and endorsements, it is still looking good for Engel. His last primary win was by 60 points and the general was unopposed.

2. Clyburn is widely recognised as the decisive factor behind Biden's SC win, which in itself is the decisive factor behind his rapid ascent in national polling, the sudden consolidation of the party centrist candidates, and massive wins from Super Tuesdy onwards. This is a very clear narrative of black leadership and black voters rejecting Bernie.
It is nice to see just how sincere this leadership is about representing its community. When people talk about Bernie and his losses ad boil it down to "rejected by African-Americans", apart from missing that once again age was a better predictor of voting than race, they should know that they are allying with the influence of this type of leadership. But for the ones who are serious about it, they know this and appreciate it.

3. A Trump re-election PAC just donated 100k to Engel, alongside endorsements from Hillary Clinton, Clyburn, and Adam Schiff, for the re-election of the Democratic chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee who voted for Iraq and for Jerusalem as the capital, and against the Iran deal. Never let it be said that bipartisanship and sensible centrism is dead in Washington.

(the people of point 2 are still at it. i hope they <redacted>)
 
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Joe Biden is going to win, die before taking the oath and the republicans are going claim Pence is president because Kamala Harris hadn't taken the veep oath when Biden died. Democrats will be very upset before deciding civility and voting are the solution
 


Up by 10 in florida by a pollster rated A/B on fivethirtyeight :drool:

This one is so good that it's hard to believe. If this were anything but an A/B pollster you'd just throw it away. And even then, I'm still looking at it thinking something must be wrong.
 
Is there any chance Democrat voters will get complacent with the polls and not vote in the numbers required ?

I don't think Trump voters will be put off by these polls as they are so brainwashed by the fake news mantra
 
Is there any chance Democrat voters will get complacent with the polls and not vote in the numbers required ?

I don't think Trump voters will be put off by these polls as they are so brainwashed by the fake news mantra
Yes, that's always a risk. If polls are this good closer to the election and I were Biden's campaign (not that I actually know anything about campaigning) my message would be 99% "just go vote, voting is awesome" with the other 1% being "Oh right, Joe Biden".
 
Is there any chance Democrat voters will get complacent with the polls and not vote in the numbers required ?

I don't think Trump voters will be put off by these polls as they are so brainwashed by the fake news mantra

Dems can definitely get complacent. Best strategy is to ignore the polls and make sure you vote.
 
Is there any chance Democrat voters will get complacent with the polls and not vote in the numbers required ?

I don't think Trump voters will be put off by these polls as they are so brainwashed by the fake news mantra

100%

The polls aren't good at measuring turnout, where Trump supporters will turn out in greater numbers than polls suggest and Dems may not. Not to mention all the voter suppression efforts that are already underway by the GOP.
It will be far closer than the polls would have people believe and there is also the potential for Biden fecking it up along the way, whereas Trump's support is far more solid (albeit with a lower ceiling).
 
I still can’t get over the fact that after all the shit he’s done and said for the past four years, at least 40% of Americans will still vote for him. America seriously need to abolish the two-party system.
 
I still can’t get over the fact that after all the shit he’s done and said for the past four years, at least 40% of Americans will still vote for him. America seriously need to abolish the two-party system.

Its because he has a very solid propaganda apparatus in place to keep his flock on board. Fox News/OAN, Talk Radio, all of which gets amplified on right wing social media etc. If you remove any one of these pieces (except OAN which is too small), his entire support structure would crumble.
 
I still can’t get over the fact that after all the shit he’s done and said for the past four years, at least 40% of Americans will still vote for him. America seriously need to abolish the two-party system.
A good proportion of them are tribal Republicans who support the party colours above everything else. And for them, being anti-Democrat is as important as being an actual Republican (which explains Trump's constant antagonism of Obama/Clinton and his loose adherence to old-school Republican values).

There's also the very human flaw of many voters being unwilling to admit they were wrong to have voted for him in the first place in 2016.
 
‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection
Conventional indicators suggest the president’s bid for a second term is in jeopardy. But state and local GOP officials see a different election unfolding.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457
I mean, they may end up being right, but there is literally no evidence to suggest it. That's basically a group of people saying, well I think it's gonna happen, so, yeah, that's what I think.
 
I mean, they may end up being right, but there is literally no evidence to suggest it. That's basically a group of people saying, well I think it's gonna happen, so, yeah, that's what I think.

After making fun of Bill Mitchell for months about him going on about Trump winning despite all polls and having to endure the 2016 elections, this time I'll wait till someone else gets sworn in. Anything can go wrong has gone wrong in 2020.
 
After making fun of Bill Mitchell for months about him going on about Trump winning despite all polls and having to endure the 2016 elections, this time I'll wait till someone else gets sworn in. Anything can go wrong has gone wrong in 2020.
Absolutely, I think everyone will. Personally, I'll be 'investing' all I can in a bet on Trump winning to hedge my emotions :)

But if maths and numbers and what not mean anything, today that article feels really weird.
 
I still can’t get over the fact that after all the shit he’s done and said for the past four years, at least 40% of Americans will still vote for him. America seriously need to abolish the two-party system.
It’s because they know how full of shit democrats are and can be trusted to help Trump actually pass republican legislature with ease.
 
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