Just don't feck with our hockey games.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Just don't feck with our hockey games.
They're our hockey games. Maybe try winning the cup in the last quarter century.
they have to dig up Gretzky first
That's it, this means war. 
Isn’t his first choice Warren?
Prepare for more rehearsed lines like “America doesn’t want a food fight they want food on the table.”
How bout you post that political compass score you sent and I’ll post mine
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-8.75&soc=-7.49
Ok. That's mine.
But you made up yours
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-8.75&soc=-7.49
Ok. That's mine.
But you made up yours
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-5.88&soc=-3.74
https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-8.75&soc=-7.49
Ok. That's mine.
But you made up yours
To get a score like that you have to sure answer strongly disagree to any question remotely right leaning and strongly agree to any question remotely left leaning without taking into account any nuance whatsoever. You'd surely just be siding with your party on everything no matter if it was right or wrong.
Also this quiz is poorly designed, there's no middle option and many of the questions ask you to say whether you think something is true regardless of whether you think it's right or not, yet I would wager that most people are answering them as if they believe the question is asking whether things are morally right or wrong.
But fun none the less https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-6.0&soc=-5.03
A neither agree nor disagree option would have been nice.
You're absolutely right that it's a very flawed quiz, but I don't agree with your conclusions about his results. You should consider the possibility that he has taken nuance into account, and just arrived at conclusions that are more radical than you. Keep in mind a "true" moderate/centrist could come to the same conclusions about your own results, and I'm sure you wouldn't accept that you lack nuance.
Edit: Since we're all posting ours, here's mine. I'm honestly a bit surprised, it's changed a bit since last time: https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-9.25&soc=-7.69
What I agree with is its fun.
We are all a bunch of lefties
Yes. I also wish it had a little more nuance to the options like the iSideWith quiz does.
The question basically haven't changed for 15 years, either. This has always been a fun exercise, but it's also always been flawed.
That's fair, my own opinion is that it's very unrealistic to think that somebody would answer strongly agree to anything remotely left leaning if they were being truthful, because some of the questions in there appear at first glance like they're promoting right leaning opinions, by asking if you think it's true that something is the case in some instances, that's a trap to get for example left leaning people to say strongly disgree and right leaning people to strongly agree, which would force such a heavily leaning result. But the question itself is not asking if you believe something is morally right, but whether it's true despite your reservations about how correct it is.
If people answered all the questions as if they were being asked for their opinion on how right/wrong the answers were morally and not how true they are in practice, I would think that it was more likely that they were either not reading the questions properly, or they'd just be toeing the party line on everything for the sake of appearing as left leaning as possible when there's often overlap and someone who is majorly one party can still be less overwhelmingly democratic on a few issues etc. Or maybe the answers given were 100% honest, but I find that unlikely, somebody of that calibre would be Uncle Sam personified and that kind of person doesn't really exist since the reality of politics is often more nuanced.
Yes.
iSideWith has added other countries to it now, and has taken its nuance to another level. I wish the creators of Political Compass would do the same.
Definitely makes more sense especially the 100k income part.
truly one of the dumbest posts in the thread. you dont understand sanders plan. you dont understand politics. you dont understand how means testing works. you dont understand how progressive taxation works. you dont understand how debt works. you should just go back to being a trump supporter
For me, I don’t see the point of taxing Wall Street to forgive student loan debts of the upper middle class and the wealthy in addition to the debts of “normal people”.
Had Bernie put an income cap on his as well, I might be more inclined to support it over Warren’s.
rich people dont have student loan debt. they just pay at the time. jesus christ.
those percentile groupings are not the rich people that i am referring to or the rich people that bernie is referring to or has ever referred to. the top quartile is a pointless grouping for the purposes of this discussion. the 1% of households is over $400,000. thats the group we are talking about.
But wait, there’s more...
The largest increases in borrowing rates among college graduates have come from the highest-income families, a new analysis of federal data shows.
the likelihood of borrowing increased the most among students from the nation’s wealthiest families, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of government data.
The center’s report, published Tuesday, shows that the share of graduates from families in the top income quartile who borrowed to pay for college more than doubled between 1992-93 and 2011-12, from 24 percent to 50 percent. For the second-highest income-quartile, the borrowing rate increased by more than 80 percent.
but wait i already addressed that...
They define rich as a household income of $173k+. And that also could be middle class if we’re talking about families in cities like NYC and SF. To Eboue’s point, what of the households making $400k+ or more?
If there’s data that breaks the top group down further into subgroups, then I’ve not seen it. Be my guest though if you think you can find it.
Either way, since cost of living is different based on location, people making $400k in very expensive places could be in the same position to take out student loans as a family making $200k in a less expensive place.
Haha typical Eboue having a meltdown. I'll let you enjoy your bashing of me here if it makes you feel better.
Exactly I know more than enough students of good income families who chose to go to an out of state school because it seemed cooler. They racked a crap ton of debt with no marketable skills.
Anyway my take on it is seperate. The college culture needs to change. That whole "student college lifestyle" that has carried from mid 20th century is simply not affordable anymore.
I went to a community college and then transferred to a pretty good uni. My loans/expenses were around 20k and I have only 3k left now only 2 years since graduating. I still think it's high but if I had given in to the peer pressure of listening to my friends who ridicules me for going to a community college I would easily have 60k or so in debt.
Theres no reason those first few years of gen ed classes should cost that much. They are extremely cheap in community colleges and it makes no difference. If anything I feel I was ahead of my peers when I transferred.
People talk about Europe's college being much cheaper. It's true but also, the average first and second year student does not live like an American. The lifestyle is not as lavish.
And you call me clueless. Seriously.
Good one trump supporter
I think the lack of a middle option is to mitigate Central tendency bias - most people feel comfortable picking a middling response, which feels more 'normal'. So, yes, the scale could be more sensitive. I suppose though, given the number of questions that determine each dimensional score, measurement error could be low; the final position on the graph is probably a good representation of your views.
I have done the survey, and I don't remember any items asking if something is true. They simply state something and ask you to agree or not. So you might agree simply because you think it is true, moral, both or some other interpretation. Which of those criteria you prioritise says something about your values. So I would say it well captures your values (if we ignore that everyone inadvertently lie to themselves and others in order to fit in) .
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