2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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What's to report there? Like with all those e-Mails, it's a non story inflated by some dumb hillbillies on Reddit. There's no direct involvement by Clinton, we haven't (and likely never will) seen the raw footage of those interviews. We don't have any implication of Hillary being racist, nom whatsoever. Why should you report on some alleged chef in a climate where the shithouse that is left of the Donald Trump campaign tries to throw every shit they can to see if some sticks?
A campaign that has been proven, over and over, to rely on lies, lies and even more lies?

This is the problem. People in this thread have actually spent time reading the emails. And I have to go with Eichenwald's reaction on it,
 
Media showing their true colours yet again by not reporting this whatsoever.

Nothing in the media about the white house chef who says Clinton used the N word in front of her.

What's to report there? Like with all those e-Mails, it's a non story inflated by some dumb hillbillies on Reddit. There's no direct involvement by Clinton, we haven't (and likely never will) seen the raw footage of those interviews. We don't have any implication of Hillary being racist, nom whatsoever. Why should you report on some alleged chef in a climate where the shithouse that is left of the Donald Trump campaign tries to throw every shit they can to see if some sticks?
A campaign that has been proven, over and over, to rely on lies, lies and even more lies?

Plus the central theme of that supposedly shocking expose is that people are provoking racist, violent thugs into revealing themselves as racist, violent thugs. Hard to get worked up about tbh.
 
Obama is bad? What's so bad about status quo, there's no war lately other than terrorist attack, economy is good considering where we are 8 years ago, geopolitics is quite stable at the moment, jobs are created.


Sometimes no changes is a good changes. Why change the good things. What would trump do? Cut taxes? Those taxes has to come from somewhere the medical bills ain't going to pay for themselves. Cutting corporate tax won't mean job, it'll mean the corporate are getting richer by bringing their taxable into the country while leaving the jobs back in china, and you're back to square one with a massive red on your book.

Obama is not bad, evil, trying to destroy the nation or any of that other silly nonsense. But.....

Libya, Syria, Yemen, drone strikes, etc etc etc. Things that can not be put on the preceding administration. I do wonder if given the chance to vote again if Obama would still win that Nobel Peace Prize.

Not really sure you can call the geopolitical situation stable with the worsening relations with Russia and China, of course a lot of that falls on Russia and China.

Now I am not saying Obama is bad, just pointing out that we should be careful about what he is given credit for.
 
Libya, Syria, Yemen, drone strikes, etc etc etc. Things that can not be put on the preceding administration. I do wonder if given the chance to vote again if Obama would still win that Nobel Peace Prize.

Not really sure you can call the geopolitical situation stable with the worsening relations with Russia and China, of course a lot of that falls on Russia and China.

Now I am not saying Obama is bad, just pointing out that we should be careful about what he is given credit for.

You'd hope not. It was daft. You'd swear that the world had run out of worthy people that year or something.
 
Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton supported a Saudi nuclear programme. She's as hawkish when it comes to Iran as the worst of them.

How do you think her view on the issue is any different from Washington mainstream? Because she's closer to the saudi family? Doesn't seem like reason enough to me.

Hillary can be called hawkish, but to me its about as hawkish as the DC foreign policy/strategic apparatus is.
 
How do you think her view on the issue is any different from Washington mainstream? Because she's closer to the saudi family? Doesn't seem like reason enough to me.

Hillary can be called hawkish, but to me its about as hawkish as the DC foreign policy/strategic apparatus is.
It's known that her and Obama disagree quite strongly on Iran behind closed doors. For starters she seems quite open to the option of bombing their facilities.

I believe some of the wikileaks documents show the Saudis to be the biggest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, so its not entirely unfeasible that she'd be somewhat willing to the Saudis pursuing a nuclear program, especially when you couple in her views on Iran.
 
I'd like to think noone would be dumb enough to believe they can vote in a presidential election by tweeting the candidates name with an election hashtag, but given the idiocy we've seen from large sections of the US population you never know.
 
Yes after I said something.....
I was actually in the middle of writing that response to Marcelo before I saw your post.

Not sure what your point is anyway? I wasnt going to bother responding to fcb's post filled with petulant insults.
 
Cool, you can see the Florida early votes here... Trump still ahead by just over 11k today
https://countyballotfiles.elections...eports/AbsenteeEarlyVotingReports/PublicStats

Absentee voting favors Republicans. It's expected to edge Dems by a few points. Early in person voting in FL doesn't start until 1/11 I think.

Another national poll from SurveyUSA/Boston Globe had Clinton +10 today. The signs are clear now. Without the LAT/USC poll in the average I.e pollster.com, her average is about +8.
 
I'd like to think noone would be dumb enough to believe they can vote in a presidential election by tweeting the candidates name with an election hashtag, but given the idiocy we've seen from large sections of the US population you never know.


Get a bunch of twitter bots and vote for Carrot Top!

But yes some will fall for it, probably the same ones that fall for the Nigerian scam
 
It's known that her and Obama disagree quite strongly on Iran behind closed doors. For starters she seems quite open to the option of bombing their facilities.

I believe some of the wikileaks documents show the Saudis to be the biggest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, so its not entirely unfeasible that she'd be somewhat willing to the Saudis pursuing a nuclear program, especially when you couple in her views on Iran.

I think she's enough of a realist (and you can even say hawkish) to know that non-proliferation is an important strategic stance, even towards allied nations. Be the big boy, hold all the cards (or nukes in this case).
 
Do you want to try that again without the immature tone?

Do you disagree with Clinton's hawkish stance on Iran?

I've given up on you. You are so deep in "alternative media" shit there is no rescue.
People seriously believing that a nuclear armed Saudi Arabia ISN'T America's worst nightmare are not worth replying too.
 
As hawkish as she might be, she's not an idiot. She wouldn't want more nukes in the world the US doesn't have direct control over. No matter how much she likes the Saudis.
 
I think she's enough of a realist (and you can even say hawkish) to know that non-proliferation is an important strategic stance, even towards allied nations. Be the big boy, hold all the cards (or nukes in this case).
Yeah I can agree on that, my point was that it's not all that unfeasible to be covertly supportive of a Saudi program when you factor in her cosy relationship with them and Russia-Irans increased sphere of influence in the region. Certainly more so than her would be predecessor.
 
I've given up on you. You are so deep in "alternative media" shit there is no rescue.
People seriously believing that a nuclear armed Saudi Arabia ISN'T America's worst nightmare are not worth replying too.
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I rarely post in this thread, and when I do it's not conspiratal nonsense like you're alluding to.
 


Those kind of numbers don't point to a race that's about to tighten up. But stranger things have happened, I suppose.
 
One theory I came up with on why they are spending resources in AZ instead of GA is because it's easier to relocate staffs/volunteers from CA, NV and CO in the final weeks. Also, in case there's a total collapse, there's a chance they can nick the Senate seat from McCain as well.
 
If Trump takes down enough Republicans in the Congress, Senate, and state level government he will turn this into a victory statement about how he made the Republican leadership pay for not giving him enough support, blah blah blah.
 
I've noticed how Trump, even when he focuses on policies rather than attacking all and sundry, gives no detail about how he's going to carry out his various promises. For example:

How is he going to force Mexico to pay for the wall?
How is he going to force companies and corporations from shifting jobs abroad?
How is he simultaneously going to radically cut taxes whilst boosting defence spending, without borrowing even more money?

It's just a bunch of con-trick promises with nothing to back it up.
 
I've noticed how Trump, even when he focuses on policies rather than attacking all and sundry, gives no detail about how he's going to carry out his various promises. For example:

How is he going to force Mexico to pay for the wall?
How is he going to force companies and corporations from shifting jobs abroad?
How is he simultaneously going to radically cut taxes whilst boosting defence spending, without borrowing even more money?

It's just a bunch of con-trick promises with nothing to back it up.


the response I have gotten when I asked Trump supporters about that usually fall along the lines of...

1)What are the details behind Hillary's plans?
2) All politicians make promises like this without giving details
3) He's a biznersmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
 
How is he going to force Mexico to pay for the wall?

Confiscate all taco trucks from the undocumented immigrants and threaten to burn them if Mexico don't pay up.

How is he going to force companies and corporations from shifting jobs abroad?

Supreme Leader/God Emperor will put every single CEO and board members of outsourcing companies in jail until they pay.


How is he simultaneously going to radically cut taxes whilst boosting defence spending, without borrowing even more money?

That one he actually provided great details, he'll just negotiate the debt down.

Btw, who's going to watch the debate?
 
I've noticed how Trump, even when he focuses on policies rather than attacking all and sundry, gives no detail about how he's going to carry out his various promises. For example:

How is he going to force Mexico to pay for the wall?
How is he going to force companies and corporations from shifting jobs abroad?
How is he simultaneously going to radically cut taxes whilst boosting defence spending, without borrowing even more money?

It's just a bunch of con-trick promises with nothing to back it up.
He thinks he can arbitrarily make decisions. Look at how he says he'd put Clinton in jail. Like its up to him. He has no clue.
 
It's known that her and Obama disagree quite strongly on Iran behind closed doors. For starters she seems quite open to the option of bombing their facilities.

I believe some of the wikileaks documents show the Saudis to be the biggest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, so its not entirely unfeasible that she'd be somewhat willing to the Saudis pursuing a nuclear program, especially when you couple in her views on Iran.
So you've decided to speculate on something she might do despite no evidence whatsoever, compared to the candidate who said on national television that Japan should have nukes.

It's not like the Senkaku Island dispute already is one of the most likely causes for WWIII as things stand. :nervous:
 
Presidential election forgone conclusion.

What's the word on Senate and House?
 
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