If you mean George W. Bush, then how can you not feel a difference between the state of this nation when Bill Clinton left office to when Bush left office? Bush have done so many wrong things in 8 years that this nation is still recovering from. Obama is debatable, but overall I believe he did more good than bad. Maybe if he had more support from congress he would've been able to do better.
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If you mean George W. Bush, then how can you not feel a difference between the state of this nation when Bill Clinton left office to when Bush left office? Bush have done so many wrong things in 8 years that this nation is still recovering from. Obama is debatable, but overall I believe he did more good than bad. Maybe if he had more support from congress he would've been able to do better.
It's not even a good summation of the UK system, we've had one coalition since the war and it wasn't popular.
How can you be sure? She's been in the political scene for more than 15 years. She ran for governor of Massachusetts in 2002. She also ran for president in 2012. So, it's not her first presidential run. So, she's definitely been "seen and heard" since 2012.
She's too old to stick around much longer.
She's younger than Hillary. She probably won't run for President again but she'll be in the public scene for sure, campaigning on climate change and various other progressive social issues. It's good to see more progessive Democrats like Tulsi Gabbard and Nina Turner. Shame that Howard Dean wasn't the nominee in 2004. Kerry just couldn't convince enough people to win.
Notice that they are in Congress as progressive Democrats instead of out of Congress as progressive Greens.
Mark Cuban on Don Lemon just now said he knows of two other Trump accusers who don't want to come forward.
In a five-thirty-eight chat this was mentioned as the reason why the US will most likely remain a two party system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger's_law.
Youtube comments aren't all trash.
Was just listening to Eddie Vedder singing "Mother" (from Pink Floyd).
Someone noticed:
"Mother should I run for president?"
"Mother should I build a wall?"
Was just listening to Eddie Vedder singing "Mother" (from Pink Floyd).
Someone noticed:
"Mother should I run for president?"
"Mother should I build a wall?"
Yup. Spot on
Obama should have gone full Arnie
A really good (imo) article on how the Obama presidency has seen a redefining of patriotism in America.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/obama-dangerous-patriotism/index.html
Relevant to this thread because of the very different brands of patriotism seen on the two sides of this election.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/obama-dangerous-patriotism/index.html
Relevant to this thread because of the very different brands of patriotism seen on the two sides of this election.
Would be really really really weird if true because so far Dems haven't put resources into GA while already pushing into AZ.
Some quotes from Nate Silver's most recent election update...
"Clinton is more likely to win Texas than Trump is to win the election, at least according to the polls-only model, which puts Trump’s overall chances at 12 percent."
"In 2012, President Obama lost the South (as defined by the Census Bureau) by 7 percentage points. This year — according to our polls-only projections as of mid-afternoon on Tuesday — Clinton is losing the South to Trump by only 1 point."
"Clinton is more likely to win Texas than Trump is to win the election, at least according to the polls-only model, which puts Trump’s overall chances at 12 percent."
"In 2012, President Obama lost the South (as defined by the Census Bureau) by 7 percentage points. This year — according to our polls-only projections as of mid-afternoon on Tuesday — Clinton is losing the South to Trump by only 1 point."
It's unprecedented because it's effectively a 3rd term for Obama as Hillary is running as a 'continuous enabler' instead of a course-corrector/disruptor.
The Dems' own version of Reagan/Reagan/Bush.
Can't wait for my AZ ballot to arrive, the state is actually in play this cycle and I feel that my vote will help make a difference to swing it blue.
Are you for real?
Let's look at what happened under Bush:
1) Negligence on behalf of his administration to repeated warnings from the CIA, NSA and foreign intelligence that Al Qaeda was planning an attack on US soil. Bush and his administration refused to take it as seriously as they could. Would 9/11 still have occurred? That can never be answered. But some blame lies with his administration for not investigating as throughly as they could.
Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...w-bush-do-all-he-could-to-prevent-911/411175/
2) Inherited budget surplus turning into a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit by the time he left office. Bush was responsible for massive tax cuts for the wealthy and a pointless, possibly criminal Iraq war that was an extreme drain on US resources.
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/opinion/sunday/24sun4.html?_r=0
3) The Iraq War. Don't even need to expand on this.
4) Failure to deal with Katrina properly.
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/11/AR2006021101409.html
Instead, look at Obama's achievements, such as Obamacare, the millions of jobs created, being the 1st President to support LGBT rights, repel of Don't Ask Don't Tell, finally getting rid of Bin Laden, etc. I could keep going on and on.
People are just stupid. This is the one lesson I will take to my gave.
Quite apart from the Bush is bad, Obama is good rhetoric, it's a bit unfair to solely blame Bush and his administration for negligence in regards to the terrorist threats and 9/11 attack - they only got into power in Jan 2001. Surely some of the blame must lie with the previous administration as well....or does that not count because Bill Clinton is "good"
I didn't solely blame them. I literally said "some blame lies with his administration."
Apologies, you are correct - In my haste to respond to the cherry-picked points of the post I didn't read the main thread properly.
I agree with the statement that some of the blame does lie with the Bush administration.
Anyways, for the future of world peace lets hope America elects Donald Trump.
The unemployment rate has fallen under Obama which is natural when you have a recession as a reference point. Obama took office at a good point if you want to make your numbers look good to people who don't understand statistics. Both reference points A and B will be very convenient. Both labor force participation rate and employment rate have fallen although they are improving slightly. Part of it is surely demographics but the change is probably too big in 10 years for it to be the sole cause. When people don't look for jobs, the unemployment rate falls. Signs are that US are still recovering from the recession though. It's always better to look at statistics charts than to let other people take numbers from two reference points and sell you the narrative.
Then you can go on to argue who's fault the recession was but no political administration has been able to find a magic cure against business cycles.
Then you can go on to argue who's fault the recession was but no political administration has been able to find a magic cure against business cycles.
Media showing their true colours yet again by not reporting this whatsoever.
Nothing in the media about the white house chef who says Clinton used the N word in front of her.
Kinda relevant to the topic.
This is true, the only way there was going to be anything different would've been Bernie. That's why they cheated him out of it. He'd have trumped trump too.
http://www.trueactivist.com/jimmy-carter-the-u-s-isnt-a-democracy-its-an-oligarchy/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...r-of-slain-benghazi-official-to-third-debate/
So Trump is bringing Obama's Ghadaffi loving half brother and Ben Ghazi's mum to the third debate. I just love how the Trump camp think they're playing advanced political chess with the surprise guests when really it just shows how petty Trump is. This one just shows how flustered he's gotten by Obama's constant burns over the past weeks, Barry's got him here hook line and sinker. Hilary should invite Alec Baldwin in full Trump character with a pair of those novelty tiny hands and see how Trump gets along with that.
So Trump is bringing Obama's Ghadaffi loving half brother and Ben Ghazi's mum to the third debate. I just love how the Trump camp think they're playing advanced political chess with the surprise guests when really it just shows how petty Trump is. This one just shows how flustered he's gotten by Obama's constant burns over the past weeks, Barry's got him here hook line and sinker. Hilary should invite Alec Baldwin in full Trump character with a pair of those novelty tiny hands and see how Trump gets along with that.
So, in your haste to respond to his cherry picking, as you say, you cherry picked?
I would go with the vast majority of the blame goes to bush, given the warnings...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-directors-documentary-911-bush-213353
This is an easy one. If trump mentions the guests, she needs to respond with "you brought in a guest who admires ghadafi, a man that...list worst things ghadafi did"
Brilliant article. Thanks for sharing
Obama is bad? What's so bad about status quo, there's no war lately other than terrorist attack, economy is good considering where we are 8 years ago, geopolitics is quite stable at the moment, jobs are created.
Sometimes no changes is a good changes. Why change the good things. What would trump do? Cut taxes? Those taxes has to come from somewhere the medical bills ain't going to pay for themselves. Cutting corporate tax won't mean job, it'll mean the corporate are getting richer by bringing their taxable into the country while leaving the jobs back in china, and you're back to square one with a massive red on your book.
Sometimes no changes is a good changes. Why change the good things. What would trump do? Cut taxes? Those taxes has to come from somewhere the medical bills ain't going to pay for themselves. Cutting corporate tax won't mean job, it'll mean the corporate are getting richer by bringing their taxable into the country while leaving the jobs back in china, and you're back to square one with a massive red on your book.
The man who wants Saudi Arabia & Japan to get nukes?
She's the establishment and media pick, so naturally they'll do all they can to protect her.
And people wonder why wikileaks are focusing on her.
Wonderful showcase for democracy here.
Democracypartners went down the strange route of defending the people who explained the foul play. Claiming that they were somehow tricked into these hypothetical conversations instead of distancing themselves altogether. I sit here wondering how does that happen?
Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton supported a Saudi nuclear programme. She's as hawkish when it comes to Iran as the worst of them.The man who wants Saudi Arabia & Japan to get nukes?
Loved this comment
How is Malik Obama supposed to rattle Clinton?
This guy thinks this election is one big reality show.
What's to report there? Like with all those e-Mails, it's a non story inflated by some dumb hillbillies on Reddit. There's no direct involvement by Clinton, we haven't (and likely never will) seen the raw footage of those interviews. We don't have any implication of Hillary being racist, nom whatsoever. Why should you report on some alleged chef in a climate where the shithouse that is left of the Donald Trump campaign tries to throw every shit they can to see if some sticks?
A campaign that has been proven, over and over, to rely on lies, lies and even more lies?
Feck me, I have one night away! ONE NIGHT! and this place goes to shit and is now more like one of those batshit FaceBook or Twitter pages. Nice to see the usual suspects trying to bring some sanity back in and get control of it though.
Great post, and bang on the money too!
So are we going to take bets on how many more scandals are revealed before the debate tonight?
I'm going for 3. 2 for Drumpf, 1 for Hillary.
Great post, and bang on the money too!
So are we going to take bets on how many more scandals are revealed before the debate tonight?
I'm going for 3. 2 for Drumpf, 1 for Hillary.
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