2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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She looks and moves like someone a lot older than 68.
In terms of facial looks, this may be down to her not having had plastic surgery unlike many others in her age group, I've never seen her with a typical botox face either. She's dressing horribly for her pear shaped silhouette, and some colors are just very unflattering. If biographies can be believed, she didn't care a damn about her looks in her student years when she met Bill and hasn't really changed ever since.
 
Clear sign GOP thinks presidential race is done and dusted.


I think most GOP politicians have to take a bit of a punt on this. If they double down on their support for Trump and another video comes out like the one on Friday, then their careers are forever tarred with Trump's filth and they will have to live with it long after Trump himself is out of politics (as in 30 days from now). If they run away from Trump now, then especially house members may have to deal with an enraged pro-Trump anti-establishment crowd not voting for them on November 8th. So the best path for them is to ignore Trump, stay neutral on his political prospects and focus on their own downballot races and pray that no more tapes come out between now and November.
 
She's definitely had Botox.
I don't think so, at least not when I watched her or saw pictures. Her mimics reach every part of her face, I've never noticed that typical semi-freddo facial expressions (when botox is not used everywhere - just forehead or around the eyes etc).
Major difference to Nancy Pelosi. Boy she did look horrible yesterday in a post-debate interview, either full of botox or nipped/tucked.
Much younger, obviously, but this nuts Scottie woman, a Trump surrogate on CNN, is a horrible example of a walking botox vial with legs. More botox under the skin than muscles. Shudder.
 
Americans may just be smarter than I thought.

What's the largest margin won in a presidential result? Hillary should be close to reaching that, surely.
 
Neither of the two parties have succeeded in electing a president when their incumbent steps down after one term since McKinley iirc(death/assasination notwithstanding). If Clinton doesn't suck, she will have a fairly big advantage going into reelection. If she's mired in scandals without any achievement or the economy tanks then Dems are fecked in 2020 anyway.

It's simply too early to tell. 4 years is an eternity in politics. Papi Bush had 89% approval rating in 91 and by the time he lost in 92 it was 29%.


I remember, back in the primaries, when re-election and getting to control redistricting were the biggest prizes ;)
 
Hopefully Drumpf destroys the down ticket races as well, if the Dems can win control of the House and Senate it would be fantastic.
 
What's the largest margin won in a presidential result? Hillary should be close to reaching that, surely.
Google tells me that it's 26%, can't see her getting near that.

Nixon won by 23%, pretty incredible considering how recent it was.
 
Just watched the debate, Jesus that was awful.Trump is inacapable of answering a single simple question; Hillary at least responded at the questions she was asked but came across quite poor, especially when it came to foreign policy.
I mourn the middle east with her and Putin in charge for the next few years.
 
Nixon won by 23%? Christ.

Realistically, if Hillary win the national polls by 10%, you're looking at a potential EV count of around 400 - as in the final numbers could be 400-138 - the states to keep a close eye on would be AZ, GA, MO, TX, and AK. When national numbers move into the double digits, all sorts of states suddenly come into play.
 
Americans may just be smarter than I thought.

What's the largest margin won in a presidential result? Hillary should be close to reaching that, surely.

No one will ever beat Washington - 100% :smirk:
 

I suppose the good news for Trump is that the taxes aren't the top of people's concerns right now. The bad news is that the racist video, should it exist, is almost certain to leak.
 
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