2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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MrMarcello said:
Now that's proper Stepford wife material if there ever was.
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To be fair what else could she say? However, and this is what pisses me off, is that why are the press not attacking her and calling her an enabler for allowing and putting up with her husbands actions? Because that's exactly what Fox is doing now to Hillary over Bill's lengthy list of feck ups. One rule for one, another for everyone else and no mention of the hypocrisy.

Crossie said:
How would Carson know?

On another note, still backing Trump:
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I have no idea, but if I had to guess it would be because as I mentioned a few days ago, normally with things like this and using the UK press as an example when they set their sights on someone and bring them down. They start releasing small stories and then slowly ramp it up releasing more and more each day and bigger and bigger stories all the time until they either dump them all at once or go through a week of exclusives saving the biggest till last. There are strong rumours that the press have more and are doing exactly that, and I suspect Carson has some inside info or knows something that is due and rumoured to come out.
 
Carolina Red said:
Yeah, sure Dr. Carson, except that those rappers aren't RUNNING FOR THE FECKING PRESIDENCY
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'Cept for Kanye, obvs.
 
Why Republicans Are Probably Stuck With Donald Trump - Q&As by New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us/politics/gop-trump.html

More Than 150 Republican Leaders Don’t Support Donald Trump. Here’s When They Reached Their Breaking Point.
This list includes leaders who have said they will not vote for Donald J. Trump, have withdrawn endorsements of him or have called for him to step down as the nominee. People shaded in blue have said they will vote for Hillary Clinton.
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s-when-they-reached-their-breaking-point.html
 
MrMarcello said:
Sarah is one of the most delusional religious persons I've encountered. This from a woman with a masters in education from UGA.

She did one of those volunteer missions with a local church here in Warner Robins, GA. They went to to Togo if memory servces, circa 2012/2013. As she prepared for the trip should post nonsensical stuff about Africa, the religions practiced, etc. She would cry about Muslims attempting to spread Islam in Africa and in America but found no problem with spreading her view of Christianity elsewhere. I sort of stumped her on that when I quizzed her, "Why is it ok for you to spread your beliefs abroad but not for others to come here/there and do the same?"

She finally gave in, "Because I believe my religion (Baptist Christianity) is correct." I digress.
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I find it hard to believe that those kind of Bible Belt Christians have actually ever read the bible. I mean, it's largely a nonsense tome anyway, but the kind of mind that could read it and conclude the materialistic, xenophobic, gun loving, "every man for himself" America of the GOP/Tea Party was in anyway compatible to the teachings of a Palestinian hippy, is delusional from the get go...

Mormonism is mental, but it's at least a stab at 'Merican bible fan fiction ...you've gotta be pretty dumb to believe it, but at least you're believing in what it actually says. Believing in something dumb 'cos it's in a book is one thing. Using that book as proof of your belief in the complete opposite of it, is a whole different kettle of mental.
 
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Xeno said:
Very good article, thanks. Not sure of their political leaning but it manages to make Trump sound, almost, mainstream in his nuclear decisions.
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Seems balanced enough. Highlights a few gaps in the anti-Trump argument while still ultimately questioning his temperament.
 
Mockney said:
I find it hard to believe that those kind of Bible Belt Christians have actually ever read the bible. I mean, it's largely a nonsense tome anyway, but the kind of mind that could read it and conclude the materialistic, xenophobic, gun loving, "every man for himself" America of the GOP/Tea Party was in anyway compatible to the teachings of a Palestinian hippy, is delusional from the get go...

Mormonism is mental, but it's at least a stab at 'Merican bible fan fiction ...you've gotta be pretty dumb to believe it, but at least your believing in what it actually says. Believing in something dumb 'cos it's in a book is one thing. Using that book as proof of your belief in the complete opposite of it, is a whole different kettle of mental.
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They only sell the old testament around that way.
 
And on a purely political level all this stuff is a punk move from Pence. He is trying to distance himself enough from his running mate so he is still a viable candidate in 2020.
 
Speaking of Ted, rumours that he may be about to withdraw his endorsement (not before the phonebank humiliation though, magnificently).

McCain has just unendorsed. Colorado senator Cory Gardner has told him to step aside also.
 
Incredibly luck for Hillary or amazing planning by her campaign that this tape leak coincided with her own email leaks -
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/podesta-emails-show-excerpts-of-clinton-speeches-to-goldman/

Some of the stuff like -

“I mean, politics is like sausage being made,” she said in the speech according to the excerpt. “It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position.”
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.. would have played really badly in a absence of worse Trump stuff.
 
Oh and John McCain is pulling his support. He supported him after Trump belittled him for being captured and now he pulls support?
 
Crossie said:
That doesn't explain why so many, not just in the States but also for example in Germany fall for such populists although they have a bigger income than the average American or German, respectively, often coupled with an academic degree. That what amazes me the most.
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Disillusion is relative. Technically anyone with a good pair of cleats and an iPhone should be happy with their lot. There are starving kids in Africa, after all. But that's not how it works. The more prosperous a society, the higher the bar for success. The grass is always greener somewhere...and those who've fallen through the cracks can feel even more hopeless and bitter when the rest of society is flourishing.

That's exactly the problem. If people were able to live that life for real and not in their childish fantasy, they couldn't come back to 2016 soon enough.
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Of course. And that's why nostalgia is so corrosive. We're all susceptible to the idea that our formative era was objectively better than the now. Everyone gets to an age where modern culture becomes alien to them. It's the easiest thing in the world to tell people that they're right. That they really were better. And if you vote for X, we're gonna course correct history.
 
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