Nope. The SecDef can refuse to confirm the order of the president, but upon refusal to confirm, the president has the authority to fire him and replace himon the spot.I thought the VP had to be there too
Nope. The SecDef can refuse to confirm the order of the president, but upon refusal to confirm, the president has the authority to fire him and replace himon the spot.I thought the VP had to be there too
I can't believe some of you genuinely think Trump would use nukes. Yes by law he is probably allowed to use them but you can bet your ass that Big Business has enough power to influence Trump. And once again, Trump is not that stupid.
Every time this sentiment pops up something comes out to prove it wrong. I eagerly await that next piece of the puzzle.Trump is not that stupid.
It's not probably. It is definitely. By law the POTUS is the only person in the country that can order a nuclear strike. Why you keep insinuating otherwise is beyond me.I can't believe some of you genuinely think Trump would use nukes. Yes by law he is probably allowed to use them but you can bet your ass that Big Business has enough power to influence Trump. And once again, Trump is not that stupid.
The only reason he is still in the race is because people pick the thing they want to hear from what he says, nothing suggests he is bsing so this defense is just the worst.Don't take all of his comments so literally. Trump would not be allowed to use nukes and he wouldn't himself dare it either.
Common sense does. Nuking countries, building an actual wall among the Mexican border, give me a break. The guy is bs'ing everyone including his voters who are bizarrely stupid.The only reason he is still in the race is because people pick the thing they want to hear from what he says, nothing suggests he is bsing so this defense is just the worst.
And that kinda thought is how a certain someone won an election in 1933.Common sense does. Nuking countries, building an actual wall among the Mexican border, give me a break. The guy is bs'ing everyone including his voters who are bizarrely stupid.
Common sense does. Nuking countries, building an actual wall among the Mexican border, give me a break. The guy is bs'ing everyone including his voters who are bizarrely stupid.
The Donald is indeed a world class cnut
If you think he will nuke countries and build an actual wall I think he BS'ed you to be honest.He's apparently managed to successfully BS you well.
Yeah and 2016 is a whole different situation than 1933.And that kinda thought is how a certain someone won an election in 1933.
If you think he will nuke countries and build an actual wall I think he BS'ed you to be honest.
He's apparently managed to successfully BS you well.
Sure, history may not "repeat" itself... But it sure as hell knows how to rhyme.Yeah and 2016 is a whole different situation than 1933.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/07/donald-trump-and-hitlers-rise-to-power.htmlHindenburg and the German right viewed Hitler in strikingly similar terms to how Republican elites view Trump. Yes, they badly underestimated his fanaticism, which Hitler had downplayed in public. While they failed to anticipate that Hitler would launch a total war and industrial-scale genocide, they did consider him a buffoon. Alfred Hugenberg, leader of the German-Nationals, deemed the Nazis “little better than a rabble, with dangerously radical social and economic notions,” writes Turner. Hindenburg considered Hitler qualified to head the postal ministry at best. Hitler, in their eyes, was not a serious man, unfit to govern, a classless buffoon. His appeal, the German elite believed, came from his outsider status, which allowed him to posture against the political system and make extravagant promises to his followers that would never be tested against reality. What’s more, Hitler’s explicit contempt for democracy made even the authoritarian German right nervous about entrusting him with power.
All this is to say that German conservatives did not see Hitler as Hitler — they saw Hitler as Trump. And the reasons they devised to overcome their qualms and accept him as the head of the government would ring familiar to followers of the 2016 campaign. They believed the responsibility of governing would tame Hitler, and that his beliefs were amorphous and could be shaped by advisers once in office.
It's not probably. It is definitely. By law the POTUS is the only person in the country that can order a nuclear strike. Why you keep insinuating otherwise is beyond me.
And the man is crazy. I don't care how "smart" he may seem. He's nuts.
Come on Raoul, don't you think it is a bit naive to think politicians will actually do everything they said they'd do? I mean, we're talking about nuking countries here.Politicians run on the things they say. That's their bargain with the public.
I'm wondering, do you think that he is able to build the wall, hand the bill to Mexico and then declare war when they refuse to pay? It's a serious question.
I'm wondering, do you think that he is able to build the wall, hand the bill to Mexico and then declare war when they refuse to pay? It's a serious question.
Come on Raoul, don't you think it is a bit naive to think politicians will actually do everything they said they'd do? I mean, we're talking about nuking countries here.
The Huffington Post has made the rather reasonable point that none of the GOP raised an eyelid when Roger Ailes joined Trumps campaign. And that they're acting shocked only goes to show how willing they were to overlook his previous, similar behaviour.
See I'm not saying he is not, but are you really not seeing the risk just in case there's a 1% chance he is really saying the truth about nukes? It's crazy man, how did America come to thise?Common sense does. Nuking countries, building an actual wall among the Mexican border, give me a break. The guy is bs'ing everyone including his voters who are bizarrely stupid.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.htmlIf you think he will nuke countries and build an actual wall I think he BS'ed you to be honest.
To add to Raoul's temperament stuff, we're talking about the first nominee in history with such a low attention span and grasp of complex issues that he need a second security briefing, which is unheard of in Presidential politics. And a man who repeatedly asked "if we have them, why can't we use them?" in relation to nuclear weapons. He is dangerously stupid and doubting his ability to do the worst things humanly possible is akin to dropping your pants and windmilling for a honey badgerCome on Raoul, don't you think it is a bit naive to think politicians will actually do everything they said they'd do? I mean, we're talking about nuking countries here.
I can't believe that's true. Surely even the president must touch off.
Am nuclear strike must be more than even two people.
What would it mean to have Trump’s fingers on the nuclear button? We don't really know, but we do know this: In the atomic age, when decisions must be made very quickly, the presidency has evolved into something akin to a nuclear monarchy. With a single phone call, the commander in chief has virtually unlimited power to rain down nuclear weapons on any adversarial regime and country at any time. You might imagine this awesome executive power would be hamstrung with checks and balances, but by law, custom and congressional deference there may be no responsibility where the president has more absolute control. There is no advice and consent by the Senate. There is no second-guessing by the Supreme Court. Even ordering the use of torture—which Trump infamously once said he would do, insisting the military “won’t refuse. They’re not gonna refuse me”—imposes more legal constraints on a president than ordering a nuclear attack.
This comparison gave me a laugh. Its so true.He's an egotistical, unpredictable arsehole. I wouldn't give him the keys of my car let alone nukes.
No I don't think it's remotely feasible. But it's not the feasibility that is in question when Trump says things - it's the temperament of the individual. Likewise the same with nukes - it's not about whether or not he may or may not nuke anyone - its about the temperament and judgement of someone who even talks like that.
On who do you think he'd actually use nukes?http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-nuclear-weapons/485504/
The problem is that Trump has absolutely no idea about nukes. He simply thinks they're more-powerful missiles. To him, launching a nuke is like launching a bunch of drones in Iraq or Syria.
He's a deluded narcissist who has wafer-thin patience and skin. So combined with his lack of knowledge of nukes, the slightest insult will cause him to jump to the nuclear launch codes.
I think he will try to use nukes, but I think he's going to cause a Saturday Night Massacre and/or a Constitutional crisis (the troops refusing to carry out the order) to do so. And that's pretty bad too.
Syria's fecked for a start. Maybe Iran too.On who do you think he'd actually use nukes?
I'm personally finding the outrage from Republicans hilarious. I could have sworn they stifled wage gap legislation and were on a mission to close down Planned Parenthood across the country for years. Now all of a sudden Jeb "my brother fought terr'r" Bush has 2 granddaughters. Bitch if you don't get the feck out...
What on earth would he gain by nuking Syria and Iran?Syria's fecked for a start. Maybe Iran too.
Iran or North Korea jump to mind. He might use one in the Middle East (heck, even Ted Cruz wanted to make the sand glow and he got cheered for it).On who do you think he'd actually use nukes?
Like I said previously, to him, a nuke is nothing more than just a more powerful missile. So if there was ever a scenario where Syria needed to be attacked in some way, a nuke would be a logical weapon to use.What on earth would he gain by nuking Syria and Iran?
North Korea. EastSyria/Northwest Irak Area, despite its a non-state war and we have to rescue the people there from the evil. Russia also.On who do you think he'd actually use nukes?
Wouldn't going to war be more expensive than paying for the wall themselvesI'm wondering, do you think that he is able to build the wall, hand the bill to Mexico and then declare war when they refuse to pay? It's a serious question.
Spot on!There's no such thing as decent, righteous Republicans. They've been in this whole thing balls deep. The Flaming Dumpster is the symptom, the culmination or their policies, not an aberration.