2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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WTF is he doing? The guy is a fecking moron. He just can't help himself at all, and doesn't know when to stop. I really feel he is losing the plot, and think the pressure finally might be getting to him. Just look at all the evidence from the constant sniffing and downing of water and narky interruptions in the debate, to the stupid lies and bad judgement calls in the last week or two and the fact checking stuff from Politico. I feel it's all getting too much for him and hopefully he is just going to continue to combust. He refuses to learn or prepare and it seems even his new campaign manager and team are losing patience with him now. They won't be able to continue to back him up if he keeps fecking up all the time, after all, they have reputations to keep too.

Now I know many here don't like The Young Turks, but this one video here is a great view simply because it explains what Hillary was on about and WHY she brought up the Miss Universe contestant during the debate, it also shows Trump's follow up the morning after on Fox.



I like that for a couple of reasons, mainly because it clearly shows how prepared Hillary and her team were, and also just how fecking stupid Trump is. He just cannot help himself at all and hopefully this is now where he starts to feck up properly. I know we have been here many times before, and he always manages to either divert attention away or blag his way out of trouble or something else happens to distract attention away from his feck ups, but fingers crossed that doesn't happen again this time. He's certainly not doing himself any favours with minority or women voters at the moment that's for sure.
 
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Raging nutter Michael Savage has been pulled off the air! Cue the conspiratards. I'm reading all kinds of references to Hillary will pull the US into a North Korea style of enslavement. Shit is hilarious.

Oh wait, it didn't happen? It was just for a day by one affiliate? Well, shit, don't let that get in the way of some good 'ol right wing outrage - and we all know Savage is just lapping it up.

http://www.snopes.com/michael-savage-removed/
 
A feckload of new national polls have Hillary ahead - some were done pre-debate, some post. Not too many state polls - those should imo start rolling in tomorrow. Hillary is back up to 62.5% chance of winning, up 20 points from the grim 42% she was at this past weekend. If the new round of state polls show movement in her direction, expect Silver 538 forecast to rocket upwards in her favor.
 
Anyone see that Biden speech?

Just came here to post about that. I expect the next few weeks will see Obama, Biden, Michelle and I suppose Warren as well utterly smashing him in speeches. This was fierce from Biden:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/sep/28/joe-biden-donald-trump-federal-taxes-video

And the thing is, like @Ivor Ballokov 's tweet above, it looks like he's going to keep lobbing them talking points to smash out of the park. Will it make any difference? For as good, eloquent and pointed as they'll probably be, I feel so cynical in saying that it feels like they'll make little difference at all.

Edit: Full speech here:
 
Trump supporters do like a good conspiracy theory . A very unhealthy love of conspiracy theories.
 
Hannity has been told to stop quoting bullshit and meaningless online polls as truth and to only ever make reference to credited polls from reputable sources. :lol: The Fox hierarchy have warned him and spoken to him quite sternly about this according to many news agencies :lol:

Priceless, I wish i'd seen his show last night. The night of the debate he was just relentless quoting Time magazines poll and a few others, h and Trump both quoted the completely fictitious CBS poll too. The CBS tweet saying they hadn't conducted a poll was hilarious.
 


In 2-way for each: FL +3, CO +7, NC +4, PA +5, VA +6
 
Hannity has been told to stop quoting bullshit and meaningless online polls as truth and to only ever make reference to credited polls from reputable sources. :lol: The Fox hierarchy have warned him and spoken to him quite sternly about this according to many news agencies :lol:

Priceless, I wish i'd seen his show last night. The night of the debate he was just relentless quoting Time magazines poll and a few others, h and Trump both quoted the completely fictitious CBS poll too. The CBS tweet saying they hadn't conducted a poll was hilarious.

Here's the story in full....
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/09/fox-news-online-polls-228836

Fox News’s vice president of public-opinion research sent a memo to staff Wednesday reminding employees that unscientific online polls, which were cited in several segments to suggest that Donald Trump won Monday night’s presidential debate against Hillary Clinton, do not meet the network’s editorial standards.

"As most of the publications themselves clearly state, the sample obviously can’t be representative of the electorate because they only reflect the views of those Internet users who have chosen to participate," Dana Blanton, Fox News’s vice president of public-opinion research, wrote in the memo to the channel's politics team, which was obtained by Business Insider’s Oliver Darcy. "Another problem — we know some campaigns/groups of supporters encourage people to vote in online polls and flood the results," she wrote. "These quickie click items do not meet our editorial standards."

"News networks and other organizations go to great effort and rigor to conduct scientific polls — for good reason," Blanton added in the memo, which was sent Tuesday afternoon. "They know quick vote items posted on the web are nonsense, not true measures of public opinion."

At least three Fox News hosts, including "America's Newsroom" cohost Martha MacCallum, “Fox & Friends” cohost Brian Kilmeade and "Hannity" host Sean Hannity, referenced online polls on air to suggest that Trump won the debate. Additionally, a story on FoxNews.com reported that online polls found Trump to be the "yuge winner" of the debate. Hannity and Kilmeade referenced online polls in segments that aired after Blanton’s memo was distributed. On Wednesday morning, Trump thanked “Fox & Friends” on Twitter for reporting on the online polls.

Those online poll results are contrary to two scientifically conducted polls — one from CNN/ORC, and the other from POLITICO and Morning Consult — both of which reported that more people thought Clinton won the debate than Trump.

When reached for comment, a Fox News spokesperson noted that Hannity and Kilmeade are on Fox News's opinion side, and pointed to recent comments where Hannity, a Trump supporter, has said that he is "not a journalist."
 
Yeah, that's the one, it's brilliant. Sorry, i'm on my phone so couldn't easily quote the actual source. My favourite part of it all was this line......

When reached for comment, a Fox News spokesperson noted that Hannity and Kilmeade are on Fox News's opinion side, and pointed to recent comments where Hannity, a Trump supporter, has said that he is "not a journalist."

:lol: Fair play to Hannity though, at least he admitted he's full of shit and not a real journalist. Kellyanne Conway (Trump's campaign manager) was even funnier though, the stupid bitch said she was upset and didn't think it was the medias responsibility to fact-check things and print the truth. :lol: Orly? Obviously it's far better they just report bias and rumour and make shit up instead :lol:

You honestly couldn't make this all up.
 
Kellyanne Conway (Trump's campaign manager) was even funnier though, the stupid bitch said she was upset and didn't think it was the medias responsibility to fact-check things and print the truth. :lol: Orly? Obviously it's far better they just report bias and rumour and make shit up instead :lol:

You honestly couldn't make this all up.

Seth Meyer's line in response to her in the video that someone posted here was good, "Hey I'm just a firefighter, it's not my responsibility to put out fires, you should put them fires out yourself"..
 
Seth Meyer's line in response to her in the video that someone posted here was good, "Hey I'm just a firefighter, it's not my responsibility to put out fires, you should put them fires out yourself"..

Yeah, that was hilarious. :lol: I just wish someone actually said it to her face. That's the only problem I have with it all. :(
 
GUESS WHO



Gary losing the plot. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with all the attention. He is still be the best candidate by a country mile, but this elections turn into a wasted opportunity for the libertarian party. They nominated the “electable” candidate and ended up with someone who is looking like a clueless weirdo.
 
Gary losing the plot. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with all the attention. He is still be the best candidate by a country mile, but this elections turn into a wasted opportunity for the libertarian party. They nominated the “electable” candidate and ended up with someone who is looking like a clueless weirdo.

Trouble is, he's being seen as the natural go-to candidate for the Ron Paul crowd, but he has half the competency if that.
 
Gary losing the plot. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with all the attention. He is still be the best candidate by a country mile, but this elections turn into a wasted opportunity for the libertarian party. They nominated the “electable” candidate and ended up with someone who is looking like a clueless weirdo.

If he gets 5%, that's more or less a successful election. There's only so much a perennial runner can achieve.
 
If he gets 5%, that's more or less a successful election. There's only so much a perennial runner can achieve.

Exactly, the small blows to his reputation won't affect the libs later, and they'll have bigger federal funding too.

For some reason a caricatured version of Jill stein's views on vaccines do seem to have become common knowledge including within her target systems*; without 5% that's a double blow the greens won't recover from.

*edit: Voters
 
Gary losing the plot. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with all the attention. He is still be the best candidate by a country mile, but this elections turn into a wasted opportunity for the libertarian party. They nominated the “electable” candidate and ended up with someone who is looking like a clueless weirdo.

Agreed. Some people are good at governance, and by all accounts Gary was a successful Governor of NM. The national spotlight just isn't for him, and Weld probably wants to throw in the towel as his participation was more of an anti-Trump than about having a chance of winning. This will hopefully bury the libs into Jill Stein territory and release a point or two of voters back to Hillary.
 
Gary losing the plot. He doesn’t seem to be able to cope with all the attention. He is still be the best candidate by a country mile, but this elections turn into a wasted opportunity for the libertarian party. They nominated the “electable” candidate and ended up with someone who is looking like a clueless weirdo.
If he can't cope with the attention he is not clearly the best candidate. If elected he can't hide from the attention. He's also very clueless. Is he any better than Palin? Surely they could have picked better than him?
 
Increasing talk that a good number of Trump supporters who vote in online Twitter polls and comment on his tweets are emanating from Russian troll farms.
 
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