How should she have stood, leaned, or gestured to give you the impression that she exuded confidence ?
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How should she have stood, leaned, or gestured to give you the impression that she exuded confidence ?
Really? It was a passing remark on how I felt she comes across. Simple fecking as.
So let's ignore the obvious instability of the other candidate, a man who would attack another nation over hand gestures or his cavalier attitude towards nuclear arms. This country has a government within a government and a lot of financial interests in play. Elections don't solve these programs and I don't pretend to know the answers but I refuse to believe that the election of the trump family would be better then Hillary.
I get that bit, I just thought you may have a bit of substance to back up your claim. Otherwise why make it ?
She probably was a little apprehensive and would have had an increased heart rate as she entered the stage. But that's the normal reaction to one of the most important moments in your campaign, speaking to an audience of a hundred million people.
Cause it's a post on a message board that includes a disclaimer of 'Maybe I'm wrong, just the body language I'm getting' and not a psychology essay.
Ahh ok. A bit like...."Some people are saying Hillary's body language was off last night. I didn't say it, but others are all talking about it".
It's not a claim though is it?
I thought her body language looked off and it didn't fill me with confidence. So that's what I said. It doesn't need substance because it's not a fact, which I also said.
I'm not gonna go into every nuance of her movements for you.
Quite possibly yeah.
But what does the post mean though? How did he get that from body language?
Gotcha
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"Is it true that you killed Vince Foster in the library with the candlestick holder because he found out the dress with the white water was black not blue and it was you're body double dressed as Monica Lewinsky which lead to Sept 11 happening while you where Secretary of State at the same time you had brain damage Benghazi"
Not really, no. More like 99% of the posts on this forum that are not meant to be taken as attempts at expert analysis.
I don't know but if we can suggest Trump's a cokehead based on him sniffing I think we can suggest Hilary might not be all that self-assured based on whatever we like.
Republican
You're a bernie supporter right?
You've never felt a certain (for lack of a better word) vibe from someone? It really was as flippant a comment as that.
Don't get why I'm being accused of being sexist then asked to detail every single thing that's ever happened that's led to me reading someone that way.
Thanks, you get it.
Feck coming in here again
What did you think about the unhinged ranting 12 year old trapped in the body of a wrinkly orange at the next podium. Did his illiterate blustering put you're mind at ease in regards to the challenges we face today. I'm an immigrant who doesn't live close to a trump property so what should I think of this when it is plainly obvious he cares nothing for me.
I didn't get that far into it, which I mentioned along with the original post.
He's a fecking bellwhiff though. It's insane that he's got so far.
This is a silly dispute. We get all kinds of 'messages' from other people's body language without even being conscious of what particular cues we're picking up on.
Because he's got no clue?
Foreign Affairs - Putin love, Mexican Wall, Chinese Ban plus insults to other foreign leaders will make US a laughing stock in global forums.
War on Terror - I've no idea what or how he plans to deal. In all probability he'll antagonise American Muslims and make it worse.
Fiscal Policy - right out of a fairy tale. Reducing deficit, reducing taxes, increasing military.... All by waving his magic wand. What he's proposed has been backtracked or panned.
Racism / Anti Minority plus opposition to Gun Control is another disaster waiting to happen.
I can't think of a single area which he can't ruin further.
Maybe destroy is too strong a word, but he'll set advancement back decades.
Thing is, Trump looked way way less confident. Dude was still in his own head a good 30 seconds into their entrance. She established that she's there mentally as well as physically by the time he even opened his little repetitive mouth. Then there's the way his shoulders kinda slump downwards, even when his hands are in mid air. It strikes me like the body language of a 14 year old bullying victim.
Who said anything about expert analysis. The central point here is no one can say anything in this thread or anywhere else on the site and consider themselves exempt from being accountable for what they said - usually in the way of someone else asking them what they meant. That applies here, the Gen, as well as all the footy forums. If you say it then others who either disagree or are confused have the right to engage you.
The audit is only from 2009 until the present, so he could easily release his taxes for all years until 2009. In reality, he could release all of them even those from 2009 going forward, but he simply doesn't want to. She has released all of hers for the past 40 years. Trump volunteered to release his if she releases her "missing emails" last night, so the issue is clearly negotiable and he is just playing games because he has something to hide. Otherwise, no sane candidate would not release their taxes when being considered for the Presidency.
Entirely aside of what she says, to me, something seems off about her.
It's not really something that can be disagreed with 'cause I'm not saying something is off with her.
I'll be sure to leave such in-depth political insight in my head next time.
Absolutely. Suggesting they shouldn't have posted it if they can't give an explanation that satisfies you is rather different though, in my view, when it comes to something as trivial as this.
You were quite right to say what you felt, you just omitted the 2nd half of the equation - which is to articulate how you arrived at such a conclusion.
No one said they can't post it, but as i said, posting random things that can't be discussed sort of defeats the purpose of discussing the thread topic. In that case, why bother posting it.
No one's saying you can't discuss it. I just find it ridiculous to suggest the need for 'substance to back up your claim' for it to be appropriate to post it. In this particular instance, for the reason Will explained.
He didn't attack her on her big mistakes. Attack her on that and he would have come out of the debate looking strong.
He didn't attack her enough on voting for the Iraq War as a senator. The Iraq War killed 4500 US soldiers and cost them approx $1.7 trillion and they have nothing to show for it. That money could have been used domestically.
He didn't attack her for her foreign policy mistakes. She said she looks to Henry Kissinger, one of the most vile persons in the world, for foreign policy advice. She has supported regime change in countries like Honduras as Sec of State, decisions which were just baffling. He didn't attack her at all on Benghazi, which he's been doing while campaigning.
He didn't attack her for receiving money from Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries for her foundation. Saudi is basically supporting terrorists in Syria, something which started when she was SoS.
He didn't attack her enough on the emails. He was expected to hammer her with it. He also didn't attack her on her comments about the West Virginia miners. She says she's serious about fighting climate change, yet she takes money from the fossil fuel industry. She's also stopped talking about climate change after being endorsed by Bernie. Trump doesn't believe in climate change at all though.
He didn't attack her for giving paid speeches to Goldman Sachs for millions of dollars, a company which was one of the leading causes of the sub prime mortgage crises, which resulted in millions of people losing jobs in the US and all over the world. He didn't attack her for all her connections to lobbyists and special interest groups which she is a stooge for.
He didn't attack her on her 'super predator' comments as first lady. He didn't attack her on her flip flopping on social issues like same sex marriage, though it's understandable as he's running as a republican (lol).
He didn't attack her enough for her ties to Debbie Wasserman and the nasty things said in the DNC emails and how the primaries were rigged to give her the upper hand.
He is a very poor speaker and seems to lack brains. Can't believe it's come down to Trump and Hillary. Very poor uninspiring candidates. Elizabeth Warren would have been a joy to watch debate.
He didn't attack her enough on voting for the Iraq War as a senator. The Iraq War killed 4500 US soldiers and cost them approx $1.7 trillion and they have nothing to show for it. That money could have been used domestically.
He didn't attack her for her foreign policy mistakes. She said she looks to Henry Kissinger, one of the most vile persons in the world, for foreign policy advice. She has supported regime change in countries like Honduras as Sec of State, decisions which were just baffling. He didn't attack her at all on Benghazi, which he's been doing while campaigning.
He didn't attack her for receiving money from Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries for her foundation. Saudi is basically supporting terrorists in Syria, something which started when she was SoS.
He didn't attack her enough on the emails. He was expected to hammer her with it. He also didn't attack her on her comments about the West Virginia miners. She says she's serious about fighting climate change, yet she takes money from the fossil fuel industry. She's also stopped talking about climate change after being endorsed by Bernie. Trump doesn't believe in climate change at all though.
He didn't attack her for giving paid speeches to Goldman Sachs for millions of dollars, a company which was one of the leading causes of the sub prime mortgage crises, which resulted in millions of people losing jobs in the US and all over the world. He didn't attack her for all her connections to lobbyists and special interest groups which she is a stooge for.
He didn't attack her on her 'super predator' comments as first lady. He didn't attack her on her flip flopping on social issues like same sex marriage, though it's understandable as he's running as a republican (lol).
He didn't attack her enough for her ties to Debbie Wasserman and the nasty things said in the DNC emails and how the primaries were rigged to give her the upper hand.
He is a very poor speaker and seems to lack brains. Can't believe it's come down to Trump and Hillary. Very poor uninspiring candidates. Elizabeth Warren would have been a joy to watch debate.
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the so called "democratic" party (and its followers) really hate when someone talks against what they believe is the way to go.
You think its odd for people to back up what they say ? Really ? I find that incredibly strange, especially given this is a discussion forum, not a random statement that can't be discussed forum.
No. I meant what I said, rather than that.
EDIT - This is getting silly. I think I've explained my view.
I can't decide if this really will play as badly as we'd hope. I fear an awful lot of people feel that way.
That was an extremely one-sided debate.
Clinton came across as an intelligent, thoughtful and rational person. Trump started fairly well in the opening 15 minutes but soon slipped away into a sea of pointless ranting and unrelated remarks.
Clinton came across as an intelligent, thoughtful and rational person. Trump started fairly well in the opening 15 minutes but soon slipped away into a sea of pointless ranting and unrelated remarks.
Clinton will easily win this election.
Both embarrassments. America really should be ashamed for putting these two onto a global platform.
Biden was the ideal candidate.
I can't help but feel that Trump's candidacy is also a result of the ruined American education system.
Definitely a part of the reason, but there are no shortage of well educated Republicans supporting him.
Ted Cruz is very well educated, but he is also a shit.
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