2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Drifter said:
Trump supporters are so blind .That they don't see voting for Trump is voting for more Establishment
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To say that Trump is an establishment candidate is frankly ridiculous. If elected, he might be the first president since FDR (arguably Reagan) who could end up changing America in a radical way. That's why the entire US establishment is against him.

Since he has no political record, how pragmatic Trump might be in office is a matter of guesswork. But the campaign has shown that he's willing to maintain controversial opinions in the face of well nigh universal condemnation. Nobody will sleep easy between November and January if Trump is elected - least of all the Establishment.
 
Think minorities might have a harder time than the establishment.
 
Will Absolute said:
To say that Trump is an establishment candidate is frankly ridiculous. If elected, he might be the first president since FDR (arguably Reagan) who could end up changing America in a radical way. That's why the entire US establishment is against him.

Since he has no political record, how pragmatic Trump might be in office is a matter of guesswork. But the campaign has shown that he's willing to maintain controversial opinions in the face of well nigh universal condemnation. Nobody will sleep easy between November and January if Trump is elected - least of all the Establishment.
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The state of this post :wenger:

Sure, the guy who chose a Koch favourite, Heritage foundation puppet for running mate and has Roger Ailes running his campaign is a transformational radical.
 
Will Absolute said:
To say that Trump is an establishment candidate is frankly ridiculous. If elected, he might be the first president since FDR (arguably Reagan) who could end up changing America in a radical way. That's why the entire US establishment is against him.

Since he has no political record, how pragmatic Trump might be in office is a matter of guesswork. But the campaign has shown that he's willing to maintain controversial opinions in the face of well nigh universal condemnation. Nobody will sleep easy between November and January if Trump is elected - least of all the Establishment.
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No, the reason the establishment are against Trump is because he's a pompous, odious arrogant egomaniac who likes to target minority groups, and is someone whose potential policies are largely found on no fecking basis except for "making better deals", or just "getting things done". Trump isn't a part of the traditional political establishment but he was born into wealth and is a renowned media figure who has plenty of mates and cronies in high-end circles within America.
 
Cheesy said:
No, the reason the establishment are against Trump is because he's a pompous, odious arrogant egomaniac who likes to target minority groups, and is someone whose potential policies are largely found on no fecking basis except for "making better deals", or just "getting things done". Trump isn't a part of the traditional political establishment but he was born into wealth and is a renowned media figure who has plenty of mates and cronies in high-end circles within America.
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Perfectly said.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Monmouth GA poll, Drumpf 45, Clinton 42, Johnson 8.

Will be really hard to flip. Clinton needs to flip a lot of Johnson voters, half at the very least, to win. On the bright side, if she's within MoE in GA then she should be up in NC.
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Have you heard the rumors that Bill Weld might quit the Lib ticket because he doesn't want to be a part of something that gives Drumpf an advantage. Could be a game changer if it happens.
 
Raoul said:
Have you heard the rumors that Bill Weld might quit the Lib ticket because he doesn't want to be a part of something that gives Drumpf an advantage. Could be a game changer if it happens.
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He already denied it I think, although he's a friend of her, so I suppose it could happen. Plum cabinet job mightn't be too far fetched.

Isn't it only because Carl Bernstein said it on CNN?
 
Will Absolute said:
To say that Trump is an establishment candidate is frankly ridiculous. If elected, he might be the first president since FDR (arguably Reagan) who could end up changing America in a radical way. That's why the entire US establishment is against him.

Since he has no political record, how pragmatic Trump might be in office is a matter of guesswork. But the campaign has shown that he's willing to maintain controversial opinions in the face of well nigh universal condemnation. Nobody will sleep easy between November and January if Trump is elected - least of all the Establishment.
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Paul the Octopus could make radical decisions and probably would be a better president than Trump.

Radical doesn't always mean good. If ISIS means radicals in Islam, Trump means radicalization of whites (evidenced by support of KKK and Alt-Right people).
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
He already denied it I think, although he's a friend of her, so I suppose it could happen. Plum cabinet job mightn't be too far fetched.

Isn't it only because Carl Bernstein said it on CNN?
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Yes, but Bernstein wouldn't make something like that up unless he had an inside source who offered it up. Also, Gary Johnson was on TV this morning and sort of tap danced around the issue when asked about it. Instead of a strong denial, he started talking about something else then eventually said Weld would stay on. Hardly convincing imo. Now that the Libs won't be in the debates, I would imagine Weld, who hates Trump, has a bit of soul searching to do.
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/forrest-lucas-trump-interior-secretary-228364

Forrest Lucas, co-founder of oil products company Lucas Oil and an outspoken opponent of animal rights, is a leading contender for Interior secretary should Donald Trump win the White House, say two sources familiar with the campaign’s deliberations.

The Republican businessman, 74, is well known in Indiana, where in 2006 he won the naming rights to Lucas Oil Stadium, the home of the Indianapolis Colts football team, for a reported $121.5 million over 20 years. He and his wife have given $50,000 to Mike Pence's gubernatorial campaigns, according to Indiana state records.
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What an outsider!
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Paul the Octopus could make radical decisions and probably would be a better president than Trump.

Radical doesn't always mean good. If ISIS means radicals in Islam, Trump means radicalization of whites (evidenced by support of KKK and Alt-Right people).
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I thought he died. Not that him being dead would really make your statement untrue though.
 
Cheesy said:
No, the reason the establishment are against Trump is because he's a pompous, odious arrogant egomaniac who likes to target minority groups, and is someone whose potential policies are largely found on no fecking basis except for "making better deals", or just "getting things done". Trump isn't a part of the traditional political establishment but he was born into wealth and is a renowned media figure who has plenty of mates and cronies in high-end circles within America.
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That's somewhat harsh, but certainly no one could argue that Trump is a lovable human being. I'd describe him as a childlike narcissist myself.

But it's not his character, or his vagueness on policy specifics, that arouses the ire of the US governing class. It's his enthusiastic embrace of populist ideas which run counter to their instincts and interests. His support of protectionism, for instance, is seen as threatening the interests of US business - which of course it does - and challenging the consensus in favour of globalism and free trade which dominates both the mainstream parties.

In the final analysis it doesn't matter how many rich friends Trump has. Their support won't have put him in the Oval Office, and he's unlikely to ask for their advice.

If he wins, Trump will probably be the most dangerous and unpredictable choice Americans have made in the history of the nation.

Interesting times.
 
 
I'll wait for the mid to late week polls to come out as they will likely reflect Drumpf's calamitous two days at the end of last week including the Pam Bondi story and Birther presser.
 
Cheesy said:
No, the reason the establishment are against Trump is because he's a pompous, odious arrogant egomaniac who likes to target minority groups, and is someone whose potential policies are largely found on no fecking basis except for "making better deals", or just "getting things done". Trump isn't a part of the traditional political establishment but he was born into wealth and is a renowned media figure who has plenty of mates and cronies in high-end circles within America.
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He's also going to slash corporate and individual taxes which will benefit the wealthy much more than the average Joe and Jane. He's also going to eliminate/repeal the inheritance tax for his own self-importance, a law that will benefit less than 1% of the nation. The current law exempts the taxation up to $5.4M which is basically 99.9% of the country. This cut will only further widen the wealth gap and add millions to the deficit.

Republican wet dreams. Trump is as elite as they come and anything he wants to do/will do will benefit him first and foremost.
 


If true, not only will this be huge as he is still loved and respected by many Republicans, but Trump's reaction to this should be hilarious.

"Washed up old President who couldn't finish war in Iraq and left oil behind, never liked him much anyway and didn't vote for him either"

Watch this space...................
 
langster said:


If true, not only will this be huge as he is still loved and respected by many Republicans, but Trump's reaction to this should be hilarious.

"Washed up old President who couldn't finish war in Iraq and left oil behind, never liked him much anyway and didn't vote for him either"

Watch this space...................
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It's true. Slick Willie is the son he never had. The two families' close relationship is well documented.
 
prateik said:
538 now has Nevada going to Trump.
Squeaky bum time.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

The fact that Trump has a 40% chance 6 weeks before the elections is insane. I remember when he said he would be running.. Thought he'd last a month or two..
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Nevada and a few other toss up states are just statistically a draw right now. The only thing that matters is whether national poll numbers for either candidate move between now and November 8th (and they will due to the debates), and which candidate has better early voting, voter registration, and get out the vote ground games.

Oh and this is also helpful. For example, if Hillary wins Florida, its pretty much game over.

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langster said:


If true, not only will this be huge as he is still loved and respected by many Republicans, but Trump's reaction to this should be hilarious.

"Washed up old President who couldn't finish war in Iraq and left oil behind, never liked him much anyway and didn't vote for him either"

Watch this space...................
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Of course he would, the warmongers like to stick together.
 
langster said:


If true, not only will this be huge as he is still loved and respected by many Republicans, but Trump's reaction to this should be hilarious.

"Washed up old President who couldn't finish war in Iraq and left oil behind, never liked him much anyway and didn't vote for him either"

Watch this space...................
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This is what we call a synthesis. Hope for the sake of humanity that that histeric corrupt warmonger doesn't win.
 
Hellboy said:
This is what we call a synthesis. Hope for the sake of humanity that that histeric corrupt warmonger doesn't win.
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Yeah, let's hope the guy who doesn't know what conflicts are happening where, who insults veterans, who doesn't realise the US has a larger military spend than the next 8 countries and doesn't see why we can't use nuclear weapons wins.
 
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