2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Yeah, let's hope the guy who doesn't know what conflicts are happening where, who insults veterans, who doesn't realise the US has a larger military spend than the next 8 countries and doesn't see why we can't use nuclear weapons wins.

As if Clinton who actively participated in destroying states like Lybia, Irak and Syria will bring peace to the world. :lol:
 
As if Clinton who actively participated in destroying states like Lybia, Irak and Syria will bring peace to the world. :lol:

There are run of the mill hawks and there are Joker-type pantomime megalomaniacs.

Pick your poison.

Not much more to say there. Who ever said Clinton would bring peace? Pause for a second there and think about voting for the guy who's never participated in anything.
 
The fact that his children are joining in shows it's not an act. They are truly deplorable people.
 
Guy quickly started deleting all of his reddit posts, and terminated his twitter account.

Betrayal at Krondor fan thou...all's forgiven!
 
That Skittles tweet from Trump's son. Feck me.

Yeah, they´re not even trying to hide it anymore. But I think that´s what this mass of Trump voters love, no more political correct bullshit when it comes to their bigotry, racism, sexism, white supremacism, ethnocentricity et al.

And it´s what is putting the Republican establishment on edge. You´re supposed to be masking these ugly sentiments with their code words like "urban" "foodstamps" "states rights" "law and order" . . . and Trump has just come along without a PC filter. His fans love it, and Republicans are getting the candidate they deserve after so many years of racial and bigoted politics. And if the country elects him, this country gets what they deserve as well, but unfortunately so does the rest of the world.
 
That Skittles tweet from Trump's son. Feck me.

Yesterday Don Jr followed the Skittles post up with a Tweet saying that "Liberals love the First Amendment until someone says something they don't agree with"

I must admit I pounced on that one and sent a really sarcastic tweet back. The ignorant moron, surely he realises he just summed his dad up perfectly there? I simply asked how many times his dad had banned the press recently for printing unfavourable stories about him and why Big Don now only uses Fox because they are the only media outlet who still continually backs him, or why his sister walked out of an interview the other day. As expected the only reply was "crickets" They are massive hypocrites and genuinely disgusting people.
 
To say that Trump is an establishment candidate is frankly ridiculous. If elected, he might be the first president since FDR (arguably Reagan) who could end up changing America in a radical way. That's why the entire US establishment is against him.

Since he has no political record, how pragmatic Trump might be in office is a matter of guesswork. But the campaign has shown that he's willing to maintain controversial opinions in the face of well nigh universal condemnation. Nobody will sleep easy between November and January if Trump is elected - least of all the Establishment.

feck the establishment but id still take them over that crazy arsehole anyday.
 
Yesterday Don Jr followed the Skittles post up with a Tweet saying that "Liberals love the First Amendment until someone says something they don't agree with"

I must admit I pounced on that one and sent a really sarcastic tweet back. The ignorant moron, surely he realises he just summed his dad up perfectly there? I simply asked how many times his dad had banned the press recently for printing unfavourable stories about him and why Big Don now only uses Fox because they are the only media outlet who still continually backs him, or why his sister walked out of an interview the other day. As expected the only reply was "crickets" They are massive hypocrites and genuinely disgusting people.
It's not worth tweeting at anyone on any extreme mate, all it takes is one misunderstanding, or one twat being vindictive for your social media to become a target.
 
Nate Silver latest prediction is 287-251 for Hillary, which means that she cannot lose any state that he has predicted she will win. In addition, he has decreased her chances of winning from 60% to 58.7%.

Brexit 2.0, I am afraid that it is going to happen.
 
It's not worth tweeting at anyone on any extreme mate, all it takes is one misunderstanding, or one twat being vindictive for your social media to become a target.

Yeah very true, just found the hypocrisy too much on that one. I don't usually tweet much at all tbh, thanks though will try to remember that in future. :)
 
Nate Silver latest prediction is 287-251 for Hillary, which means that she cannot lose any state that he has predicted she will win. In addition, he has decreased her chances of winning from 60% to 58.7%.

Brexit 2.0, I am afraid that it is going to happen.

The reverse applies for Trump too.
 
If Trump were the establishment candidate, all republicans would be giving him their support, but that's not the case. He was not supposed to get this far.

On the other side, pretty much all the corporate world aligned to make sure Hillary beats Sanders, and now they gonna do their best to make sure Hillary wins. She is the chosen puppet for the next 4 years.


If you are pissed on how things have been going for the last 30 years, vote some independent, but voting Hillary is exactly voting for the establishment. Under this people hands (republicans and democrats), social inequality is at the worst levels in the US history. So is there any good reason to keep voting the same sell outs to power?


Like it or not, Trump is the closest to voting for someone outside of the establishment. (between him and Hillary)

There is this unpredictability about him. He could very well feck it up completely, or he might end up doing a good job.

With Hillary you know exactly what are you getting, and its not good. Not good for the majority any ways.
That is true, but the biggest problem (next to making Trump as the next president) is that almost surely 2-3 judges will change during the next 4 years. So it is essentially a vote on making a liberal or conservative Supreme Court.
 
Nate Silver latest prediction is 287-251 for Hillary, which means that she cannot lose any state that he has predicted she will win. In addition, he has decreased her chances of winning from 60% to 58.7%.

Brexit 2.0, I am afraid that it is going to happen.

She can lose NC.
 
Silver is projecting it for Trump already (same for Florida). I meant she cannot lose any state that Silver is projecting her to win.

But she can. If Trump loses a state he's projected to win. Or am I missing something here? :confused:
 
Silver is projecting it for Trump already (same for Florida). I meant she cannot lose any state that Silver is projecting her to win.

Well I haven't looked at it, but from the 287 number you posted, surely there are a lot of states she can drop and still win? Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado etc...

It's a pointless exercise at the moment. You will see it change again when the deluge of new polls come out in a week or two.
 
But she can. If Trump loses a state he's projected to win. Or am I missing something here? :confused:
Of course. If Trump wins every state that he is projected to win, and somehow wins some other state, then he'll win.

My entire point is that the election (at least from the polls) seem to be very close, not an easy win for Hillary like it was supposed to be only a month ago.

Her chances of winning in the last month have gone from over ninety percent to less than sixty percent. She seems to be in free fall, so she need to change something.
 
It seems we've moved on from the stage of people focusing too heavily on single poll results, to people focusing too heavily on single model projections. 538 is the most famous but there are multiple others, and 538's projection also happens to be the most pessimistic for the Dems. The Upshot has a handy collection of them all about halfway done the page here - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...s&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0

We're 7 weeks out. Polling is volatile. Trump had a good week of them.
 
It seems we've moved on from the stage of people focusing too heavily on single poll results, to people focusing too heavily on single model projections. 538 is the most famous but there are multiple others, and 538's projection also happens to be the most pessimistic for the Dems. The Upshot has a handy collection of them all about halfway done the page here - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html?rref=collection/sectioncollection/upshot&action=click&contentCollection=upshot&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0

We're 7 weeks out. Polling is volatile. Trump had a good week of them.

True. Both Sam Wang and the Crystal Ball folks remain fully bullish. (PredictWise is a bit meh though, can't ever trust the betting market)
 
A good thing though (from Silver's polls) is that in all states Hillary is leading, she has at least 2.5% more of the vote, so looks quite hard for her to lose any of those states, while on the other side, Trump is winning in some state with less than 0.5% difference.

Things can change though, and the momentum seems to be with Trump.
 
Every time you Google Trump, it always comes up with new bad stuff about him.

- Trump reiterates support for racial profiling.
- Trump Jr's comments on Skittles and Syrian refugees.
- Trump misused his charitable foundation money for his own legal problems.

Seems there is nothing that'd stop the Trump blind bandwagon.
 
I see, the goalpost is getting moved each week. A couple of weeks ago the die-hard Clinton faction was boasting about Hillary winning in a landslide. Then they silently adopted the line that she might not win by a huge margin but her winning is a sure thing. Now Clinton being marginally ahead is all that’s left. Each time we got reassured, that Trump won´t surge any further, because how could he? Objections, that things might not be all rosy were ridiculed. The impact of Trump´s gaffs are getting overestimate and there is a lot of spinning about everything that relates to Clinton (didn’t a certain *someone* argue that the health issue would help Hillary? * cough*). Now we are getting told, that the debates will solve the Trump problem and that there is a blue firewall. Well….it is certainly possible that he folds, but I won´t take anyone´s word for it until it happens.

I don’t care about her supporters, but now is the time for Clinton to panic or it might be too late. The whole idea about acting like a politician (“presidential”) didn´t work out so well, because people seem to hate politicians. Using the same silly and empty talking points might also be rather foolish, because nobody takes them serious anymore. It is not enough to look more reliable than Trump, when enough voters want change. She has to adjust her strategy, when there is still time to do so.

Maybe she should fire her campaign manager and hire one of the propaganda guys from FoxNews. They know how to throw shit.
 
I don't know if Clinton and her campaign team have the capacity to change from their antiquated way of campaigning. And with control of the press no longer controling the votes, they need to seriously update their strategy in line with social media.
 
She went down in the polls after she fainted. Not sure how changing your social media strategy will improve that.
 
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