2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Is Clinton actually any good at debates - whenever I have seen her she looks a bit awkward and robotic?
Debates are 26th September, 9th October and 19th October I think... Its quite possible that over the next month I think the trump could turn this into a proper fight...
 
sun_tzu said:
Is Clinton actually any good at debates - whenever I have seen her she looks a bit awkward and robotic?
Debates are 26th September, 4th October, 9th October and 19th October I think... Its quite possible that over the next month I think the trump could turn this into a proper fight...
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Not really, but she's preparing far more methodically than Trump, who's prep is informal lunches with Christie, Giuliani, and Ailes where they come up with zingers to use.
 
Silva said:
Not really, but she's preparing far more methodically than Trump, who's prep is informal lunches with Christie, Giuliani, and Ailes where they come up with zingers to use.
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that might not be the worst plan in the world from trump as i imagine a lot of people will not watch the debates and it is the soundbites and snippets that will garner most of the publicity
 
Silva said:
Not really, but she's preparing far more methodically than Trump, who's prep is informal lunches with Christie, Giuliani, and Ailes where they come up with zingers to use.
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Trump's ran a whole campaign that's lacking in details. Just generic statements with no how's or when's. I doubt he'd change for the debates. He'd just stand there and spout his vitriol again and repeat his campaign slogans and his supporters will lap it up.
 
Ubik said:
Well, it is...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...azi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html
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No, it isn't.

How are these young liberal journos so ignorant about the internet? Do they not understand the sort of power they're affording to would-be trolls, basically giving them a license to use a bit of photoshop to turn virtually any image in existence into a hate symbol?

The way the Clinton website presents the information as well.. as if it's addressing 6 year olds and not a fecking electorate.
 
Grinner said:
i think the audience will be huge.
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probably - but as with most debates the vast majority of those watching have already made their mind up - its those that are less engaged you want to get the attention of and its easier to imagine trump pulling that off than clinton... that may be a crass soundbite or mocking her or calling her crooked clinton to her face all night - but I find it hard to believe it wont be trump headlining the news, getting the most column inches and trending highest on twitter
Like him or loath him and Im in the latter camp you have to admit he is better at getting simple soundbites over - make america great again, build a wall, little marco, Pocahontas, crooked hillary etc etc etc
 
hobbers said:
No, it isn't.

How are these young liberal journos so ignorant about the internet? Do they not understand the sort of power they're affording to would-be trolls, basically giving them a license to use a bit of photoshop to turn virtually any image in existence into a hate symbol?

The way the Clinton website presents the information as well.. as if it's addressing 6 year olds and not a fecking electorate.
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both candidates are completely out of touch with reality. They are living each in their echo chamber.
 
Dwazza said:
That not just during debates, to be fair.
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indeed - the smile does always look a bit forced / weird / evil
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The question is why the Democrats chose Clinton. The Republican establishment tried hard not to nominate Trump - unfortunately for them the people had other ideas. But the Democrats loaded the dice in favour of Hillary - an obviously weak candidate. It looks like insider manipulation of an outwardly democratic process produced a candidate that nobody loves - except the insiders themselves.
 
Will Absolute said:
The question is why the Democrats chose Clinton. The Republican establishment tried hard not to nominate Trump - unfortunately for them the people had other ideas. But the Democrats loaded the dice in favour of Hillary - an obviously weak candidate. It looks like insider manipulation of an outwardly democratic process produced a candidate that nobody loves - except the insiders themselves.
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It was her turn and most importantly her RIGHT to be the nominee!
 
Will Absolute said:
The question is why the Democrats chose Clinton. The Republican establishment tried hard not to nominate Trump - unfortunately for them the people had other ideas. But the Democrats loaded the dice in favour of Hillary - an obviously weak candidate. It looks like insider manipulation of an outwardly democratic process produced a candidate that nobody loves - except the insiders themselves.
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I'd imagine due to her household status. A big, well-known name with a record of having been involved in government in important roles. Biden would've been the other prime choice but then he doesn't want it, and that meant it was going to be either Hilary or Sanders...and the Dems were unlikely to see Sanders as a viable option because of him being a bit of a leftie.
 
Is it possible for two term president to be a veep pick in the future elections? Just imagining Bush-Bush or Clinton-Clinton tickets.

Guess 2 x VP could go for president though (like Biden for example).
 
Mrs Smoker said:
Is it possible for two term president to be a veep pick in the future elections? Just imagining Bush-Bush or Clinton-Clinton tickets.

Guess 2 x VP could go for president though (like Biden for example).
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Doubtful, since they are next in line if the president bites the dust.
 
A bit why I'm asking, as The Twenty-second Amendment says they can't be elected more than twice. This way they'll still fill that requirement. Probably some other amendment somewhere? ;)


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Mrs Smoker said:
A bit why I'm asking, as The Twenty-second Amendment says they can't be elected twice. This way they'll still fill that requirement. Probably some other amendment somewhere? ;)
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I don't think it has ever been tested legally. The combination of the 12th and 22nd Amendment do in some interpretations prevent a twice elected President from later being a Vice President, others claim they do not. Probably not worth the distraction to the campaign for anyone to actually want to bother to try. I think Hillary mentioned Bill as a possibilit, but then mentioned she did not think it would be constitutional for her to have him as a running mate.
 
Will Absolute said:
The question is why the Democrats chose Clinton. The Republican establishment tried hard not to nominate Trump - unfortunately for them the people had other ideas. But the Democrats loaded the dice in favour of Hillary - an obviously weak candidate. It looks like insider manipulation of an outwardly democratic process produced a candidate that nobody loves - except the insiders themselves.
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Well she did get over 18 million votes in the 2008 primaries and over 16 million this year, that plus her approval ratings among Democrats suggests she's pretty popular with the base.
 
Mrs Smoker said:
What's the age requirement? Kinda silly that 21 year olds can't. If you're an adult, you should be able to.
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I prefer my POTUS candidates to be of a certain age, to have experienced and learned, fully matured (well Trump seems the outlier), etc. Thrusting young adults into the most demanding job on the planet is a recipe for ultimate disaster. Today's 21-year old can't maintain attention for more than four seconds, try running a nation and impacting the world economy.

And if all that fails, I prefer the other options to be fake candidates (Deez Nutz!) or write-ins for your favorite cartoon character or uncle, all more capable than a college-age fecktard more concerned with his/her sixteen social media accounts and whether to eat Ramen or Hot Pockets for dinner.
 
Ivanka needs a little practice with the promoters. Feel sorry for her to be honest.

Reading up on the plan, these saving plans are BS. The people who need most help live paycheck to paycheck and will pick food/bills over pretax savings which they may or may not use down the road. For those that get an account they will be hit with fees that far outweigh the pathetic interest rates that will be on offer. I believe the health savings accounts my companies have had access to had 0.01% interest with free checks(!) but monthly fees and crazy low balance and closing fees. Just awful. Also reading that richer parents will benefit the most so not much use at all. And he's been called a socialist for this.
 
MrMarcello said:
I prefer my POTUS candidates to be of a certain age, to have experienced and learned, fully matured (well Trump seems the outlier), etc. Thrusting young adults into the most demanding job on the planet is a recipe for ultimate disaster. Today's 21-year old can't maintain attention for more than four seconds, try running a nation and impacting the world economy.

And if all that fails, I prefer the other options to be fake candidates (Deez Nutz!) or write-ins for your favorite cartoon character or uncle, all more capable than a college-age fecktard more concerned with his/her sixteen social media accounts and whether to eat Ramen or Hot Pockets for dinner.
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Can't the voters decide if any candidate is fit?
 
senorgregster said:
Can't the voters decide if any candidate is fit?
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No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public etc etc...

Half of the country believe still in creationism. That's why it's a really terrible idea to let them choose who in charge of the nukes, alas.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
He has a huge ego but seems very charismatic, and basically sensible. Can see him getting quite far in politics if he decides to step in one day (governor/senator)
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He's appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher in the past - he knows his beans on politics and economy. He would eviscerate Trump in a debate. Cuban is the sly type that would get under his skin in both a nice, calculated way but also in a harsh, bullish way.
 
Blodssvik said:
The biggest problem I have with the deplorables comment is that his supporters and the bigotry don't just spawn out of thin air like nazis in Medal of Honor. They're the results of decades of democratic and republican failures. Except they don't see it as failure. They like to have their deplorables, uneducated and prison cattle to make the social ladder gap as big as possible. Status is relative.

Have you ever met a working class family from Alabama when you've been traveling? Many americans can't even afford to ever leave the country or even take vacation days in the first place.
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Trust me on this, the last set of Americans you would want to encounter outside America is persons from Alabama. Stereotypes and stigmas ring true.
 
According to Ivanka, being a mom makes her good at business. How does that correlate?

She's simply following in her father's charlatan ways - all about selling shit to the public. She's just prettier and nicer.
 
MrMarcello said:
I prefer my POTUS candidates to be of a certain age, to have experienced and learned, fully matured (well Trump seems the outlier), etc. Thrusting young adults into the most demanding job on the planet is a recipe for ultimate disaster. Today's 21-year old can't maintain attention for more than four seconds, try running a nation and impacting the world economy.

And if all that fails, I prefer the other options to be fake candidates (Deez Nutz!) or write-ins for your favorite cartoon character or uncle, all more capable than a college-age fecktard more concerned with his/her sixteen social media accounts and whether to eat Ramen or Hot Pockets for dinner.
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Of course, then you won't vote for such a candidate, I'm just saying they should be able to run.
 
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