2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Slimy/typical politician is what I was going for actually.

She's been attacked and dissected for every word she says, expression she adopts, clothes she wears and company she keeps for the last 25 years and people like you wonder why she is so careful about her public persona.

Odd.
 
She's been attacked and dissected for every word she says, expression she adopts, clothes she wears and company she keeps for the last 25 years and people like you wonder why she is so careful about her public persona.

Odd.

You're misreading my post. Trump can insult people because that is his persona. She cannot because as "the politician" that isn't something she can do.
And for any normal leader, insulting 25% of the country is usually a no-go.
 
That's a very high bar then. I'm fairly sure most of us have been overtly disdainful towards those we consider the dregs of society.
What she said is not the same as responding to 1 person who attacks an individual personally. Those are more likely to get a free pass.

Calling 10s of millions of people deplorable and racists is a completely different thing.

You dont get to sit on your moral high horse after that.
 
Calling 10s of millions of people deplorable and racists is a completely different thing.

You dont get to sit on your moral high horse after that.

What if it's true?

For the record, this has been an unforced error from her, but I don't buy into the notion that it's as bad as the 47% comment or Mexican rapists line. It's completely blown out of proportion.
 
she's doing exactly what I feared she might do, that is generalization and name calling of trump and worse yet, people who support him, instead of going after trump's actual weaknesses like, for example, being inexperienced in the political stage (i.e. has no political experience, hasn't held a political office, etc.), she's merely labeling him as racist, sexist, bought by the russians, what have you.

those mere accusations aren't going to bring down trump, whose campaign has basically been fueled by those who call him names (regardless of if all those labels are true for trump) so those remarks are not going to hurt the trump campaign at all. instead she's arguably damaged her own campaign with this move.
 
What if it's true?
trash talking several tens of millions of people on a "what if" is a poor move regardless.

let's flip the situation. what if trump called tens of millions of hillary supporters stupid, idiotic and can't think for themselves for supporting a "crooked" career politician. there would be an outrage (including bunch of green smileys) in this thread, and rightly so too.
 
I dont understand your point.. Are you saying pretty girls cant be deplorable?

How can a nice rack be deplorable?

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let's flip the situation. what if trump called tens of millions of hillary supporters stupid, idiotic and can't think for themselves for supporting a "crooked" career politician. there would be an outrage (including bunch of green smileys) in this thread, and rightly so too.

Exactly this.

We are seeing Hillary's true self emerge. Yesterday's meltdown is the reason her handlers keep her locked away from the press. That's why she does only the most carefully scripted, brief, and controlled events.

She is not a politician. Her husband was the politician, and he radiated comfort and connected with people by projecting a (manufactured) likable persona. Hillary has only won a single election in her life, and that was riding on Bill's coattails with the deck stacked in her favor for the NY senate. She lost her first real fight for office against Obama in 2008. Hillary's nature is imperious, self-righteous, inauthentic, and witchy. People see her as unlikable, wooden, angry, and condescending. All of that came out yesterday and we will only see more of her venom as she cracks under the threat of failure from the physical/mental challenges she cannot withstand.

This country is sick of her and she just showed everyone why.
 
Exactly this.

We are seeing Hillary's true self emerge. Yesterday's meltdown is the reason her handlers keep her locked away from the press. That's why she does only the most carefully scripted, brief, and controlled events.

She is not a politician. Her husband was the politician, and he radiated comfort and connected with people by projecting a (manufactured) likable persona. Hillary has only won a single election in her life, and that was riding on Bill's coattails with the deck stacked in her favor for the NY senate. She lost her first real fight for office against Obama in 2008. Hillary's nature is imperious, self-righteous, inauthentic, and witchy. People see her as unlikable, wooden, angry, and condescending. All of that came out yesterday and we will only see more of her venom as she cracks under the threat of failure from the physical/mental challenges she cannot withstand.

This country is sick of her and she just showed everyone why.

Are you for real? I genuinely can't comprehend if you're a WUM or you actually believe the monumental bullshit in that post
 
Nothing Wikileaks releases can be taken serious anymore. They are being fed by Russian intelligence seeking to influence the US elections so that Trump is elected.
Woah.. When did that happen? And who leaked that information ?
 
Woah.. When did that happen? And who leaked that information ?

There's an active Russian intel campaign going on. CNN just reported people in the intelligence community have enough evidence that Russia was behind the DNC hacks. They are also using their cyber/hacking resources to feed the information to Wikileaks. Putin hates Hillary and is doing everything he can to ensure Trump gets elected.

I'm looking forward to watching a woman feck with Putin in a few months.
 
There's an active Russian intel campaign going on. CNN just reported people in the intelligence community have enough evidence that Russia was behind the DNC hacks. They are also using their cyber/hacking resources to feed the information to Wikileaks. Putin hates Hillary and is doing everything he can to ensure Trump gets elected.

I'm looking forward to watching a woman feck with Putin in a few months.
There's an active Russian intel campaign going on. CNN just reported people in the intelligence community have enough evidence that Russia was behind the DNC hacks. They are also using their cyber/hacking resources to feed the information to Wikileaks. Putin hates Hillary and is doing everything he can to ensure Trump gets elected.

I'm looking forward to watching a woman feck with Putin in a few months.

I wonder why his TV network often uses the word fascist to describe Trump.
 
There's an active Russian intel campaign going on. CNN just reported people in the intelligence community have enough evidence that Russia was behind the DNC hacks. They are also using their cyber/hacking resources to feed the information to Wikileaks. Putin hates Hillary and is doing everything he can to ensure Trump gets elected.

I'm looking forward to watching a woman feck with Putin in a few months.
Well.. if the leaks are true, I dont think it matters if its coming from Russian intelligence.

So the whole idea of Putin hating Hillary and feeding information to Wikileaks to get Trump elected is based on some anonymous sources in the US intelligence claiming that the Russian intelligence was behind the DNC hacks..?
It might be true, but it sounds a lot like the conspiracy theories that people love laughing at.. if it came from the Trump supporters.
 
A basket of deplorables is exactly what Clinton might need to push her over the line.

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I hope she condemns her own supporters soon, surely she doesn't want the support of racists?
 
I wonder why his TV network often uses the word fascist to describe Trump.

Who knows - probably to flout the perception that they aren't actually promoting him. Trump has a significant pro-Russian presence in his campaign. Manafort, Ephstein, Carter Page etc.
 
Well.. if the leaks are true, I dont think it matters if its coming from Russian intelligence.

So the whole idea of Putin hating Hillary and feeding information to Wikileaks to get Trump elected is based on some anonymous sources in the US intelligence claiming that the Russian intelligence was behind the DNC hacks..?
It might be true, but it sounds a lot like the conspiracy theories that people love laughing at.. if it came from the Trump supporters.

It does, because its an active effort to influence US elections. The substance of the leaks takes a back seat when there is a nation state allowing them to drip to Wikileaks for the purpose of effecting the outcome.
 
Who knows - probably to flout the perception that they aren't actually promoting him. Trump has a significant pro-Russian presence in his campaign. Manafort, Ephstein, Carter Page etc.

False flag operation! That's also why Larry King gave him a harder time (enough to make Trump hang up the phone) than the MSNBC guy, they must all be in on this. When Trump wins, the 4 will hold a celebration together at Putin's dacha.


It does, because its an active effort to influence US elections. The substance of the leaks takes a back seat when there is a nation state allowing them to drip to Wikileaks for the purpose of effecting the outcome.

Just take a single step back and apply this logic to any other event...
 
False flag operation! That's also why Larry King gave him a harder time (enough to make Trump hang up the phone) than the MSNBC guy, they must all be in on this. When Trump wins, the 4 will hold a celebration together at Putin's dacha.




Just take a single step back and apply this logic to any other event...

Trump didn't know he would end up on RT. He thought he agreed to do a podcast with Larry King.
 
It does, because its an active effort to influence US elections. The substance of the leaks takes a back seat when there is a nation state allowing them to drip to Wikileaks for the purpose of effecting the outcome.
It will affect US-Russian relations.. even more so if Hillary gets elected..
But there is no way the leaks will be disregarded or be any less damaging because it came from Russian Intelligence.

If there was any indication that Wikileaks were making false claims after being fed poor information from the Russian intelligence , it would discredit them..
The DNC hacks were not that. You can argue all day about why Russia shouldnt be getting involved, but I dont think it matters as long as the leaks are credible.
 
It will affect US-Russian relations.. even more so if Hillary gets elected..
But there is no way the leaks will be disregarded or be any less damaging because it came from Russian Intelligence.

If there was any indication that Wikileaks were making false claims after being fed poor information from the Russian intelligence , it would discredit them..
The DNC hacks were not that. You can argue all day about why Russia shouldnt be getting involved, but I dont think it matters as long as the leaks are credible.

That's the entire point. They are likely not credible. Who knows what is real and what has been invented out of thin air.
 
Trump didn't know he would end up on RT. He thought he agreed to do a podcast with Larry King.

But that's completely immaterial to the point here: RT, including Larry King, have given Trump quite a tough grilling, while having an editorial line dictated by supposedly Trump's biggest supporter.
 
That's the entire point. They are likely not credible. Who knows what is real and what has been invented out of thin air.

I've seen a few resignations from the DNC, and not a single denial...
 
But that's completely immaterial to the point here: RT, including Larry King, have given Trump quite a tough grilling, while having an editorial line dictated by supposedly Trump's biggest supporter.

Its all a distraction. The Russians are deeply involved with affecting the US elections, much as they've been doing Europe by supporting nativist anti-EU movements, as well as movements in Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine etc. Its a fundamental part of Russian information warfare doctrine.
 
Here are some "deplorable" Americans...




1)deplorable people can come in many forms. Young white female blonds could be racist as they come.
2)please show me where she said ALL Trump supporters are deplorable.

Stupid mistake by her, she should have used the real number instead of the lazy half. Many people are saying, and you can find this on Google if you search it, that 49% of Trump supporters are deplorable.
 
She'll never win over Trump supporters so why not feck with them?

because calling people deplorable won´t win her any votes, but alienates further voters in the middle who hold some level of xenophobic ideas. Xenophobia isn´t some fringe phenomenon, but very much mainstream. You don´t have to be KKK to worry about illegal immigration, low-wage competition or increasing crime rates. @berbatrick posted the statistic, that shows fairly well that a decent amount of her own voters actually hold these views.
Do you really think that these comments help her to win over blue collar workers?
 
The way she, Podesta, Brian Fallon, other surrogates large and small keep doubling down on this one show that while 'half' is oversimplifying it, the whole thing is a calculated strategy to drive the narrative back to Drumpf's fringe politics.
 
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