Tim Kaine - killin' it in his intro speech so far.
2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins
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Wonder if Kaine can carry the Catholic vote for Clinton? Or will Pence try to muscle in on it?
i know someone inside H bombs team and he's a concern , this is not a done deal yet. and the donald will use it.
most practicing catholics are latino (i'm making this up but it seems close enough) and they don't rate mr cnutface. and i don't know that it matters anymore like some JFK thing.
She needs to let Bill do his thing. When I saw him speak he was fantastic. Over an hour without notes, intelligent, informed, smooth. He's an amazing asset. I don't see how Trump can attack him on fidelity considering his own marital background.
Throw in Obama and hopefully Bernie and we should be ok.
Throw in Obama and hopefully Bernie and we should be ok.
Kaine doing a far better job in this speech than some on here were making out. Speaking with charisma and is relateable also.
In fact better than Hillary.
In fact better than Hillary.
i hear ya , he just can't go rogue. and whilst he maybe able to hold off trump , there will be attacks. remember he helped hillary when she was beaten by obama
David Plouffe said he's seen the Clinton's camp oppo research on Drumpf and it's amazing. I don't know if he was bluffing or not but if he wasn't then expect some real dirts in the coming days.
Kaine really going for the Latino vote in this speech in Florida.
There's plenty already out in public about him that would sink any other candidate.
It's tough with Drumpf to make it stick.
I hope they do trot Bubba out. What could go wrong?
Keep it up, Americano. The legions of the left darken the land of liberty to the horizon, but they will not prevail. Remember the Alamo!
(Well, everybody died there, but we can hope for a different outcome)
Kaine's been excellent.
Thanks for explaining
So if the reality that Trump can't consolidate all the GOP vote into his ballot box and Kaine delivers Virginia and Florida, its an easy Hilary win?
The DNC will have Bernie, Bill, Biden and Obama all making speeches. I hope they don't feck this up. Stick the knife in.
You are making that up.
You're right it's not like in the 60s but if it's close then it may play a part.
Immensely impressed with Kaine's first speech. Top quality
He should've run for president.
Thanks for explaining
So if the reality that Trump can't consolidate all the GOP vote into his ballot box and Kaine delivers Virginia and Florida, its an easy Hilary win?
I'd say so - mathematically, its highly improbable Trump would win if he loses both Va and Fl.
She's power hungry, besides the email issue the Clinton foundation money used illegally, the fact she's under the Wall Street payroll, probably more but I need to go out
Aside for disliking her, why are many people scared of her and why does she have this heartless hardass a la Madeleine Albright perception?
Why does she not enjoy some of Bill's hippy make love aura?
You are making that up.
You're right it's not like in the 60s but if it's close then it may play a part.
feck it never let facts interfere with a story!
This is the caf after all
Thanks for explaining
So if the reality that Trump can't consolidate all the GOP vote into his ballot box and Kaine delivers Virginia and Florida, its an easy Hilary win?
It's done and dusted. VA and FL together are 42 electoral votes. Every states that have gone Dem the last 6 elections worth 242 electoral votes.
Kaine won't 'deliver' FL though, that's a stretch. He'll help, but the state will be close one way or another. It always is.
That was probably the best stage speech ive heard in this us election cycle.
Out of the 4 ppl on the tickets he is like by far most aproachable/relateable seeming by a long distance judging from that. Seems he has won over all of his sceptics and others as well based on twitter.
I don't see trump doing anything other than crashing and burning in one on one debates. He can't insult his way out of questions that require policy specifics.
Newest WikiLeaks email dump proves DNC officials colluded to secure Clinton nomination
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/...s-colluded-to-secure-clinton-nomination/#gref
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/...s-colluded-to-secure-clinton-nomination/#gref
Posted a link several pages back.
I'm a Bernie supporter and advocate voting for 3rd parties, if I was American and not in a swing state I would vote for Jill Stein. If I was in a swing state I'd decide between Clinton and Stein by looking at polling data on the final day and deciding if it's worth it to vote for a warmonger. In short have no love for Clinton or the politics she represents.
But.
This is nothing a 6-year old wouldn't have expected. Clinton was their candidate from the start. And the "collusion" amounted to coordinating some media responses when their dealings were exposed, leaking to favoured reporters and putting pressure on others, and speculating about ways to hit Bernie on religion (atheism) in WV/KY. I don't think they even hit him with that in the end. It's politics 101.
Bernie wasn't even a registered Dem so why would the DNC support him over Hillary?
It's not a very flattering portrait. I wonder how much play it will get in the press.
Should not underestimate his intelligence. He can also think on his feet and shooting from the hip. Ive also seen him be very charming too.
I despise his politics but his personality and aura is far more engaging than Hilary and Im worried that will play better to the gallery.
Dont understand, what is done and dusted?
I don't understand your thought process.
They were colluding to keep Bernie down -- Americano, 30 minutes ago.
He was there to be crushed -- Americano, 10 minutes ago.
So if the match was fully fixed ("my ass goes down") why were they illegally coordinating with the Hillary campaign to attack him 12 months into his campaign?
What happened in Pulp Fiction? Butch didn't go down in the fifth. He won the fight. Bernie couldn't quite win but he didn't go down early, he gave her much more of a tussle than her handlers ever expected.
Regardless of the specifics of "the arrangement", it must be of some concern that even in a party where superdelegates nearly ensure party leadership get the candidate they want, that Hillary needed to take these additional measures to defeat a previously unfancied 70+ year old shouty non-Democrat from a state best known for its premium ice cream. At the very least, the revelation does not flatter her or her party's claims to serve its voters.
The election. If the Dems win VA and FL, they can lose every other swing state and still win.
You don't see what Michael Moore reckons could happen - with Trump winning the rust belt states that tradionally go Dem like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?
http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
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