2016 US Presidential Elections | Trump Wins

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Obama was polling 20% from the moment these two were published in October 2006 -

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He was a superstar candidate and that was the sole hope of beating the Clinton machine. Her main weakness this time round is that she's seen as old at 67. Jim Webb is 69.
 
Ubik said:
I'd say there's next to no chance it'll be anyone but Hillary for the nomination. At this stage of the race for the 2008 nomination, Hillary was ahead but Obama was consistently above 20% in polls and the clear second favourite (and as a candidate was a level above all of them). This time round Hillary has a consistent 40-point lead and Webb is polling 1%. Sanders seems to be the opposition, but he's not going to win the nomination.
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Really hope not. Besides being an insufferable bitch, her age has to be of concern. She'll be 69 by the next presidential election ffs.
 
Ubik said:
Obama was polling 20% from the moment these two were published in October 2006 -

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He was a superstar candidate and that was the sole hope of beating the Clinton machine. Her main weakness this time round is that she's seen as old at 67. Jim Webb is 69.
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Webb certainly doesn't have much in common with Obama except for their mutual disapproval of invading Iraq. He does however have a calm demeanor and will be difficult to run against since he seems more issue driven. He will give her a good run for her money, and if he does well, may wind up on her ticket. If he does better than well, its not outside the real that he could beat her, since she is a bit wobbly.
 
Feck me, just had a look and Webb is 69 while Sanders is 73. Do the Dems not have a viable candidate not nearing/over 70?
 
You don't use it against her by going on about her being old, you do it by appearing young and vibrant, then let the media and its love of narratives do the rest.

Man of Leisure said:
Feck me, just had a look and Webb is 69 while Sanders is 73. Do the Dems not have a viable candidate not nearing/over 70?
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Biden 72 as well. O'Malley is a mere 52 though.
 
I think Hillary might choose Evan Bayh has her running mate. Long time Clinton supporter and popular former governor/senator of a red state.
 
Raoul said:
I think Hillary might choose Evan Bayh has her running mate. Long time Clinton supporter and popular former governor/senator of a red state.
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Was just going to ask about potential running mates in fact, he looks a solid enough choice. Julian Castro would seem the risky/bold option that I don't think Clinton will be wanting. O'Malley, Tim Kaine and Tom Vilsack seem to be the other regularly mentioned contenders with a good chance of it.
 
Kaine could be another. I think whoever she picks if she is the nominee, will be someone who can help her win a swing state. If she picks Bayh, she will do well in places like Indiana, Ohio, and Virginia. If she wins only one of them, it will make it nearly impossible for the GOP to win.
 
Would Scott Walker stand a chance at winning Wisconsin in a Presidential election? That could throw things a bit out of kilter for the Dems. Not by much, but enough.
 
Red Dreams said:
she only needs Virginia and it is a lock for her for obvious reasons....



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I agree she has a good chance there. Not just because of Mcauliffe, but more so because the northern population centers near Arlington are increasingly pro-Dem. It will be tough for a GOP to win it. But moreover, the Dems should be aiming to pick off a legitimately red state like Indiana to cement things. There is no plausible path to 270 if the Dems win VA and IN.
 
Red Dreams said:
IN is interesting. I thought Obama winning it was amazing. Would not OH or Florida be easier?
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They would, although FL may be a question mark since Bush and Rubio are in the mix. OH is a possibility, but the reason I mentioned IN is because Bayh is from there and a former Gov and Sen to boot. The logic is that if a Hillary/Bayh ticket win IN they will probably win OH as well, since IN is more of a GOP lock than OH.
 
Raoul said:
They would, although FL may be a question mark since Bush and Rubio are in the mix. OH is a possibility, but the reason I mentioned IN is because Bayh is from there and a former Gov and Sen to boot. The logic is that if a Hillary/Bayh ticket win IN they will probably win OH as well, since IN is more of a GOP lock than OH.
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And Missouri would be in the mix as well. With Iowa, Colorado and Nevada increasingly pro-Dem, they could have a pretty safe path to 270 based on mid-Western/Western swing states alone. I'm guessing the Repubs'll go with Kasich as VP for Ohio purposes?
 
Ubik said:
And Missouri would be in the mix as well. With Iowa, Colorado and Nevada increasingly pro-Dem, they could have a pretty safe path to 270 based on mid-Western/Western swing states alone. I'm guessing the Repubs'll go with Kasich as VP for Ohio purposes?
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Yep, i think Kasich may be positioning himself as a VP candidate for the likes of Bush, Rubio, or Walker.
 
Jeb Bush had a go at Trump and Trump fired back with a press release. Ted Cruz also refused to criticize his remarks, which is great.
 
Trumps supporters are a clear Cruz target. He needs that kind of momentum to get anywhere. He's probably really hoping that Trump gets forced out quickly.
 
The trouble with Cruz is in a gen election, he would be perceived as the most odious of turncoats to hispanic voters - a hispanic son of a legal immigrant who grew up in Canada and wants to deport illegal immigrant families in the hispanic community. That's why he will never get anywhere on the national stage - unless of course he completely switched policy, which ain't happening.
 
JustAFan said:
Funny but the article says it happened two years ago. He will self destruct and fall out of the running. Media loves him right now because his quotes will get attention but it will burn him soon
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Shit, I read it this morning before that update about the actual date it happened.
But it is back on!
 
I'm loving the Trump Show. Hope he stays in for another 6-9 months and bleeds their credibility to dust.
 
Jim Webb has made a very nuanced and honest statement about the confederate flag issue.

The racist don't need an excuse to do what they do. the flag was always a convenient rallying point. If not it would have been something else.

So they get rid of the flag. It does nothing to solve the problems that are still there.
 
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