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Just hope we get him!




it doesn't give you a "wow" when you first watch over the video, but after finishing the watching apparently he's the one we are really in need:

a linker in midfield who always makes himself available to his teammates around him and is capable to move the ball around.

we should go get him
 
Agreed.

@ravi2 Considering that Dortmund supporters on the cafe have said that Gundo requires Sahin to carry out the defensive responsibilities required by dortmund...why do you think Gundo can do it all by himself at United? Apparently he's lost his dynamism and tackling tenacity with the injury and is more of a playmaker at Dortmund...doesn't sound like a number 6 to me really

Schneiderlin would be a good option. Should not be too expensive and PL experienced. Plus would fit the role and age profile very nicely.


Agreed, perhaps Id better amend that to say if Carrick is out, he can do the job temporarily...but if we are playing a midfield 3 with Gundogan & Herrera then someone like Schneiderlin would be perfect as a CDM.

Ive always wondered why Schneiderlin doesn't seem to be on our radar.
 
it doesn't give you a "wow" when you first watch over the video, but after finishing the watching apparently he's the one we are really in need:

a linker in midfield who always makes himself available to his teammates around him and is capable to move the ball around.

we should go get him

Exactly he is basically like Scholes towards the end of his career but with more pace and legs. Just a very clever, neat footballer who can pass short and long with ease. He always seems to have space but can get himself out of trouble by dribbling or body movement. I don't think he looks a lot less impressive now than he was pre injury.
 
Really think he'd be an excellent addition. For the price mooted I hope we're all over him, I'd be confident of winning the midfield battle against anyone in the league with him Herrera and Carrick.
 
I would be surprised if Dortmund sells him to Bayern but then again, we talk about Bayern. Let's see who gets him but surely a brilliant player
 
It'll be disappointing if we miss out on him and get Schweinsteieger instead as Bayern are getting Gundogan.
 
If Dortmund sell him to Bayern then my sympathy for them has run out. Player wants to leave this summer, so force him to move abroad.
 
schweinsteiger would be a great addition as long as he's not our only central midfield addition. him AND gundogan would have been great. pogba and vidal would do, too. but him alone would be... eh.
 
Why would Dortmund intentionally sell him to Bayern when he has suitors elsewhere? Still, I won't give up hope until I see him in a Bayern shirt.
 
Not really bothered at all missing out on him. Nearly every Dortmund fan says he is not even the same player that was one of the best midfielders in the world in 2013, and that he has lost a lot of intensity.
 
Why would Dortmund intentionally sell him to Bayern when he has suitors elsewhere? Still, I won't give up hope until I see him in a Bayern shirt.

Why not when the Bayern offer is the best? If they really offer 25m + Hojberg, it's understandable and more useful than our offer. It's not like they are really competitors right now.
 
Not really bothered at all missing out on him. Nearly every Dortmund fan says he is not even the same player that was one of the best midfielders in the world in 2013, and that he has lost a lot of intensity.
I agree with that unless he joins us, in which case I'll disagree.
 
Not really bothered at all missing out on him. Nearly every Dortmund fan says he is not even the same player that was one of the best midfielders in the world in 2013, and that he has lost a lot of intensity.
wouldn't care either, better give Pereira chance to shine, he's good for that role and buy strong defensive minded midfielder like Schneiderlin, Gundogan wouldn't solve our problems with no6 position
 
Why not when the Bayern offer is the best? If they really offer 25m + Hojberg, it's understandable and more useful than our offer. It's not like they are really competitors right now.
And that'll stay that way until Dortmund's best players stop leaving for Munich.

And so what? Spurs didn't accept our higher bid for Bale despite the fact we weren't really their rivals. They still chose to sell him abroad. Same would happen with Sterling should he be put up for sale. Not to mention United would've paid more than Bayern and if they wanted Hojbjerg, they could've bid for him.
 
schweinsteiger would be a great addition as long as he's not our only central midfield addition. him AND gundogan would have been great. pogba and vidal would do, too. but him alone would be... eh.
Well I think Bastian would be the CDM cover we desperately need to compete with Carrick. We'll also need another #8 I agree.
 
The #6 role is more about passing range, incision and awareness than it is about defending, that is why Gundogan is a better fit for us than some of the destroyers being listed by people.
 
I disagree with the idea that we just need defensive cover. We're a possession oriented team now and, as good as Herrera and Carrick are, neither are world class playmakers.

That's what we really need. Someone like Gundogan; a world class passer of a ball who can control the play, dominate the ball and open teams up. We need that a lot more than we need a Schneiderlin type imo.
 
The #6 role is more about passing range, incision and awareness than it is about defending, that is why Gundogan is a better fit for us than some of the destroyers being listed by people.

Gundogan isn't a #6. He's best placed where we currently play Fellaini. I agree in that we do need another player to do the things you speak of. It's why somebody like Schweinsteiger isn't a bad shout to take over from Carrick for a few seasons. We need two midfielders, certainly.
 
German player goes to German champs, or German player goes to non German team that finished fourth.

This one is dead. Next.
You didn't say dead in the water. You need to say dead in the water.
 
I wouldn't mind some of Hojberg for us myself, who has been touted as a pawn in any Bayern deal. He's looked very impressive when I've seen him, could be Bayern ' s Pogba if they stupidly give him away.
 
If we dont get gundogan...

...can we please get schwienie?

...or schneiderlin?

...or...or...just someone around that area. Pretty please.
 
Not really bothered at all missing out on him. Nearly every Dortmund fan says he is not even the same player that was one of the best midfielders in the world in 2013, and that he has lost a lot of intensity.
Why are you believing what jan aage fjortoft is saying? About a fortnight ago he said Gundogan was going to Atletico or Arsenal. A month ago a fee was agreed with us, he's as random as a tabloid, seems to me he thinks if he throws enough bullshit some of it is bound to stick.
 
Bayern or Barca will get him for like £12m without extras. You know it.
 
And that'll stay that way until Dortmund's best players stop leaving for Munich.

And so what? Spurs didn't accept our higher bid for Bale despite the fact we weren't really their rivals. They still chose to sell him abroad. Same would happen with Sterling should he be put up for sale. Not to mention United would've paid more than Bayern and if they wanted Hojbjerg, they could've bid for him.

Bale turned us down - Real was his preference (favourite club growing up etc.). It had nothing to do with Spurs not selling to us. They would have sold us Bale for alot more money - only a fool wouldnt..
 
If Dortmund sell him to Bayern then my sympathy for them has run out. Player wants to leave this summer, so force him to move abroad.

I agree. This would be the proof that Dortmund has no balls whatsoever to resist Bayern's advances even when there are suitors abroad for their players.
 
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