I agree with that, we won't replace Carrick with one player but with two that's very possible. And Gundogan could be one of the two pieces.
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I agree with that, we won't replace Carrick with one player but with two that's very possible. And Gundogan could be one of the two pieces.
Just Bayern can ruin the deal. Otherwise if they arent interested or he doesnt want to join them, what i think, this one is as good as done. I still think he would prefer a move away from the Bundesliga. Doesnt seem the type to go to Bayern from BvB.
He looked a little heavy this season, but with a good preseason he could get back to his best.
Or Pep brings with him Bayern's list of targets to City. We need to close this one ASAP before people like Klopp and Pep move clubs.
Much like Depay, we have this one in the bag and it's only a matter of time before the club decides to let the world know.
Considering he's not extending his contract which ends next year, I'd say they would be quite desperate if they want to make a profit. Considering the other names being mentioned in relation to him, I think we have the upper hand. Can't see Dortmund being keen on selling him to a competitor.
Just because the most recent transfer we've announced has been similarly reported in the media doesn't mean it will turn out the same way. Unless you know something we don't, of course..
That ability to control the tempo of the game is what i want the most for our next CM signing.
I just saw that the article comes from Duncan Castles from The Times who has supposedly been a bit of a wind-up merchant with Utd transfer Rumours in recent times so I wouldn't count your chickens on this one just yet
He is just reporting what has been reported for a while in fairness. I think Clyne is 95% certain to join as it has been going on all season. Gundogen we will have to see. Auto correct just turned Gundogan into 'fund oven'!
I think we have an agreement with Gundogan but not with Dortmund yet. I think we'll wait for the season to end before we actually go to Dortmund with a formal offer and close the deal.
It will happen though in my eyes especially as Van Gaal said he doesn't like to sign players while the season is still going on as it can disrupt and effect the players.
It will happen though in my eyes especially as Van Gaal said he doesn't like to sign players while the season is still going on as it can disrupt and effect the players.
Remember me when it's confirmed.
Bit unfair to compare Gundogan to Falcao so soon....
Like Gundogan, good little player. Not sure he's what we (or Aresenal who he also gets linked with) need. Would prefer Vidal or Pogba at the minute I think.
Gundogan does not exclude the signing of any of the players you mentioned. On top of that Gundogan is actually available and will be much cheaper.
Going to be frustrating if we get a shadow of gundogan, chelsea get koke and city get pogba. We're meant to be the team with the spending power, does gundogan not seem a bit like a cut price bargain?
IF we sign him I doubt he'll be our only midfield reinforcement. Hypothetically there's no reason why we wouldn't be able to buy him and Pogba with plenty to spare for a right back.
Yeah there's no chance we aren't signing a proper holding midfielder.
I think we need numbers anyway. Right now we have just Carrick, Blind and Herrera who are proper CMs.
I'm not so sure. LVG has made it clear that he wants a CM and gundogan seems to be the one we're linked with by far the most.
it's all well and good saying that fellaini isn't a 'proper cm' but when LVG is constantly playing him there and even saying that he's undroppable in interviews, the fact that you don't consider him one of our 3 midfielders becomes irrelevant
It doesn't really matter which transfers the media pick up on. LVG has just ranted about needing another defensive midfielder with carrick being 200 years old. Gundogan at his best was about as good as Xavi defensively and not a defensive midfielder. We will sign one for sure.
Very goodI don't know which team you've been watching but we've been playing with two players you can consider central midfielders these days, and Fellaini isn't playing in them. If you want to consider the position Fellaini is playing as a proper central midfielder then fine but I don't think that position is relevant to the discssion were having. It's too far forward IMO.
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True but there hasn't been any indication that we won't be signing more than one midfielder. As @amolbhatia100 pointed out when you actually evaluate our midfield situation, we are looking pretty thin. I'm sure LVG doesn't see Rooney as a long term midfielder and Carrick will be playing less and less.
Fellaini is only playing because creatively and physically we are light in central areas - a situation a manager of LVG's status will surely be looking to remedy in the summer. Carrick is aging and as a result is now injury prone, Blind hasn't played well in the last few months and Herrera has no cover. We definitely need two midfielders.
Agree with this. Any two of Vidal, Schneiderlin, and Gundogan would do nicely.
Last year of his contract and out of form. Pound is strong against the Euro.
His price should be low, and with the numbers of players we need to get in, a few shrewd punts like him and Clyne are needed.
His price should be low, and with the numbers of players we need to get in, a few shrewd punts like him and Clyne are needed.
He'd be an underwhelming signing IMO.
A lot of the papers I read imply that gundogan is the deep midfielder that LVG refers to as cover for carrick. What defensive cm is he gonna sign? Hopefully that's not what people are suggesting pogba is?
LvG stated earlier that he wanted a creative midfielder.
Lately he has said something along the lines of wanting a DM as well.
that's true, but they were also the days that herrera didn't get a sniff.
I just amen't sure that we'll sign two world class 25m + CMs, but we'll see whos right, me or everyone saying that we will
I'm not thinking we will or saying that we won't.
But it seems we will be looking for two midfielders, which is essentially what matters for me at the moment.
With Clyne reportedly close to an agreement and Depay already agreed for, i think most of us are looking forward to a CB & some midfielder(s) before looking at a striker and then we're perfectly fine.
Of course, the likeliness of us getting everything we want and then get it to gel immediately is not high, but we're muppets at heart after all.
If we sign him, I'm banking on LvG and staff knowing something about him that the rest of us don't - namely that they anticipate him back to his best.
Well I'm coming from a different angle. I'm not going to be as happy next season if we try and fail to get our targets. We accomplished very little last summer for all the money we spent, the most effective players are de gea, carrick, smalling, fellaini and ashley young. They won us all the points this season.
We have LVG for two more seasons and we need to strike while the iron is hot, we're in the CL and have the most money of the english club, I will be pissed off next season if chelsea have koke, city have pogba and we have gundogan on the bench with weak vertibrae.
I'm less worried about strikers as rooney will be number 1 again next season and we'll play 1 striker. But I think its a good opportunity to buy the best young CBs and CMs in the world and i will be disappointing if rivals beat us to them
Same.
For me he takes Fellainis spot in the team
That's what I think too. Him, Shaw and Depay could form a sexy triangle.
He is coming back from a long lay off but I'm sure that a good preseason and a fresh challenge could help him recapture something close to his best form. The amounts being touted make it a risk worth taking too unlike spending forty million pounds on a has been 29yr old striker.
But for us to achieve the sort of balance we need it's imperative that he is not our only midfield signing. We also need Carrick's successor and we need to do so this summer. Schneiderlin would be my pick but I wouldn't mind Kondogbia too, haven't seen much of Cavalho this season to make an informed decision on him.
I think he'd be a good gamble to take for £20m or lower, he's only 24 and was superb before the injury and the weight gain. That being said, I presumed Van Gaal and his staff were sure Falcao would be fine and he's been shite all season.
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