İlkay Gündoğan

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What are we doing buying players in April? Will ruin Muppet season.

Also, would nobody be worried buying a player who has played 29 games in 2 years?
 
I know he has had his injury problems, but 20m in todays money gets you very little in terms of players.

People say he is in his last year of his contract so 22m is to much, yet I assume these same people are expecting us to get 40m+ for De Gea to...
 
This a tad bit early.

Pre injury Gundogan was one of the best midfielders in the world. Risk worth taking IMO. And he is rather young still.
 
One of the best midfielders in the world 2 years ago. Did not play for a year, comes back this season and is playing okay, quite good actually considering the fact that he did not train or play for a whole fecking season.

It is not beyond imagination that he might return to his best, and let's not forget that he is still only 24.
 
Yeah, I'd agree with that (for multiple reasons).

I just hope he doesn't end up at City.

If Toure leaves, and they don't sign Pogba, they'll struggle next season.

That MF is weak.
 
Just seen the redcafe tweet. Contract to be signed at the weekend? I'm confused. When does the transfer window open?!

Think/presume players can sign contracts whenever, just can't register with the club till the window opens.
 
Just seen the redcafe tweet. Contract to be signed at the weekend? I'm confused. When does the transfer window open?!
9th of June as far as i know but it doesn't really matter. Clubs do business as early as possible and it becomes official once the window opens.
 
You can officially sign a player at any time, no? They just can't join until the window opens.
 
Feck him. Gundogan in 12-13 season has been far better than Pogba has ever been. He was 22 back then, as old as Pogba is right now.

F83k you!! Pogba got more potential than Gundogan. Hopefully we get both.
 
Fantastic news, was quite disappointed when the news around him coming to us went quiet these past few weeks. Sounds like a done dealio as well.

£20m is hardly anything for a player of his ability and if he doesn't get back to old Gundogan standards then he will still be a quality back up. Plus if he is a total flop your not going to be making too much of a loss...£5-£10m. I'm sure he will be quality though.

Our first German player I think.

If he is good, he is German. If he is bad he is Turkish... :cool:
 
He could sign a contract with United but keep playing for Dortmund? What happens if the two clubs play each other?
Pretty sure he will sign a contract that starts in, say, July. Of course then he can no longer play for Dortmund and will be our player.
That's how I guess it will be, anyway.
 
He could sign a contract with United but keep playing for Dortmund? What happens if the two clubs play each other?
Shhhh, they won't this season so my bubble remains unburst.
 
Links to decent youtube compilations please... we need to flood those with welcome messages.
 
F83k you!! Pogba got more potential than Gundogan. Hopefully we get both.
He is taller for sure. And more flamboyant. And has a better shoot.

More potential, I don't know. Maybe. But I don't think that anyone can argue that Gundogan on 2012-2013 wasn't a better player than Pogba now (both at the age of 22).
 
He could sign a contract with United but keep playing for Dortmund? What happens if the two clubs play each other?

Didn't that happen, or at least had the potential to happen when Dortmund played Bayern in the final of the CL after it had been confirmed Gotze was going to move to Munich. I don't think anything would happen.
 
Pretty sure he will sign a contract that starts in, say, July. Of course then he can no longer play for Dortmund and will be our player.
That's how I guess it will be, anyway.
He could sign a contract with United but keep playing for Dortmund? What happens if the two clubs play each other?

The contract doesnt start til July - He can carry on his normal ways til then. Have you guys never moved jobs in normal life?
 
Wait what, this is actually happening?

I've been purposely ignoring this thread thinking its just some cheap retrospective muppet love in.
 
Is it too cheeky to ask for a title change?
 
This almost feels wrong. It shouldn't be happening. What the feck. I'm confused. It's April. It's not muppet season yet.
 
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This would be a brilliant signing given the price tag, provided Van Gaal and the club doctors are satisfied by his medical reports. Sealing up the deal by pre-season would be ideal, then we can allow him some time to bed in, get him on a club regulated fitness regimen and assess the progress periodically. We have to consider that back injuries can be kind of debilitating for footballers who are used to consuming high calorie diets. Subtract the usual amount of training and match day rigors because of the back concerns, and it's no surprise that he ballooned up so quickly. Gundogan just has a naturally beefy figure and it's not necessarily a bad thing. These same issues cropped up with Shaw and Rooney, and it's kind of unwarranted. All that matters is performance on the field, not every player has to be shredded.

Anyway, if we had bring him along slowly and rebuild some of the drive and stamina he evidenced at his peak, then we could potentially have one of the Top 5 young-ish central midfielders at the club. He really has it all in his box. Combined with Herrera and Carrick, he would make United's midfield the best in the league. One thing to really like about Gundogan is his positional flexibility. He has played at #10 for Dortmund ahead of Sahin and Bender, in a midfield duo with Bender and in a pivot role with Sahin. He could be an upgrade in Fellaini's current position and bring some added creativity, or in Herrera's position freeing Ander to roam further up the pitch, or even in Carrick's current role (he'll have to brush up some of his positioning flaws, but Van Gaal can coach him up and he will have a good mentor in Carrick, who made a transition to that position). Also, his Sir Bobby-esque ambidexterous (ambipedal ?) style of play is very aesthetically pleasing and makes him a dangerous proposition in passing positions.
 
He could sign a contract with United but keep playing for Dortmund? What happens if the two clubs play each other?
He would sign a contract that starts in June or July, players can sign contracts with clubs throughout the year but they can only be registered for competitions during the January and summer transfer windows.
 
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