Óliver Torres - Another Spanish Midfield Maestro

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Agree with alot of this. I'd add Tom Thorpe...who I think looks very classy. I agree with what you say about Mats as well...shifted out wide doesn't do a hell of alot for him. Pearson really is a very clever little player...good vision but never afraid to do the scrappy things.

Pereira has found things harder going than his youtube video compilation but you can see what quality he has. He really could kick on in the next year or two. I tend to et carried away with things...but part of me would love to see what some of these lads could do in a first team environment...not all thrown in together in a CC game...but playing alongside real quality.

It wont happen, and there are many reasons it wont...very good ones. Still curious mind.

Yes, I completely forgot about Thorpe, definitely a strong prospect.

I'm the same, it's hard not to get carried away when watching these lads in form. I think there's an unfair trend of assuming that if a kid doesn't make it at United, he was never actually as good as those who watched him suggested. In fact, I think at least 50% of whether a youngster makes it or not is down to factors out of their control. It is certainly not the case, as plenty would argue, that 'if you're good enough, you make it.'

Which is one of the reasons I'm really glad we got Moyes. This generation of youngsters has the potential to define the next era at the club in a similar way to Barca's golden generation. But it will only happen if we actually risk playing them, and choosing them over older players at times even if it costs us in the short term. I shudder to think how much potential would have simply been flushed down the drain if we'd gone for Mourinho (and I have to admit I was one of those who put him just above Moyes on my list). Imagine if he'd been allowed to oversee the era at Barca just as Messi, Iniesta, Busquets, Xavi etc were coming through. They might never have made it at Barca, and worse still they might never have become anywhere near the players they are now.

It's why it's so important for someone like Oliver Torres to stay put for at least a couple of seasons. A bigger team will do nothing for him right now. What he needs is uninterrupted first team football.
 
Please Balague say we are signing Torres from Atletico Madrid... Again :drool:
 
Not an emphatic denial from Cerezo but there were rumours that the Villa deal to Atletico included a first option on Torres for Barcelona
 
Would def be a good alternative if we miss out on Thiago but he wouldn't be able to improve our team straight away, maybe in 2-3 years though.
He'd probably be an upgrade on Anderson and perhaps Cleverley straightaway.
 
Nah, he's undoubtedly got more ability, but he's not ready for the physical challenge of playing in the PL just yet (in terms of the pace of the game as well as the 'Stokes' of the league).
 
Neither is or will ever be Anderson.
 
Unfortunately torres will never ever play for man utd so we'll have to hope that nick powell can make the grade....torress would not be ready for a team like utd for another couple of years and then he'll sign for barca when he is ready to move....lets move on to another more realistic target now
 
Apparently Jorge Mendes' investment fund now own a slice of him. For better or worse, but certainly adding a little extra edge to any future transfer.
 
Apparently Jorge Mendes' investment fund now own a slice of him. For better or worse, but certainly adding a little extra edge to any future transfer.

Has Moyes ever bought anything from Mendes? Fergie is the one with the relationship with Mendes. We can have our own Technical Director: SAF
 
Would piss me off if clubs were swarming in for him already. He's barely played any first team football and is only 18.
 
Would piss me off if clubs were swarming in for him already. He's barely played any first team football and is only 18.


The chances are that Mendes buying a slice means that Atletico will hold onto him for a couple of years while the fee builds up.
 
Would piss me off if clubs were swarming in for him already. He's barely played any first team football and is only 18.


Nothing new really, up & coming talents always have a host of clubs hot on their trail of development. And Torres looks the most impressive young midfielder in his age group in Spain.

Certainly would make the Villa deal more understandable. Between him & Denis Suarez, would be great players to build on going forward - especially if Samper makes the transition into Busquets' role too. A good 2-3 years from now, of course.
 
Just a little sidenote. His entourage have apparently let it be known that he is not committed to Barcelona and was not part of the Villa deal.

There's also no expectation that he'll leave Atletico this summer. In common with other prospects owned by the investment group that part owns him, they're happy to see him spend another year playing for a team where he'll get games and will be appearing on TV in the CL. Fattening him up for market.
 
His technique and close control are incredible, I really hope we are considering him. He's tiny but so are Xavi and Iniesta, You can't know for certain how he would fare in the premier league but he does look the business right now.
 
His technique and close control are incredible, I really hope we are considering him. He's tiny but so are Xavi and Iniesta, You can't know for certain how he would fare in the premier league but he does look the business right now.

Yeah I think the "size" factor should well and truly be shot to pieces right about now.

We should just put a sizeable bid in and loan him back to Atletico for the season. (that's probably the only way they'd sell atm).
 
So Balague seems to think Barcelona have first option on this kid as part of the Villa deal:
Atletico Madrid came in and they got a deal for 2.5m euros - that is all for the first year. If he stays for three years it is 4.6m euros. Why so cheap? I found out that Barcelona have a first option on [18-year-old Atletico midfielder] Oliver Torres.

Now if Atletico fans find out about that they might not be happy but it is one way of Barcelona saying they are getting rid of a big wage and getting a first option on this guy, and let go someone who was not happy either.
:rolleyes:
 
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