Óliver Torres - Another Spanish Midfield Maestro

[FCBarca]

Do you fancy him to be a future Barca player or have you got some of your own coming through that will be the future?

I would love love love for it to happen but seems a longshot. Loyal Atletico youth player which, for one, means the blancos won't have a shot at him. The club & Simeone know what sort of talent they have on their hands.

The closest player to a Torres we have in the cantera is Samper who is a few months younger than Oliver - but not nearly as polished, IMHO. Samper is more Xavi while Torres definitely has a Scholesy look about him along with the usual midfielder traits a Spanish footballer has these days. By next summer everyone will be clammoring for him, I bet.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

You can just see his class from those clips. He's got alot of scholes about him. Would love to see spending big on this kind of technically gifted talent.

 

[George Owen]

Sometimes, you think football players are destined to a certain future just by supposing things...

Its logical he will end up playing in Barcelona or something like that... but what if... WHAT IF, this kid wants to be different? want a real challenge?

take a look at De Gea... he came to us against all odds and now he is the best spanish goalkeeper out there, winning titles, playing at the most competitive league and has the honor to play at Old Trafford week in/week out.

Has anyone asked him already if he want to take the easy way or the hard way?


Somebody at Utd should go to him and ask him that as soon as possible... he might just want to take the easy way and stay in Spain, maybe he wants to go where they pay him the most... But maybe, he want it the hard way. Maybe he wants a real challenge.

u never know right? just in case...

This kid is worth the plane ticket at the very least... Midfielder for the next 15 years. DDG can help with it... text him haha.

 

[rooneyaldo]

At the time De Gea moved, United was his best option. Real and Barca didnt need goalkeepers especially an young and inexperienced one so naturally (generally) for every footballer of Latin descent , after Real and Barca, its United.

 

[relx]

Yup he was quality during the game, though it was a friendly

 

[Sarni]

At the time De Gea moved, United was his best option. Real and Barca didnt need goalkeepers especially an young and inexperienced one so naturally (generally) for every footballer of Latin descent , after Real and Barca, its United.

Young Atletico starlets won't be moving to Real Madrid anyway, there's a strong rivarly between the two clubs and it'd be equal to a player moving from Everton to Liverpool or from City to United - it doesn't really happen, especially with homegrown players. The only country where exchanges like that are common is Italy.

 

[RDCR07]

I would love love love for it to happen but seems a longshot. Loyal Atletico youth player which, for one, means the blancos won't have a shot at him. The club & Simeone know what sort of talent they have on their hands.

The closest player to a Torres we have in the cantera is Samper who is a few months younger than Oliver - but not nearly as polished, IMHO. Samper is more Xavi while Torres definitely has a Scholesy look about him along with the usual midfielder traits a Spanish footballer has these days. By next summer everyone will be clammoring for him, I bet.

How often do Athletico players switch to either Real or Barca? Any idea? Or a more general question would be in Spain, how often do young players switch from smaller clubs to either Barca or Madrid? Young players from which club dont move to the big two in La Liga?

 

[FCBarca]

Rare to go from Atletico to their city rivals, not easy to go to Barcelona either. Barcelona had tried to pry Torres away before he went to England but Madrid weren't having it. Probably depends on the climate/board, of course, but a player going to their city rivals is likely to get stuck with a shiv in the team showers before they dare consider a switch. Kun has long been rumoured to have been courted to go to RM and that feeling still persists, even at City. In fact, him going to City might be the only way to facilitate that happening as a direct transfer from Atletico was never going to happen. Same for Falcao.

Bilbao as we've already seen is very hard to pry talent away but it does happen. Unfortunately, Barcelona have been rebuffed with just about every approach for a Basque player - recently Javi. This despite having a Basque Sporting Director too.

As for the smaller clubs, it happens all the time, probably too often but as was discussed before and on the last edition of Revista on Sky, the TV revenue is grossly disproportionate. That would go a long ways in helping keep young talent at their local clubs longer if not compete better in Spain & Europe.

 

[Will Absolute]

Rare to go from Atletico to their city rivals, not easy to go to Barcelona either. Barcelona had tried to pry Torres away before he went to England but Madrid weren't having it. Probably depends on the climate/board, of course, but a player going to their city rivals is likely to get stuck with a shiv in the team showers before they dare consider a switch. Kun has long been rumoured to have been courted to go to RM and that feeling still persists, even at City. In fact, him going to City might be the only way to facilitate that happening as a direct transfer from Atletico was never going to happen. Same for Falcao.

Bilbao as we've already seen is very hard to pry talent away but it does happen. Unfortunately, Barcelona have been rebuffed with just about every approach for a Basque player - recently Javi. This despite having a Basque Sporting Director too.

As for the smaller clubs, it happens all the time, probably too often but as was discussed before and on the last edition of Revista on Sky, the TV revenue is grossly disproportionate. That would go a long ways in helping keep young talent at their local clubs longer if not compete better in Spain & Europe.

True. But the Premier League is too communistic. This season, we get about
£60m for finishing first, and QPR, who finished last, get £40m.

 

[JaffyJoe]

18 years old, and has already played a few games for Atletico Madrid. He is doing the exact same things in their first team, as he does for the youth teams.
Completely unimpressed.
Perfect timing for him to come through if he would like to play for Barcelona.

I still prefer Andreas Pereiras video

Both these kids look fantastic talents.
Torres is Xavi-esque in his ability to retain the ball under pressure and then keep moving once he has passed to make himself available awesome.

Perieras reminds e of Zidane the touch, the skill, the size and strength and then that ability to beat players. He also plays the killer final ball and seems to be a dead ball expert. He was amazing did I read right that he plays for us?

 

[Joemo]

Periera reminds me of Zidane the touch, the skill, the size and strength and then that ability to beat players. He also plays the killer final ball and seems to be a dead ball expert. He was amazing did I read right that he plays for us?

Yeah he's in the U18's at the moment, got some minutes for the U21's in the last couple of games. You should watch the youth football, we've got some cracking players coming through at the moment.

 

[Vato]

Hmmm, too bad this guy is from the wrong side of Madrid. Seems like a great talent.

 

[Vato]

Sometimes, you think football players are destined to a certain future just by supposing things...

Its logical he will end up playing in Barcelona or something like that... but what if... WHAT IF, this kid wants to be different? want a real challenge?

take a look at De Gea... he came to us against all odds and now he is the best spanish goalkeeper out there, winning titles, playing at the most competitive league and has the honor to play at Old Trafford week in/week out.

Has anyone asked him already if he want to take the easy way or the hard way?


Somebody at Utd should go to him and ask him that as soon as possible... he might just want to take the easy way and stay in Spain, maybe he wants to go where they pay him the most... But maybe, he want it the hard way. Maybe he wants a real challenge.

u never know right? just in case...

This kid is worth the plane ticket at the very least... Midfielder for the next 15 years. DDG can help with it... text him haha.

Errr, are we sure we still talking about... you know.. football? You sound pretty excited.

 

[rooneyaldo]

Why is it that other team's young exciting players tend to come up to the first team pretty quickly as compared to ours. Take the example of Oliver Torres, he is 18 years old and has already played for Athletico this season and I am sure their fans are looking forward to him playing a major role next season whereas our exciting young players seem very very far from the first team. I know since we are a top club, our standards are higher so it more difficult for young players but overall when we discuss the likes of Ben Pearson, Matts Daeahli, Adnan Januzaj, Andreas Pereira and James Wilson (I just listed the players whom I think are the most exciting players), we always say they are about 3 to 4 years away from the first team even though they are all around 18 years of age. Why don't we have 17/18 years olds playing for us at least in the unimportant games.I dont think Oliver Torres is physically ready but is still played so why dont we play some of the above mentionned games once in a while?

 

[George Owen]

whahahahha xd

just realized this Pereira kid play for us... so i dont want that spanish midfield maestro anymore.

Pereira choose the hard way, i like how he thinks.





yeh, maybe i over wrote what i meant... haha

but seriously, would love to have that kid (Oliver) playing for us... looks like he is already good enough to play in our midfield. scary...

 

[George Owen]

Why is it that other team's young exciting players tend to come up to the first team pretty quickly as compared to ours. Take the example of Oliver Torres, he is 18 years old and has already played for Athletico this season and I am sure their fans are looking forward to him playing a major role next season whereas our exciting young players seem very very far from the first team. I know since we are a top club, our standards are higher so it more difficult for young players but overall when we discuss the likes of Ben Pearson, Matts Daeahli, Adnan Januzaj, Andreas Pereira and James Wilson (I just listed the players whom I think are the most exciting players), we always say they are about 3 to 4 years away from the first team even though they are all around 18 years of age. Why don't we have 17/18 years olds playing for us at least in the unimportant games.I dont think Oliver Torres is physically ready but is still played so why dont we play some of the above mentionned games once in a while?

Ask Pogba about that...

i think i was just the Sir Alex way... cant remember any young player starting to play regularly for us at 18 yo or younger on the last decade (bar Ronaldo and Rooney, but my memory is pretty shitty anyway haha maybe im wrong). He just prefered experienced players.

I hope Moyes have a different approach to get the youngters involved... Januzaj for example, have to start playing this season. exciting talent... and left footed!! like god, messi, maradona, me... exciting talent indeed.

 

[Brightonian]

Why is it that other team's young exciting players tend to come up to the first team pretty quickly as compared to ours. Take the example of Oliver Torres, he is 18 years old and has already played for Athletico this season and I am sure their fans are looking forward to him playing a major role next season whereas our exciting young players seem very very far from the first team. I know since we are a top club, our standards are higher so it more difficult for young players but overall when we discuss the likes of Ben Pearson, Matts Daeahli, Adnan Januzaj, Andreas Pereira and James Wilson (I just listed the players whom I think are the most exciting players), we always say they are about 3 to 4 years away from the first team even though they are all around 18 years of age. Why don't we have 17/18 years olds playing for us at least in the unimportant games.I dont think Oliver Torres is physically ready but is still played so why dont we play some of the above mentionned games once in a while?

1. A higher quality of first-teamer to displace, and a better squad to squeeze into.

2. The fact that we can afford to just buy a player if we have a gap that needs filling (which, since our competition - City, Chelsea - can do that to an even greater extent, is often necessary if we want to keep up.)

3. Fergie's preference for blooding players on loan for a few years before letting them anywhere near the first team.

4. A much more physical league, which means that giving the youngsters time to get big, strong and fast enough to compete is much more of an issue here than in Spain.

 

[Brightonian]

Perieras reminds e of Zidane the touch, the skill, the size and strength and then that ability to beat players. He also plays the killer final ball and seems to be a dead ball expert. He was amazing did I read right that he plays for us?

He's a little younger than most of the other top talents that get mentioned a lot on here - still just 16, I think, whereas the others are 18-20. But he plays miles ahead of his age group. Recently got some time for the U21s. That video is from a while back, it actually undersells him as a player. Shows his dribbling and his eye for goal, obviously, but not his excellent passing and full-blooded tackling.

I'd love it if Moyes did try using our youngsters a little more boldly than Fergie. It's hard not to get overexcited about the generation we have coming through at the moment. Januzaj is just the first - Pearson, Daehli and Pereira are all incredibly special talents.

 

[Claymore]

You can just see his class from those clips. He's got alot of scholes about him. Would love to see spending big on this kind of technically gifted talent.

Yeah, lets do a Kenny Dalglish and go signing players off the back of an edited Youtube video clip. Moyes has gotta be onto this tactic surely.

 

[Devil may care]

I would love love love for it to happen but seems a longshot. Loyal Atletico youth player which, for one, means the blancos won't have a shot at him. The club & Simeone know what sort of talent they have on their hands.

The closest player to a Torres we have in the cantera is Samper who is a few months younger than Oliver - but not nearly as polished, IMHO. Samper is more Xavi while Torres definitely has a Scholesy look about him along with the usual midfielder traits a Spanish footballer has these days. By next summer everyone will be clammoring for him, I bet.

I hadn't thought of it before but looking back neither yourselves or Real have been able to get players off them or Bilbao, they don't even try to fleece you the way Spurs do to us.

Interesting, is Samper Spanish and will he be in the U20 World Cup with Torres? I think you are right about Torres, I can see one of the huge clubs wanting to buy him early, maybe within a year if he keeps his progression up, in the same way PSG snapped up Verratti when he was so young.,

 

[JaffyJoe]

Yeah he's in the U18's at the moment, got some minutes for the U21's in the last couple of games. You should watch the youth football, we've got some cracking players coming through at the moment.

I will try to. He looks amazing for his age really stands out.

 

[JaffyJoe]

He's a little younger than most of the other top talents that get mentioned a lot on here - still just 16, I think, whereas the others are 18-20. But he plays miles ahead of his age group. Recently got some time for the U21s. That video is from a while back, it actually undersells him as a player. Shows his dribbling and his eye for goal, obviously, but not his excellent passing and full-blooded tackling.

I'd love it if Moyes did try using our youngsters a little more boldly than Fergie. It's hard not to get overexcited about the generation we have coming through at the moment. Januzaj is just the first - Pearson, Daehli and Pereira are all incredibly special talents.

How good is Januzaj? Which youngsters do you see developing into top talent.

 

[Brightonian]

How good is Januzaj? Which youngsters do you see developing into top talent.

Januzaj is very good indeed. Most on here would name him the star talent of the generation coming through. For me, adjusting for age, Pearson, Daehli and Pereira might each have even a little bit more than him. Obviously the younger you make that claim the less certain you can be. Since several of the group moved on from the U18s to the U21s this year, the other half (including Pereira and Daehli) have slipped off the radar slightly because the general U18s performance level has understandably suffered. It could really only go down, since for the first half of the year they were thrashing teams day in day out.

Players in Pearson's mould are very rare at youth level, with serious grit and long-game intelligence to back up his ability. Pereira is obviously excelling so far above his age level that you can only draw good conclusions. Plus I love a technical creative player who can also throw in a really crisp, meaty tackle. But Daehli is my favourite from the group. He's faded a bit in the last few months, but I'll eat my hat if he doesn't become a very, very special player. He's played very wide for the U18s, and I don't think it suits him at all. He's incredibly quick-thinking and two-footed, giving him an edge best used in CAM, for me.

In terms of defenders, I think you never really know until they make the step up. Their side of the game is so physical, and the physical step up is the big one. But Michael Keane is the stand-out talent. I also really like the look of Matty James (plays LB).

I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore any/all of the above. Oh, and... Oliver Torres.

 

[JaffyJoe]

Januzaj is very good indeed. Most on here would name him the star talent of the generation coming through. For me, adjusting for age, Pearson, Daehli and Pereira might each have even a little bit more than him. Obviously the younger you make that claim the less certain you can be. Since several of the group moved on from the U18s to the U21s this year, the other half (including Pereira and Daehli) have slipped off the radar slightly because the general U18s performance level has understandably suffered. It could really only go down, since for the first half of the year they were thrashing teams day in day out.

Players in Pearson's mould are very rare at youth level, with serious grit and long-game intelligence to back up his ability. Pereira is obviously excelling so far above his age level that you can only draw good conclusions. Plus I love a technical creative player who can also throw in a really crisp, meaty tackle. But Daehli is my favourite from the group. He's faded a bit in the last few months, but I'll eat my hat if he doesn't become a very, very special player. He's played very wide for the U18s, and I don't think it suits him at all. He's incredibly quick-thinking and two-footed, giving him an edge best used in CAM, for me.

In terms of defenders, I think you never really know until they make the step up. Their side of the game is so physical, and the physical step up is the big one. But Michael Keane is the stand-out talent. I also really like the look of Matty James (plays LB).

I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore any/all of the above. Oh, and... Oliver Torres.

I appreciate it a good read that is something I want to be into more. Quality players don't come out of nowhere they need to be oustanding youth first. I like to see players who use their brain at the youth level because that will always translate up when your game is based so much on the physical and your football knowledge and decision making are poor you will get found out as you step up a level. The vids of these two young midfielders Torres and Periera those are the kind of players I like they play on instinct and the decision turns out to be the right one. Periera is already to good for his age group when he is able to handle himself physically he should be making the step up to u-21. How good is Nick Powell and what position do you see him playing?

 

[MJJ]

Januzaj is very good indeed. Most on here would name him the star talent of the generation coming through. For me, adjusting for age, Pearson, Daehli and Pereira might each have even a little bit more than him. Obviously the younger you make that claim the less certain you can be. Since several of the group moved on from the U18s to the U21s this year, the other half (including Pereira and Daehli) have slipped off the radar slightly because the general U18s performance level has understandably suffered. It could really only go down, since for the first half of the year they were thrashing teams day in day out.

Players in Pearson's mould are very rare at youth level, with serious grit and long-game intelligence to back up his ability. Pereira is obviously excelling so far above his age level that you can only draw good conclusions. Plus I love a technical creative player who can also throw in a really crisp, meaty tackle. But Daehli is my favourite from the group. He's faded a bit in the last few months, but I'll eat my hat if he doesn't become a very, very special player. He's played very wide for the U18s, and I don't think it suits him at all. He's incredibly quick-thinking and two-footed, giving him an edge best used in CAM, for me.

In terms of defenders, I think you never really know until they make the step up. Their side of the game is so physical, and the physical step up is the big one. But Michael Keane is the stand-out talent. I also really like the look of Matty James (plays LB).

I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore any/all of the above. Oh, and... Oliver Torres.

Do you mean blackett? Matt james plays mostly in midfield and was sold by us last year I think.

 

[Heffo]

Januzaj is very good indeed. Most on here would name him the star talent of the generation coming through. For me, adjusting for age, Pearson, Daehli and Pereira might each have even a little bit more than him. Obviously the younger you make that claim the less certain you can be. Since several of the group moved on from the U18s to the U21s this year, the other half (including Pereira and Daehli) have slipped off the radar slightly because the general U18s performance level has understandably suffered. It could really only go down, since for the first half of the year they were thrashing teams day in day out.

Players in Pearson's mould are very rare at youth level, with serious grit and long-game intelligence to back up his ability. Pereira is obviously excelling so far above his age level that you can only draw good conclusions. Plus I love a technical creative player who can also throw in a really crisp, meaty tackle. But Daehli is my favourite from the group. He's faded a bit in the last few months, but I'll eat my hat if he doesn't become a very, very special player. He's played very wide for the U18s, and I don't think it suits him at all. He's incredibly quick-thinking and two-footed, giving him an edge best used in CAM, for me.

In terms of defenders, I think you never really know until they make the step up. Their side of the game is so physical, and the physical step up is the big one. But Michael Keane is the stand-out talent. I also really like the look of Matty James (plays LB).

I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore any/all of the above. Oh, and... Oliver Torres.

Pearson is a month older than Januzaj and Daelhi a month younger so there's virtually no age difference there. I think that at the moment, Januzaj is definitely the biggest talent of the players you have mentioned. He's made the step up to regular U21 football this year look absolutely seamless. Perreira is 17 and I reckon Januzaj's performances at academy level last year were better than Pereira's this year. Januzaj has arguably been the U21's best player this year despite still being eligible for the academy and having been played out of position on a regular basis.

All four players are great talents and each of them could have the ability to make it at United, but on the evidence so far I would have to disagree that Januzaj is less talented than the others.

Do you mean blackett? Matt james plays mostly in midfield and was sold by us last year I think.

I think he meant Reece James, Matt James' brother.

 

[FCBarca]

I hadn't thought of it before but looking back neither yourselves or Real have been able to get players off them or Bilbao, they don't even try to fleece you the way Spurs do to us.

Interesting, is Samper Spanish and will he be in the U20 World Cup with Torres? I think you are right about Torres, I can see one of the huge clubs wanting to buy him early, maybe within a year if he keeps his progression up, in the same way PSG snapped up Verratti when he was so young.,

Samper is Catalan

He'll play with the U19, his development is slightly behind Torres' - the year before last he was moved deeper and, frankly, his play suffered a bit. Plus, they play similar roles and the NT setup doesn't normally double up players like that. He had a strong year this past year with Juvenil A and should be coming up to Barcelona B now.

As for Oliver, the player would need to want to leave as well which doesn't appear to be the case, for now. He's not new on the scene and most of Spain have known about him for a few seasons now. I can't stress it enough but while his game is really mature for his age, he's very much a kid still. I think Atletico have been great in bringing him along, not rushing anything when clearly he is a cut above many already in the 1st division. I'm sure apart from his own feelings about the club, the manner in which he has been dealt with must breed loyalty too.

I'm just glad he's a Rojiblanco, sorry Vato

 

[RedPhil1957]

Do you mean blackett? Matt james plays mostly in midfield and was sold by us last year I think.

Matty was sold, this is his younger brother. Stepped up because of injuries and has been very impressive.

 

[Brightonian]

Whoops, yeah I meant Reece obviously. My bad.

I realise all the evidence points towards Januzaj being the best of the bunch, because he's made the step up more quickly. But young players develop at different rates, and Januzaj's faster physical development (and the fact that he is fairly tall) have helped him in that sense. I just have a hunch, perhaps an irrational one, that in five years time it will be one of the other three being highlighted as the real star of the group.

 

[pocco]

Januzaj looks more talented than Daehli and Pereira for me. Pearson perhaps has a chance of being considered a better player in the future because he is just as good in his own way, playing a completely different poaition. Pereira and Daehli are similar players to Januzaj in their role and I think he's just better than them both.

I think Fergie called it spot on with his assessment that Januzaj and Powell are the best two talents.

 

[Isotope]

Januzaj has the look of proper No. 10 star. I hope the club will treat him better than the last ones.

 

[JaffyJoe]

Januzaj is better than Pereira does Pereira look so good because he is playing with younger players in that video as some of you must have watched him this year are his performances less impressive?

 

[Adam-Utd]

Januzaj is better than Pereira does Pereira look so good because he is playing with younger players in that video as some of you must have watched him this year are his performances less impressive?

I think its fair to say that in the youtube compiliation's the opponents are way below his level.

In the Youth teams at utd he has looked impressive at times, but also hit and miss at other points.

Obviously though he is very young and still learning a huge amount at this point, the raw talent is all there to see though.

Januzaj is 2 years ahead, and in those 2 years he has improved ALOT.

Pereira has made the u-21 team bench a few times so hes in the right direction, if he carries on this way he could be a great player.

 

[pocco]

Januzaj is better than Pereira does Pereira look so good because he is playing with younger players in that video as some of you must have watched him this year are his performances less impressive?

That video is u16s. I don't think he's consistently replicated anything like what he shows in that video for the u18s yet.

 

[Drainy]

Januzaj is better than Pereira does Pereira look so good because he is playing with younger players in that video as some of you must have watched him this year are his performances less impressive?

Januzaj is a little bit older, taller and probably has better acceleration. He's a better long range passer and more flexible since he's almost as effective out wide as he is in the middle. Pereira is a bit more aggressive and a better finisher, as well as being better at direct free kicks.

I'd like to see how Pereira plays a bit deeper along side Pearson for a few games next season. See if he can pick up the more defensive side of the game.

 

[JaffyJoe]

Cheers lads. Fair enough makes sense. How about Nick Powell? and do you see Januzaj in the first team next season.

 

[Orton]

Hmmm, too bad this guy is from the wrong side of Madrid. Seems like a great talent.

About time Madrid brought through some of their own.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Januzaj is very good indeed. Most on here would name him the star talent of the generation coming through. For me, adjusting for age, Pearson, Daehli and Pereira might each have even a little bit more than him. Obviously the younger you make that claim the less certain you can be. Since several of the group moved on from the U18s to the U21s this year, the other half (including Pereira and Daehli) have slipped off the radar slightly because the general U18s performance level has understandably suffered. It could really only go down, since for the first half of the year they were thrashing teams day in day out.

Players in Pearson's mould are very rare at youth level, with serious grit and long-game intelligence to back up his ability. Pereira is obviously excelling so far above his age level that you can only draw good conclusions. Plus I love a technical creative player who can also throw in a really crisp, meaty tackle. But Daehli is my favourite from the group. He's faded a bit in the last few months, but I'll eat my hat if he doesn't become a very, very special player. He's played very wide for the U18s, and I don't think it suits him at all. He's incredibly quick-thinking and two-footed, giving him an edge best used in CAM, for me.

In terms of defenders, I think you never really know until they make the step up. Their side of the game is so physical, and the physical step up is the big one. But Michael Keane is the stand-out talent. I also really like the look of Matty James (plays LB).

I'm rambling. Feel free to ignore any/all of the above. Oh, and... Oliver Torres.

Agree with alot of this. I'd add Tom Thorpe...who I think looks very classy. I agree with what you say about Mats as well...shifted out wide doesn't do a hell of alot for him. Pearson really is a very clever little player...good vision but never afraid to do the scrappy things.

Pereira has found things harder going than his youtube video compilation but you can see what quality he has. He really could kick on in the next year or two. I tend to et carried away with things...but part of me would love to see what some of these lads could do in a first team environment...not all thrown in together in a CC game...but playing alongside real quality.

It wont happen, and there are many reasons it wont...very good ones. Still curious mind.

 

[Tooni]

This reminds me of old football pc games when one legend retires they pop up a new player with a different name, nationality, etc.. but exactly the same attributes.

I've not seen any more of him than what's there in that video but the similarity to Scholes is scary.

 

[JaffyJoe]

About time Madrid brought through some of their own.

Madrid bring through players and never give them a chance they had Mata, Soldado, Negredo, Granero etc all good enough to be squad players at least.