Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Raoul said:
Won't be a big deal to him losing a week or two of pay.
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No, he wouldn't care, but I think it's the right thing to do. This is entertainment, and I think the view of the supporters is paramount. How do we feel when a man making a million dollars a month refuses to even tell his boss where he is when he doesn't show up to work? United has a long history of respect and dignity, and I think docking his pay would be a good symbolic act, besides being reasonable.

Take the money and buy tickets for supporters who can't afford to attend, or are disabled, or some such. That amount won't seem so small then.
 
gooDevil said:
No, he wouldn't care, but I think it's the right thing to do. This is entertainment, and I think the view of the supporters is paramount. How do we feel when a man making a million dollars a month refuses to even tell his boss where he is when he doesn't show up to work? United has a long history of respect and dignity, and I think docking his pay would be a good symbolic act, besides being reasonable.

Take the money and buy tickets for supporters who can't afford to attend, or are disabled, or some such. That amount won't seem so small then.
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I think many are making too much of the AWOL statement. ADM got injured in the COPA, was probably recovering and was unable to contribute to the tour. I am pretty sure that ADM was in contact with United and LVG was just making a comment to stop getting asked questions. It probably explains why he did not move to PSG earlier as well, he would have failed a fitness test. I believe ADM has asked to leave, and that is why United are selling, do not believe that LVG wants rid. Highly unlikely he will be docked wages if he has been in contact with United.
 
settembrini said:
It's textbook conspiracy theory nonsense. The authorities (Van Gaal, United) are lying! The press are being manipulated! Other people (me) are just naive sheep who need your keen insight to shows us what's real going on!

Yes I think United tried to find out where he is, maybe they have done so by now. The first time Van Gaal said he didn't know where he was was the same day Di Maria was due to join the squad. He was in Argentina, Van Gaal was in America, Woodward was either in America or back in Manchester, they are a football team not the CIA, it's totally reasonable they wouldn't know his exact location, especially if he was trying to avoid contact with them.

Of course that wouldn't stop United and PSG negotiating a sale. It's you who is being naive if you think discussions between the two clubs have literally just started in the last week.
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First, like you say, we do know where di Maria is, he's at home in Argentina. Already van Gaal saying "we dont know" is pretty much a lie.

Like Ive said before, we are paying the guy a shed load of money. Id be concerned with running of our club if we didnt know where he was.
 
Sky Sports are saying a deal is imminent, PSG offered 44m but we want 50m, if they offer 50m we should take it and run.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
First, like you say, we do know where di Maria is, he's at home in Argentina. Already van Gaal saying "we dont know" is pretty much a lie.

Like Ive said before, we are paying the guy a shed load of money. Id be concerned with running of our club if we didnt know where he was.
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I said he was in Argentina because I think that's where he was due to catch the plane from. You are being obtuse if you think that means Van Gaal knows where he is. It's like me not turning up for work, giving no explanation, and then if my boss asks where the hell I was saying 'somewhere in the UK'... If Van Gaal knew he was at home then I'm sure he would have said he was at home. If you are not going to provide proof that Van Gaal is lying then please stop insisting that he is.

I've already addressed the second point in the post you quoted. It's perfectly reasonable that the club wouldn't know where he is. The fact that we are paying Di Maria so much money is relevant only in that it shows his lack of respect for us. For hundreds of thousands of pounds a week you'd think he could at least turn up for training.
 
So say we get to the knockout rounds of the Champions League and we draw PSG.

What kind of reaction does Di Maria get? I'm guessing a bad one.
 
Cristiano Jonaldo said:
He can go feck himself. He has shown complete disrespect to the club and the fans.

I'm surprised PSG even want a player with his attitude.
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Are you? I just see them as another suger daddy club that couldn't give a toss about mercenaries coming and going. I'm glad we are getting rid as soon as possible.
 
gooDevil said:
No, he wouldn't care, but I think it's the right thing to do. This is entertainment, and I think the view of the supporters is paramount. How do we feel when a man making a million dollars a month refuses to even tell his boss where he is when he doesn't show up to work? United has a long history of respect and dignity, and I think docking his pay would be a good symbolic act, besides being reasonable.

Take the money and buy tickets for supporters who can't afford to attend, or are disabled, or some such. That amount won't seem so small then.
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It could be, but then again we don't know if he was told to just stay where he is after he didn't make the initial flight, so that the remainder of the deal could be hammered out. We don't know whether LvG said that to him or whether he just decided to stay where he is on his own with the knowledge that the deal was already done before he flew.
 
Shark said:
Are you? I just see them as another suger daddy club that couldn't give a toss about mercenaries coming and going. I'm glad are getting rid as soon as possible.
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Raoul said:
Any club in the world would take Di Maria.
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Well, he's established that if he doesn't settle at a club or is in any way unhappy he's going to stop putting in any effort on the pitch and ultimately go AWOL to force a move away.

I can't think of many clubs who would want a player of that temperament on their books? PSG are taking a huge gamble on him, because there is absolutely nothing stopping him doing to them what he's done to us.
 
Cristiano Jonaldo said:
Well, he's established that if he doesn't settle at a club or is in any way unhappy he's going to stop putting in any effort on the pitch and ultimately go AWOL to force a move away.

I can't think of many clubs who would want a player of that temperament on their books? PSG are taking a huge gamble on him, because there is absolutely nothing stopping him doing to them what he's done to us.
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They're not really. He's probably the final piece of their puzzle in terms of moving the ladder in Europe. They and other clubs could give two fecks about his experience in Manchester. You're also forgetting about his personal situation where his home was broken into while his wife and kid were eating dinner. When you consider that he probably didn't want to join us in the first place, an incident like that is more than enough to tip the balance in terms of moving on.
 
Cristiano Jonaldo said:
He can go feck himself. He has shown complete disrespect to the club and the fans.

I'm surprised PSG even want a player with his attitude.
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PSG needed to sign a big name player this summer and he's the only one available who might consider going there.
It was Luiz last year
Who will it be next year to replace Zlatan?
 
I still can't get rid of the disappointment of signing such a ridiculously talented player like Di Maria and having to sell him just one season on despite knowing his ability on his day is on a level with the best players in the world. To not even give him a second season and hold him to his contract, forcing him to give it abit more time. Other argentines like Aguero and Zabelta have settled perfectly in the area - it's just a pisstake really.
 
iammemphis said:
I still can't get rid of the disappointment of signing such a ridiculously talented player like Di Maria and having to sell him just one season on despite knowing his ability on his day is on a level with the best players in the world. To not even give him a second season and hold him to his contract, forcing him to give it abit more time. Other argentines like Aguero and Zabelta have settled perfectly in the area - it's just a pisstake really.
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He wants to leave, we probably weren't his first choice club but PSG couldn't have bought him due to their FFP restrictions that have been lifted. What are we supposed to do, shackle him in the dungeons? Throw more money at him? Rob him when he moves to Paris?
 
iammemphis said:
I still can't get rid of the disappointment of signing such a ridiculously talented player like Di Maria and having to sell him just one season on despite knowing his ability on his day is on a level with the best players in the world. To not even give him a second season and hold him to his contract, forcing him to give it abit more time. Other argentines like Aguero and Zabelta have settled perfectly in the area - it's just a pisstake really.
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Why should we force him? Guy wants to leave. What should we do, beg him to try a bit more or to try to love it at the club and in Manchester..

Aguero and Zabaleta settled, he didnt nor he wanted to be at United in the 1st place.
 
I might be wrong, but didn't Rojo do the same before his transfer to United?
 
iammemphis said:
I still can't get rid of the disappointment of signing such a ridiculously talented player like Di Maria and having to sell him just one season on despite knowing his ability on his day is on a level with the best players in the world. To not even give him a second season and hold him to his contract, forcing him to give it abit more time. Other argentines like Aguero and Zabelta have settled perfectly in the area - it's just a pisstake really.
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I see Aguero and Zab as stable personalities with positive attitudes. Some of the Argies we've recruited have not had those traits. Next time before buying a "glamour player" we must first identify whether or not they actually want to play for us and whether or not they are likely to settle, before breaking the bank on someone at the 11th hour of the window.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Nah, that one really impressive season at Madrid is looking more and more like an outlier based on his performances for United. Plus it turns out he's got no bottle whatsoever. Definitely damaged goods at the moment.
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If that were the case PSG wouldn't buy him. Clearly, any club with ambition and enough money would pursue a player like Di Maria. Its a mercenaries market these days and sugar daddy clubs will do whatever they can do get ahead of one another.
 
Djemba-Djemba said:
So say we get to the knockout rounds of the Champions League and we draw PSG.

What kind of reaction does Di Maria get? I'm guessing a bad one.
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We should all disapprovingly shake our heads in unison giving that implied "I'm not angry, just very disappointed" look.
 
It's better to just accept that the guy was not made to be here. He failed in a very bad way and didn't have the balls to try to get back into the team. So i'm just happy he's not going to feck off. Go feck yourself Di Maria, you're the biggest fraud in the history of the game. Your attitude to football stinks so bad. You had the chance to play for a really big club with history and become a hero. Instead you chose to earn a little bit more and play games that the rest of the footballers in that club describes as deadly boring. Ibrahimovic said his biggest problem was that the games in the league were so boring that their biggest obstacle became their own motivation.

I just don't understand what's wrong with United and players from Argentina. Fans in the club often cheer for Argentina and all that stuff - but I really wonder if we should stop buying their players. Looking at the track record... Heinze, Tevez, Di Maria... none of these stories ended very well. Hopefully it's just a coincidence.
 
Cristiano Jonaldo said:
I can't think of many clubs who would want a player of that temperament on their books? PSG are taking a huge gamble on him, because there is absolutely nothing stopping him doing to them what he's done to us.
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just because united fans think poorly of him doesn't mean the rest of the world does. A new life is only a 2 hour flight away. Ask Juve fans if they hate Tevez or Barca fans if they want Suarez gone

He is a bad fit for LVG, he'll likely thrive away from him
 
talented player but if he doesn't want to play for us and give it his all what can we do.

won't miss him based on his poor performances throughout the season.
 
Winrar said:
talented player but if he doesn't want to play for us and give it his all what can we do.

won't miss him based on his poor performances throughout the season.
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Shouldn't have bought him in the first place. I'am very disappointed the club could not smell the apple was rotten before they spend £60m on it.

Seems like we were so desperate to have our big name signing no matter what that we turned a blind eye to the fact that we were never his desired distination in the first place. If the player doesn't want to be here, we should not spend £60m to get him. And I'am not buying that burgulary, doesn't like the food or wheather stuff, he just didn't want to be here in the first place. Only problem PSG were not as daft as us and didn't want to spend £60m on him, he endured a season of manchester and now he has played us like fools to get the move he always wanted in the first place. It is proper embarrasing stuff for the club.
 
Mister Ed said:
Shouldn't have bought him in the first place. I'am very disappointed the club could not smell the apple was rotten before they spend £60m on it.

Seems like we were so desperate to have our big name signing no matter what that we turned a blind eye to the fact that we were never his desired distination in the first place. If the player doesn't want to be here, we should not spend £60m to get him. And I'am not buying that burgulary, doesn't like the food or wheather stuff, he just didn't want to be here in the first place. Only problem PSG were not as daft as us and didn't want to spend £60m on him, he endured a season of manchester and now he has played us like fools to get the move he always wanted in the first place. It is proper embarrasing stuff for the club.
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I agree with your assessment. poor business on our behalf.
 
LVG might actually not know where ADM is but the club probably will. ADM has obviously told the club he wants to go and LVG has thought he could convince him to stay when he got back from Copa. When he missed the flight then LVG was informed of it, understandably he wasnt amused at the news. I think LVG has told the club he wants him gone and doesnt want to hear anymore about it, probably including his location. So plausible deniability when asked where ADM is, he can say he doesnt know, whilst making ADM look like a spoilt child in the process.
 
He's an absolute dickhead, spineless twat that couldn't handle the heat. Hope he massively fails at PSG and ends up signing for Besiktas for 5m in a year.
 
I don't think he doesn't want to play for United. I think he doesn't want to play for LVG. Last season he was diabolical at times. Bebe got laughed at but sometimes he played like Bebe
 
Raoul said:
If that were the case PSG wouldn't buy him. Clearly, any club with ambition and enough money would pursue a player like Di Maria. Its a mercenaries market these days and sugar daddy clubs will do whatever they can do get ahead of one another.
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PSG also bought Cavani and he never lived up to the expectations people had for him.
 
He's a total pussy, saying that he'll probably piss all over the french league.
 
I don't mind him leaving - after all he wasn't that great last season, I think he couldn't handle the physicality of the league, especially because every team we played against was targeting him.

What I really dislike is that we are going to sell him at a significant loss - the money for one Darmian or Schweinsteiger approximately. How is that possible? He has 3 more years left on his contract - if he is so hellbent to leave then ask for PSG to pay the price we paid last year. If it's to much for them either force him to stay, or ask him to bridge the difference with his own money. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Otherwise there will be chaos in the marketplace - let's say Madrid values Ronaldo at 150m, but we are only ready to pay 100m - normally there will be no deal, but if we follow the ADM model, we could offer only 50m to Madrid and offer 50m sign-in bonus to Ronaldo - for that money he refuses to play for Madrid until they sell him to us and voila... Does anyone else have a problem with this business model?
 
Momochiru said:
I don't mind him leaving - after all he wasn't that great last season, I think he couldn't handle the physicality of the league, especially because every team we played against was targeting him.

What I really dislike is that we are going to sell him at a significant loss - the money for one Darmian or Schweinsteiger approximately. How is that possible? He has 3 more years left on his contract - if he is so hellbent to leave then ask for PSG to pay the price we paid last year. If it's to much for them either force him to stay, or ask him to bridge the difference with his own money. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Otherwise there will be chaos in the marketplace - let's say Madrid values Ronaldo at 150m, but we are only ready to pay 100m - normally there will be no deal, but if we follow the ADM model, we could offer only 50m to Madrid and offer 50m sign-in bonus to Ronaldo - for that money he refuses to play for Madrid until they sell him to us and voila... Does anyone else have a problem with this business model?
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Pretty much my feeling as well. I'm fine with him leaving since its completely counterproductive having players who don't want to be here in the squad. The negative sentiment will filter into the dressing room, training, and match performance. We simply have to screen players better before we buy them and kick on from here.
 
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