I thought I was in the Sergio Romero thread so got confused reading this...
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I thought I was in the Sergio Romero thread so got confused reading this...
His position was no excuse for some his performances. It's not like LVG was playing him at Left Back was he? Di Maria was played in a position he's played in for most of his career. And barring his small initial burst he was utter shit.
It was the form of Mata as well, both Young and himself were there on form and rightly so.
But you are definitely exaggerating things, he was playing well up until about mid November and things progressively got worse for him. The second half of the season was nearly non existent.
But you're original point was that if you're only good in one position, you're not good, after all?
Did you actually watch any of these games? He was dogshit when he did come on in these games. Like complete and utter wank. And this was after some his dreadful performances prior to getting sent off.
Did you miss the part of my post where I said I was just saying?
But yeah, your first four criteria for keeping him were either directly or indirectly about assists, but obviously us stupid people have read to much into that.
I didn't say he was good. Didn't even deny he was shit.
You're being harsh with regards to his performances before the sending off. I don't remember any dreadful performances, nothing great, but he wasn't anywhere near the worst player on the pitch. I should ask whether you watched any of those games?
Still dont get your point.
You're saying Rooney is good at only one position?
What's so confusing?
Do you have family?
If you do and you relocated to a foreign country for work and your family home was broke into and it unsettled them, would you force them to shut up and put up?
No.
You would obviously look after your family!
It's easy to take the "Ladish" view and say he should dump his wife, perhaps tell her to know her role and shut her mouth, do as she is told
This is real life and they have a life away from football.
Oh and yes it is United's problem. We are his employer and it the clubs task to ensure all employees are looked after, more so when they are in the public eye and with their wealth involved they are prime targets these days and safety is a huge concern.
Did I call you stupid? I said your post was stupid. I answered the question "what did he even do?", isn't it obvious that I would include his contributions to the teams cause?
I'm asking you whether Rooney's not good, "after all", because he's only good playing as a forward?
When you suggested he's not that good because he's only good in one position - I thought you were talking about Sergio Romero.
Yeah, he was pretty crap in games long before this period.
Again, first third of the season, very good... the rest - considering the player and the fee - shite.
He played more positions than just as a forward and in at least one he was good.
Ok, so you're of the opinion that if a player is not good in more than one position, he's shit?
I did and he was dreadful. iirc he got taken off in both the Sunderland and Newcastle games for being shit
I wonder why LVG never gets to take the blame for this debacle? If it was BR, we would have so many meme as to how he failed to use a good player. Good players don't become shit suddenly. If he doesn't 'suit' United, he should never have been bought. But him being a flop in United is also down to LVG. That's what managers are paid for; find a balance in the team. And if you have a 60m resource sitting in the bench, then somebody didn't do his job right.
Let me rephrase what I meant to say. ADM had just one great season at one position while in Madrid. Other than that his form was up and down or jut mainly down like with us last season.
So despite the fact he is talented he's not all that. He was great for Madrid in LM position, started well with us and faded. So you put him into another league, change his position and he fades away.
I would compare the siuation to Kagawa's, ultimate nr. 10 but as soon as he was tried in another league and in another position he proved to be not very good player or just average.
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I'm sorry but when you're messing up simple passes and falling over your feet then you're the only one to blame.
As I watch every minute of every game, out of those games the only game where he played more than 30 minutes was against Liverpool , and you know what he gave the ball away again, unlike his teammates, fortunately he gave the ball away to Mata who scored the winner
Interesting that LvG still says he wants him to stay.
Not saying I want him to especially, but a part of me thinks that di Maria might still stay.
Not saying I want him to especially, but a part of me thinks that di Maria might still stay.
It was a decent pass converted into a goal by an excellent finish.
Everything else about that performance was utterly woeful. And that wasn't even his worst cameo in that run which says a lot because that was out of the top drawer of uber shit performances.
This.
TBF, LVG has already publically stated his preference is to keep him. We had a pretty dodgy season last year with all the injuries and when we stumbled on a winning formula, ADM was the one to lose out. No harm in that at all.
What ADM should have done was take a mid to long term view, and see the players being brought in as an opportunity for him to excel. Instead, he runs away at the first opportunity. Not the type of character who could thrive in Prem or Utd, and better to let him go than let him sulk. We definitely need to replace him though, and that too with proven quality.
Actually, there were suggestions that he was one of our better performers against Newcastle. I distinctly remember a huge drop in our attacking threat after he came off. Same applies to the Arsenal game where he assisted the goal, but that doesnt count.
I think he was decent against Newcastle, nothing more. I could be wrong of course.
What about the part where he played in every possible position apart from defence and GK? Im guessing that was his fault, too?
The obvious problem is who to replace him with, people are saying get like for like.
Well and good but who? Most top players are tied up on in contracts with the clubs and will cost us a considerable amount (not that money is an issue), but most also seem happy where they are.
Bale looks like he wants one more bash at Madrid this season to prove himself, Ronaldo is always going to be a dream rather than a reality and Mueller is Mr Bayern Munich and after us buying Bastian, they won't do business with us again.
Who is left in the same bracket of quality? Reus?
Well and good but who? Most top players are tied up on in contracts with the clubs and will cost us a considerable amount (not that money is an issue), but most also seem happy where they are.
Bale looks like he wants one more bash at Madrid this season to prove himself, Ronaldo is always going to be a dream rather than a reality and Mueller is Mr Bayern Munich and after us buying Bastian, they won't do business with us again.
Who is left in the same bracket of quality? Reus?
Do you have family?
If you do and you relocated to a foreign country for work and your family home was broke into and it unsettled them, would you force them to shut up and put up?
No.
You would obviously look after your family!
It's easy to take the "Ladish" view and say he should dump his wife, perhaps tell her to know her role and shut her mouth, do as she is told
This is real life and they have a life away from football.
Oh and yes it is United's problem. We are his employer and it the clubs task to ensure all employees are looked after, more so when they are in the public eye and with their wealth involved they are prime targets these days and safety is a huge concern.
No, it's not our problem to look after him and there's nothing we can do. Obviously I might be unsettled but I wouldn't say United are capable of doing anything to help him on that.
While you can blame LVG to some extent, Di Maria has the abilities to suit us, he just doesn't want to adapt. LVG should have purchased a player closer to his style especially for 60m but Di Maria isn't very different from a Robben who made the adjustments without to much difficulties.
United bought the guy for a truckload of cash and pay him millions for showing up at training and matches... Even if he is unhappy at work show some professionalism and respect for what has been done for you. Sulking and missing flights is as unprofessional as can be and that did it for me. How many people go to work every day not feeling happy? Is he the only guy in the UK that got burgled last year ? And how many showed up at work after being burgled? Just sign Pedro and ship this twat to poo smelling and dogshit-ridden Paris.. I for one couldn't care less. Get someone in who wants to be here , not order him play here sulking up the place.
I just had a look at the Player Performance thread. Rubbish and garbage are 2 very common words post the Newcastle game. Our attacking threat in that game was pretty much zero anyway though you may be right anyway. When Di Maria we do tend to look threatening even if we are actually not. He did try to create things and that's one thing I'll give him.
He was good in the Arsenal game, I agree. It pissed me off at the time because I thought it might kickstart a revival in form.
He played most of the season either through the middle or as a winger. Occasionally also played in a free role up top as well which should have suited him but I'll ignore that.
I agree with this. One of the reasons why we should keep him. We've added more quality which will allow him to flourish.
Of course its the clubs obligation to provide the players and family with safety ffs!
United have a huge security operation at the club and to protect each of the players and their families. These things happen of course and it was United who most likely had advisers tell him to take the place that was broke into. From there they moved them on to another place with more security so I believe.
His family were put at risk, he is looking after them and any of us would do the same. Perhaps we were his second choice all along, this break in and his family being unsettled has just added fuel to the fire now and he seems to want out.
We were his 2nd choice. PSG couldnt sign him last season due to FFP.
Wow, you're genuinely making it sound as if it's United fault that he had a break-in.
certainly seems the case alright, hence the persistent rumours.
Yep, and frankly I blame him for much of the drama fest. It was his twitter rant that sent our resident drama queens into a tizzy.
Wow, you're genuinely making it sound as if it's United fault that he had a break-in.
We're utter bastards. We're the reason Nazi Germany started as well.
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