How is that even remotely similar? Have a word with yourself if you think lying to ruin a player's reputation and to not talk about a deal till it is done is the same.
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How is that even remotely similar? Have a word with yourself if you think lying to ruin a player's reputation and to not talk about a deal till it is done is the same.
Really want him to stay, and hope he and Van Gaal can resolve their differences and he is prepared to try Manchester for another year. We will struggle to replace him this summer, and while Pedro would increase goal output, we would lose that ability to run at teams and beat men, in addition to the very high amount of chances he creates.
To be honest, Pedro on the right and Angel on the left would give us just about everything.
To be honest, Pedro on the right and Angel on the left would give us just about everything.
That's so arrogant, he never claimed it to be your problem. Stating it as a factor for why he performed poorly is perfectly valid, and I disagree; it is our problem!
Yeah, bad example.
LvG stating that doesn't know where di Maria is hardly a terrible lie, though. Like I said, maybe he was angry and his emotions got the better of him. Or maybe he just didn't know.
He's still here (barely) because we paid a shit ton of cash for him and only PSG are willing to take him of our hands for what we want in return for him. If he'd of been a load deal (ala Falcao) he'd be well gone by now.
I suspect he started against Hull because he was asking for game time in the press and Val Gaal gave it to him. I'll counter your question however, why did Van Gaal pick him against Hull when it was obvious he didn't want to play? He couldn't have been happier when he got subbed off. That's not form, that's attitude. They go hand in hand unfortunately.
If LvG was to turn around today and say "Di Maria will be leaving, we want shut of him" the price PSG are willing to pay goes down by about £20m. If Di Maria really wanted to stay, he'd of rebuffed any PSG approach and made it to the tour. Even if he did miss a flight as some people are suggesting (you know because planes are just like busses), he would have been on the next one after that. He's a millionaire with a millionaire agent.
Let's just buy someone to replace him and ship him out for £45m -- good price imo and will suit both parties. He doesn't want to be here, and considering his performances/behaviour, I don't particularly want him here.
Listening to me is always a good decision
Eventhough he was pathetic by the end of last season, I actually said at the time that I prefered for him to stay but if someone is willing to pay us more or less what we paid then I wouldnt be too bothered if he left.
We are probably getting a similar fee in Euros to what we paid last summer, just we get screwed on exchange rate difference.
Argie players never seem to work out for us!
I already said that he might not have known at that time. But did he not give an interview after that? I would have hoped he could clear this confusion.
He was our most creative player.
It's not one point, its three different points illustrating his creativity.
Yes, him getting progressively worse illustrates that he failed to come to terms with the pace of the league.
Ok.
I'm not sure why it's so evident.
How the feck did he flirt with PSG?
They weren't bought to be squad players.
There's a huge difference.
You do know that there is only one way for this record to be set right. We have to buy MessiListening to me is always a good decision
Eventhough he was pathetic by the end of last season, I actually said at the time that I prefered for him to stay but if someone is willing to pay us more or less what we paid then I wouldnt be too bothered if he left.
We are probably getting a similar fee in Euros to what we paid last summer, just we get screwed on exchange rate difference.
Argie players never seem to work out for us!
I for one agree with you (as do most here it appears) but some people want to keep him here against his will and think that will be conductive towards his performances in a United shirt.
That's ok as long as PSG sign the papers before finding out, then they can have a whole 'Weekend at Bernie's' type of situation when they present him to the media.
Those people are very childish. This is the real world, we're not going to keep our most valuable player here against his will and watch his value plummet. What good does that do anyone? Except some online people who might get a childish kick out of it.
Replace him with Reus or someone like that and let's forget it ever happened. Everyone wins.
Surely if that were true he would have started badly and got better as time went on? Not the other way around? No one comes into a new job and does well then gets progressively worse, why would that happen?
The PSG rumours never went away. If he were happy at United they would have known they had no chance of signing him. They obviously kept in touch with someone, probably his agent.
They were never brought in for big money so in that regard I'd say they were squad players. Still, Ashley Young kept him out of the team last year.
Haven't seen anyone who says they want to keep him against his will. Those that want to keep him, like me, would also want him to leave if he didn't want to stay
Well, it evident that the league got the best of him. Many player start well and fade away, as the league demands a lot and they're simply not used to it.
PSG "rumours". The rumours of Ronaldo to United started the minute he left...
Valencia 16m in 2010 and Young 18m in 2011. That's big money, relatively speaking. This idea that Young kept him out the team is made up rubbish. It was Mata who kept him out. Young and di Maria started games against Sunderland, Newcastle and Arsenal. Then Mata replaced di Maria.
Until LVG says ADM asked to leave, I still treat it as papertalk. Something appears to be happening but it also seems to be exactly like last summer.
I'm surprised how much people care about this transfer really.
United's and England's record transfer fee is always going to get people riled up. No one would bat an eyelid if it were Fellani or Young.
I forget, were they MoM in a CL final, whilst carrying their team to victory?
His assists mean feck all. Anyone who wants him to stay based on assists needs to explain why we shouldn't sign Stewart Downing or Chris Brunt.
Nope, no one has stated they want him to stay because of his assists.
I think you're right, it's definitely an emotional reaction. I think people just crave expensive and luxurious items - something to show off and take pride in owning. Even though it's not as practical or functional as a cheaper, more common item.
You're right of course, goals, assists, creating chances mean nothing, it just depends on whether you personally like the player or not
Of course he was, keep trying to convince yourself, he wasn't fantastic but he wasn't shit either and yet another round of endless discussion
No no. He was shit. His last few months were abysmal. He couldn't knock Ashley young out the team.
Listening to me is always a good decision
Eventhough he was pathetic by the end of last season, I actually said at the time that I prefered for him to stay but if someone is willing to pay us more or less what we paid then I wouldnt be too bothered if he left.
We are probably getting a similar fee in Euros to what we paid last summer, just we get screwed on exchange rate difference.
Argie players never seem to work out for us!
Yeah I think most were all for him staying before recent events and it seems the move has been entirely engineered by him. Now I hope we draw them in the Champions League and trash them if he goes, give the 7 shirt to someone who actually wants to play for us.
Sorry can't resist this one. On the last page in response to the question:
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This may go into unpopular opinions thread but if he's good in just one position maybe he's not that good after all.
How is this our problem? Honestly I'm a bit baffled by families finding it difficult to adapt to a new country under these circumstances. This is a well paid profession in which you're supposed to travel a lot and be moving to new places for 15 years, obviously you will need to relocate a lot and you will end up in pretty and less pretty places. They're not going to stick around in Manchester beyond his current contract anyway, it's a 4-5 years stay in a city that's frankly not THAT terrible, living in a comfortable house having money to spend on everything you might want to need.
What could the club possibly do to enhance his life here though? Even if we asume that he's having troubles because of adaptation issues of his family there's nothing we could possibly do. His private life is not club's business at all.
What? Rooney was terrible in midfield, guess he's not good, after all?
No one saying he wasn't in poor form in the last part of the season but as this thread has grown , his performances have shrunk to only September, if he goes they will have not existed at all, and there are many different opinions as to why his form became poor
I don't care why he was poor or if he was good originally. He was awful at the end. Genuinely abysmal.
You disappoint me Mali, Makelele was great in only one position and he was a great player. Di Maria is just not suited to our style. If I'm being honest I kind of knew that before he joined, a lot of posters said it and my love for the player made me ignore that completely. Players aren't necessarily transposable.
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WHat? Midfield is not Rooney's position isnt it?
True but
Thing with ADM is that even in that LM position he was great for just one season and that was the one with Madrid 2 seasons ago. Other than that his career has been up and down in form.
A - Hull May 24, 2015 Prem D 0-0 Started
H - Arsenal May 17, 2015 Prem D 1-1 Unused Substitute
H - West Brom May 2, 2015 Prem L 0-1 Substitute
A - Everton Apr 26, 2015 Prem L 3-0 Substitute
A - Chelsea Apr 18, 2015 Prem L 1-0 Sub-On 69 min
H - Man City Apr 12, 2015 Prem W 4-2 Sub-On 80 min
H - Aston Villa Apr 4, 2015 Prem W 3-1 Sub-On 69 min
A - Liverpool Mar 22, 2015 Prem W 1-2 Sub-On 54 min
Dude, he played a combined total of around 140 minutes. Hardly given an opportunity to prove himself.
You forgetting how shit we were in the games after Man City? Our whole team was abysmal.
He was given numerous chances through the season and he kept giving the ball away.
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