Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Baffles me how it's still maintaned that £46m is a low fee and 'relatively cheap price'. Freaking peanuts indeed.
 
Yes, mostly mid-table players who have nowhere else to go and have no . When have they last signed a world class talent that United will aim for?

Again, from business perspective it's beyond ridiculous to give up on £45m to make a statement. It's like being unhappy with your Mercedes and drowning it in a lake to show that if you're unhappy you can go ballistic. It's literally beyond my imagination why anyone would ever attempt this. This is certainly no way to run a football club, or any business at all.

Let's kill De Gea while we're at it. Hire a hitman and gun the fecker down. That will show them.

Now you are shifting the argument to it being a bad business decision. Again, I doubt the club will make him rot in the reserves. He will play if we don't sell him. My issue is with his behavior, not the fact that he wants to move. All my posts, up until today, have said that I would like to see him play for us next season but if he wants the move desperately then we should sell him. However his stupidity in not joining up with the squad has rubbed me the wrong way. Why should we even be accommodating with our demand with PSG if this fecker is acting like a clown?

The DDG situation is completely different and it makes zero sense for you to even bring it up. Did I or anyone say that we should never ever transfer any player? Many people don't want him to leave because he is that important to us and also as a statement of intent that we won't bow down to Madrid every fecking time. The Di Maria issue is where a player is acting unprofessional and as a club we should have zero tolerance for it. At the same time, bending backwards to ensure he leaves after his antics is stupid which lays down the marker that such behavior can get you what you want. We should not be held to ransom by anyone.

As for Spurs, they signed Lamela and Eriksen a couple of seasons ago. Two promising young players who were hailed and rated very highly in Europe. You think they were worried Spurs won't sell them to a big club because of the stance they took with other players in the past?

However, if you want to carry on with your exaggeration, please be my guest.
 
Baffles me how it's still maintaned that £46m is a low fee and 'relatively cheap price'. Freaking peanuts indeed.

"Relatively" cheap. I don't understan what baffles you in that. We bought him for a huge premium. Even if you think we overpaid, it does not mean we should not try to get our money back especially since it is not us who want him gone.
 
Baffles me how it's still maintaned that £46m is a low fee and 'relatively cheap price'. Freaking peanuts indeed.

Is that the amount being bandied around? That's not as bad as I thought. The way people were complaining about the fee offered I thought it was 20+m.

I'd sell him for that. Yes we take a loss from the amount we paid for him, but we save on his wages, and probably can avoid paying him his loyalty bonus, since he refused to joined up with us (probably) AND we'll be rid of an ugly cnut who never wanted to be here.

Us buying him was a typical rebound move. Reeling from Moyes' disaster, the club obviously thought we needed to show some force in the transfer market. Hopefully, this is a lesson for Woody.
 
Part of me just wants us to break negotiations with PSG. We'd lose ton of money and have an unhappy player but his disrespectful behaviour is disgusting. What a mentally weak person he turned out to be.
If we have DDG still here as well, not sure I wanted two unhappy players in the camp. At least DDG is a professional and has shown up.
 
Now you are shifting the argument to it being a bad business decision. Again, I doubt the club will make him rot in the reserves. He will play if we don't sell him. My issue is with his behavior, not the fact that he wants to move. All my posts, up until today, have said that I would like to see him play for us next season but if he wants the move desperately then we should sell him. However his stupidity in not joining up with the squad has rubbed me the wrong way. Why should we even be accommodating with our demand with PSG if this fecker is acting like a clown?

The DDG situation is completely different and it makes zero sense for you to even bring it up. Did I or anyone say that we should never ever transfer any player? Many people don't want him to leave because he is that important to us and also as a statement of intent that we won't bow down to Madrid every fecking time. The Di Maria issue is where a player is acting unprofessional and as a club we should have zero tolerance for it. At the same time, bending backwards to ensure he leaves after his antics is stupid which lays down the marker that such behavior can get you what you want. We should not be held to ransom by anyone.

As for Spurs, they signed Lamela and Eriksen a couple of seasons ago. Two promising young players who were hailed and rated very highly in Europe. You think they were worried Spurs won't sell them to a big club because of the stance they took with other players in the past?

However, if you want to carry on with your exaggeration, please be my guest.

It's bad on absolutely all fronts.

Firstly you're showing that you as a club don't respect players wish to leave. Of course he might have acted like a massive cnut and he hasn't really shown his commitment but I'd actually say that it's even more of a reason to flog him to Paris and forget he was even there. Besides we're not even certain whether he refused to travel with United because he's a bellend or maybe he'd been allowed to stay by the club because negotiations with PSG were already in advanced stage and we knew that he was going to leave anyway.

Secondly it's £45m we're talking about. We have potential investors, we're in stock exchange, it doesn't reflect greatly on the club to give up on that sort of money - which would boost our operating profit for annual period considerably - because we're willing to punish a player. If it was £10m then all right, maybe we could make an example out of him, but it's a considerable fee that could be used to sign at least two new players.

Eriksen might have made a bad decision to join Spurs but that's another matter. He was stagnating at Ajax and there seemed to be very little interest from top clubs though so he didn't really have much choice. Lamela I don't think was on the radar for any of the big clubs either.

Your views on Di Maria situation seem very weird on all fronts mate. You seem to think he's worth £50m and if PSG don't add that £5m or so to the fee then we should just act offended and give up on the whole fee, and use him as a squad player for reserves. Maybe you're just annoyed at the whole thing :lol:
 
The price discussion is redundant - the euro has crashed against the pound in the last 6 months. PSG are not going to SIGNIFICANTLY overpay just to please our accountants. There's nothing that can be done about it.
 
£46m for ADM is a great fee for us. I imagine that'll be £46+add ons too, so by the end of it, we won't be far off getting back what we spent.
 
Get rid and give his place to Januzaj or pereira. Hell even lingard deserves a chance more than him.
 
Is that the amount being bandied around? That's not as bad as I thought. The way people were complaining about the fee offered I thought it was 20+m.

I'd sell him for that. Yes we take a loss from the amount we paid for him, but we save on his wages, and probably can avoid paying him his loyalty bonus, since he refused to joined up with us (probably) AND we'll be rid of an ugly cnut who never wanted to be here.

Us buying him was a typical rebound move. Reeling from Moyes' disaster, the club obviously thought we needed to show some force in the transfer market. Hopefully, this is a lesson for Woody.

Yes, indeed, that's what you'd get from all the moaning. We're losing £6m on him, it's actually amazing considering his performances.
 
"Relatively" cheap. I don't understan what baffles you in that. We bought him for a huge premium. Even if you think we overpaid, it does not mean we should not try to get our money back especially since it is not us who want him gone.

We bought him for £52m. He's been shite. We're selling him for £46m a year later. I don't see how this could ever be considered as cheap, really.

If they want to pay £46m then it's fair. We shouldn't be acting like idiots over £6m just to make a point that 'we get our money back' when it's very clear that he's not even worth that much. Imagine if Chelsea sold Torres for £45m after a year!
 
The price discussion is redundant - the euro has crashed against the pound in the last 6 months. PSG are not going to SIGNIFICANTLY overpay just to please our accountants. There's nothing that can be done about it.
That's another good point. It's roughly 1.4 now and it was 1.2 last year. We actually paid around €62m for him last year which translated to £52m (I don't think any add-ons will ever be paid out to Real Madrid). This year we're going to receive about €65m which is £46m. In euros we're actually making a profit and considering both PSG and Real Madrid operate in euro it's all right.

But no, ask PSG to compensate for FX market as well.
 
That and the fact his value will plummet if he stays and has a poor year.

Aye... coupled with the fact that he actively wants to leave, I really don't see the club being to blame for anything in this. Looking forward to him going so we can get in a replacement.
 
Aye... coupled with the fact that he actively wants to leave, I really don't see the club being to blame for anything in this. Looking forward to him going so we can get in a replacement.
We should pump pall the, money into signing a forward.
 
Aye... coupled with the fact that he actively wants to leave, I really don't see the club being to blame for anything in this. Looking forward to him going so we can get in a replacement.

Yep, I think we made a good decision listening to @Rood and giving him Most Disappointing Player in the light of what's happened.
 
Baffles me how it's still maintaned that £46m is a low fee and 'relatively cheap price'. Freaking peanuts indeed.
I know. I'd be absolutely delighted if we got £46m. He had a really poor season, is a year older, and actively wants to leave. It's great business if we do get that and the add-ons.
 
I know. I'd be absolutely delighted if we got £46m. He had a really poor season, is a year older, and actively wants to leave. It's great business if we do get that and the add-ons.

Easily another one in the Woody "win" column... He pulls that off and he will be fully redeemed in my eyes.

You guys are like those celebrities who go on TV shows and sneakily mention their new autobiography/TV show.

Minus the sneaky part
 
£46m for ADM is a great fee for us. I imagine that'll be £46+add ons too, so by the end of it, we won't be far off getting back what we spent.

how can you say that when we paid near £60 mil for him and we don't want him to go :lol:

Opinions eh
 
how can you say that when we paid near £60 mil for him and we don't want him to go :lol:

Opinions eh

What we want is irrelevant, he actively wants to go, thus keeping him around is completely pointless. Taking a £14m hit (though, with addons it won't be that much, probably more around £7-10m) on a player who a) was shite b) is now a year older and c) wants to leave, is a good bit of business.
 
how can you say that when we paid near £60 mil for him and we don't want him to go :lol:

Opinions eh

In a way it's simple, 46m£ is what he worth after a good season, unfortunately we are after a bad season.
 
how can you say that when we paid near £60 mil for him and we don't want him to go :lol:

Opinions eh

Because he does want to go and he'll be worth nowhere near that much if he stays and plays badly again. If we introduce add ons we take a (relatively) small hit and get rid of someone on big wages who's head clearly isn't in it.
 
We should get a PSG player in return. Cavani, Ibra, Silva. Do what we did to Madrid in the DDG deal...

The only problem with that is the club don't really want to keep ADM around... whereas we're happy to keep DDG around if the deal falls through (as is looking likely).
 
What we want is irrelevant, he actively wants to go, thus keeping him around is completely pointless. Taking a £14m hit (though, with addons it won't be that much, probably more around £7-10m) on a player who a) was shite b) is now a year older and c) wants to leave, is a good bit of business.
There you go again, calling the player that got the most assists for us last year shite. Weird, he had some issues but he wasn't shite.
 
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