Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

[Kostur]

Young wasnt keeping him out of the team due to his brilliance in the attacking third. di Maria was inconsistent in his short cameos and we seemed to have developed some chemistry as a team.

The most probable replacement is a 28 Pedro who, at his best, is a tier below what di Maria has shown. Dont get me wrong, he'd be a very decent buy but wouldnt bring ti table what di Maria can.

And as for the what we missed when di Maria wasnt starting... creativity, maybe? Funnily, he got most assists whilst creating most chances. Yet we created less than a championship team, in QPR.

While I'm not advocating the buy of Pedro (I'm pretty indifferent to it as I haven't been following his career for some time now) nor am I trying to downplay di Maria's achievements, will Pedro really be a 'tier below what di Maria has shown' when we look at the last season? I'm not the one to dismiss his year for us as a complete flop or something, no, but he wasn't really setting the world alight.

As for the creativity, were we so much more creative with him on the pitch though?

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Lets change the mood:

 

[Di Maria's angel]

While I'm not advocating the buy of Pedro (I'm pretty indifferent to it as I haven't been following his career for some time now) nor am I trying to downplay di Maria's achievements, will Pedro really be a 'tier below what di Maria has shown' when we look at the last season? I'm not the one to dismiss his year for us as a complete flop or something, no, but he wasn't really setting the world alight.

As for the creativity, were we so much more creative with him on the pitch though?

I did say at their best, Pedro is a tier below.

As for creativity, he was the most creative and played fewer minutes than most of our attackers.

 

[Sarni]

But Mata was mot wanted and had been benched for 6 months, yet we paid way OTT for him because we were desperate. Similarly Di Maria is desperately coveted by PSG and he was brilliant a season ago. So for me we should be looking to milk every cent out of PSG if we are not desperate to get shot of him.

Di Maria is very likelt also not wanted plus he doesn't want to be here at all (Mata seemed content at Chelsea). Towards the end of last season he was constantly a bench warmer and he has done much worse here than Mata did at Chelsea.

It seems like you want us to make a profit on a 27-year old player we overpaid for who has been terrible for us. It makes no sense.

 

[djembatheking]

I don`t see him going as being a loss . We keep hearing the stats about his assists and chance creation but to me his performances in the end when we were chasing 4th spot were totally spineless and he just seemed to give up when we needed determination and never say die attitude performances . He seemed to be on a totally different wavelength to the players around him whereas Young , Blind , Fellaini , Shaw on the left and Mata, Valencia and Herrera on the right worked for each other for the greater good of the team and we made top 4 .

 

[Americano]

So did he show up today? Or still AWOL?

 

[Hemil]

So did he show up today? Or still AWOL?

Bermuda triangle.

 

[charlenefan]

Considering he used to play for us Blanc's been a bit of a douche throughout this saga

 

[ItsEssexRob]

Can't believe how bad this transfer turned out. Someone should bump the threads from his first few games!

Clearly he's unbelievably gifted, but clearly there's a lot more going on too. Seem's he just hasn't settled and Van Gaal doesn't like him. In saying that he's acted like a knob and he obviously has the heart of a mouse too.

Dont tempt me!

 

[saivet]

While I'm not advocating the buy of Pedro (I'm pretty indifferent to it as I haven't been following his career for some time now) nor am I trying to downplay di Maria's achievements, will Pedro really be a 'tier below what di Maria has shown' when we look at the last season? I'm not the one to dismiss his year for us as a complete flop or something, no, but he wasn't really setting the world alight.

As for the creativity, were we so much more creative with him on the pitch though?

Even if we dismiss last season, I think Di Maria only in his last season at Madrid has clearly performed above Pedro.

I've never been a big AdM fan but he was that good in the CL winning season that I thought I had got him all wrong. Can he replicate that sort of form again, or was it just his purple patch? Who knows but I'm warming to the idea of us signing Pedro*.

*Note - I tend to try and convince myself that it is a good thing when anything is happening to United. I initally didn't want Moyes but then managed to convince myself that it would not be so bad.

 

[ghagua]

Wouldn't that depend on which state you're flying in to? That's a genuine question, I've only ever been to New York so other than being treated like a potential suicide bomber, I don't know much about American border control.

Nope. Same law applies to every state. If you have served jail time, you will be denied a visa, same with most criminal offences as well.

 

[poisson]

Considering he used to play for us Blanc's been a bit of a douche throughout this saga

We're not his employers anymore, PSG are. They're the ones who pay his salary so naturally he'll do whatever he needs for his team. Nothing wrong in that

 

[Sam]

So LVG talking about a lack of creativity in the team, having spent the whole season struggling to even fit Di Maria into the team, and being on the verge of selling him, just a year after name checking him as the player he wants.

Its things like that that make my head hurt.

 

[Raoul]

on page 62

 

[dwd]

This confirms malchians shitness.

 

[Truedevil]

on page 62

Ah sorry, didn't see it.

 

[Raoul]

This confirms malchians shitness.

For tweeting a Roy Keane quote ? I think not.

 

[dwd]

For tweeting a Roy Keane quote ? I think not.

For believing he said it about Di Maria which is what he is suggesting.

 

[Pexbo]

For tweeting a Roy Keane quote ? I think not.

For using the cryinglaughface smilie. Anyone that uses that should be shot in the face, preferably with a gatling gun for about forty minutes.

 

[rover]

Obviously Paris don't have burglars or terrorists or rioters or folk that like a strike now and again. Every City on the planet has its problems.

i'm afraid you didn't get my point

 

[NK86]

Di Maria is very likelt also not wanted plus he doesn't want to be here at all (Mata seemed content at Chelsea). Towards the end of last season he was constantly a bench warmer and he has done much worse here than Mata did at Chelsea.

It seems like you want us to make a profit on a 27-year old player we overpaid for who has been terrible for us. It makes no sense.

Mata wanted outof Chelsea and that is the reason he was sold to us in the first place. And it does make sense that we recoup our money for a top player. Chelsea bought Atletico's LB, basically made him warm the bench for a year and then sold him back for almost the same.

You cannot just assume that a player has had a poor season so he should be sold at a loss. The buying club's deperation also needs to be taken into account. If we tried to lamd Bale, you think Real would accept a loss on their investment? Even if Bale wanted to leave. I would not think so because we seem to be trying to land him for a considerable time and we seem desperate regardless of his average/decent form since joining Madrid.

 

[Sarni]

Mata wanted outof Chelsea and that is the reason he was sold to us in the first place. And it does make sense that we recoup our money for a top player. Chelsea bought Atletico's LB, basically made him warm the bench for a year and then sold him back for almost the same.

You cannot just assume that a player has had a poor season so he should be sold at a loss. The buying club's deperation also needs to be taken into account. If we tried to lamd Bale, you think Real would accept a loss on their investment? Even if Bale wanted to leave. I would not think so because we seem to be trying to land him for a considerable time and we seem desperate regardless of his average/decent form since joining Madrid.

Real would probably have to accept a loss for Bale if he were 28 and coming off a poor season. Likewise if Chelsea wanted to sell Torres or Shevchenko they'd have made a loss. We don't know how desperate PSG are, for all we know they might have set a fixed maximum price for him and won't be willing to go above it - it's actually quite possible that they have. Either way the price they're offering is a fair one.

Overreaction to this fee is huge. It's £6m less than we paid for him and that's not much considering he's a year older and had a terrible season. You'd think we're selling him for £10m the way people have talked about the price.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Maybe many of the Utd fans have now started turning against him and are now saying "I always said he was sh*t at heart and the game", but I still think he is quality and will be sorely missed. I feel that he is not such a bad guy but LVG's tactics or expectations from the game have made him believe this is not the place to be. Though I would not blame LVG who clearly has an idea in mind, I wish we could have found him a suitable role in the team.

To add to it. I am shocked at the monetary loss (assuming the deal is 43M GBP and assuming we bought him for 57M GBP) we are making in the deal. PSG want him. He wants to go. Why should we be the one taking a loss? It should be PSG or himself compensating us.

 

[Pexbo]

Maybe many of the Utd fans have now started turning against him and are now saying "I always said he was sh*t at heart and the game", but I still think he is quality and will be sorely missed. I feel that he is not such a bad guy but LVG's tactics or expectations from the game have made him believe this is not the place to be. Though I would not blame LVG who clearly has an idea in mind, I wish we could have found him a suitable role in the team.

To add to it. I am shocked at the monetary loss (assuming the deal is 43M GBP and assuming we bought him for 57M GBP) we are making in the deal. PSG want him. He wants to go. Why should we be the one taking a loss? It should be PSG or himself compensating us.

You're assuming we paid from a British bank account.

Perfectly feasible that we paid Real's asking price in Euro from a European account and that we will be receiving the fee in Euros this time around too. The difference in that case is only €10m, or £7,100,000

 

[Paul the Wolf]

You're assuming we paid from a British bank account.

Perfectly feasible that we paid Real's asking price in Euro from a European account and that we will be receiving the fee in Euros this time around too. The difference in that case is only €10m, or £7,100,000

You can have foreign currency accounts in British banks
It's what shows in the books that matter, United is a UK company so the accounts have to be in Sterling

 

[CLARiiON]

While I'm not advocating the buy of Pedro (I'm pretty indifferent to it as I haven't been following his career for some time now) nor am I trying to downplay di Maria's achievements, will Pedro really be a 'tier below what di Maria has shown' when we look at the last season? I'm not the one to dismiss his year for us as a complete flop or something, no, but he wasn't really setting the world alight.

As a Barca fan, I will be ready to do a ADM vs Pedro swap deal any day of the week, even after last season.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

As a Barca fan, I will be ready to do a ADM vs Pedro swap deal any day of the week, even after last season.

I believe you more than some experts here.
Also great tagline.

 

[2mufc0]

It does look like he will be going which is a shame, i do think he's a quality player and would have liked to see how he would do in his second season. But if his heart isn't in it we should just let him go. It did appear he did want to go to PSG before we signed him last season and only went to us because PSG had FFP issues, we should have signed Sanchez i'm sure we could have beaten Arse to him, cost a lot less and is suited to the PL.

Wouldn't mind Pedro at all to replace him, proven quality and winner.

 

[RedDevil@84]

It does look like he will be going which is a shame, i do think he's a quality player and would have liked to see how he would do in his second season. But if his heart isn't in it we should just let him go. It did appear he did want to go to PSG before we signed him last season and only went to us because PSG had FFP issues, we should have signed Sanchez i'm sure we could have beaten Arse to him, cost a lot less and is suited to the PL.

Wouldn't mind Pedro at all to replace him, proven quality and winner.

As I understand, Sanchez was open only to a CL team in the last summer.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

If Liverpool finish ahead of us next year, the scousers who broke into Di Maria's home need a medal.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

"I think we still need more speed in front and also more creativity and that is why I want (Angel) Di Maria to stay, but, we don't know that so we will have to see,” he said. (LVG of course)

 

[psychdelicblues]

Real would probably have to accept a loss for Bale if he were 28 and coming off a poor season. Likewise if Chelsea wanted to sell Torres or Shevchenko they'd have made a loss. We don't know how desperate PSG are, for all we know they might have set a fixed maximum price for him and won't be willing to go above it - it's actually quite possible that they have. Either way the price they're offering is a fair one.

Overreaction to this fee is huge. It's £6m less than we paid for him and that's not much considering he's a year older and had a terrible season. You'd think we're selling him for £10m the way people have talked about the price.

This. United should be grateful that they are getting anything near the fee considering that United probably overpaid for him in the first place. United have sold Nani and Van Persie and along with binning Falcao, have got them of the wage bill. This should more then make up for any loss for ADM. I suspect the true motivation of people banging on about the fee is that the fanboys of ADM want him at the club regardless of form, or the whether the player wants to still be at the club, or LVG can give guarantees ADM can start ahead of Ashley Young.

 

[Escobar]

"I think we still need more speed in front and also more creativity and that is why I want (Angel) Di Maria to stay, but, we don't know that so we will have to see,” he said. (LVG of course)

Just read that as well. Now we know that he still wants him and a potential move would be down to ADM. I still hope he stays and fights for his place. I wouldnt be surprised if half the reports would be false

 

[Sarni]

This. United should be grateful that they are getting anything near the fee considering that United probably overpaid for him in the first place. United have sold Nani and Van Persie and along with binning Falcao, have got them of the wage bill. This should more then make up for any loss for ADM. I suspect the true motivation of people banging on about the fee is that the fanboys of ADM want him at the club regardless of form, or the whether the player wants to still be at the club, or LVG can give guarantees ADM can start ahead of Ashley Young.

Exactly. People want him to do well because they see a world class player in him. And truth is he was exactly that for the first 4-5 weeks here until he got awful and it seemed like he didn't even care towards the end of season. He was much worse than Ashley Young towards the end of season and that's really saying something.

Keeping him would represent a huge risk. He'll be 28 in February and there's no guarantees that he'd hit form this season at all, especially as his curve is a downward spirral here, he's got progressively worse with the season. If he were the same level of terrible next season then we'd not even recoup £25m next Summer and there'd be no point keeping him. Him and Nani were roughly the same level on the wing around 2010-12 and we've just sold Nani for £4m to Fenerbahce.

On top of that it seems pretty evident that he doesn't want to be here. And he's not the sort of a professional who will still put in excellent shifts despite wanting to play somewhere else like you'd expect from De Gea and like Lewandowski did for Dortmund. You could see last season that if Di Maria doesn't care he's Championship level player.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

"I think we still need more speed in front and also more creativity and that is why I want (Angel) Di Maria to stay, but, we don't know that so we will have to see,” he said. (LVG of course)

Where has that came from? Didn't see it in the interview last night

 

[Mali_Zeus]

Just read that as well. Now we know that he still wants him and a potential move would be down to ADM. I still hope he stays and fights for his place. I wouldnt be surprised if half the reports would be false

Me neither. But as you said it means LVG wants me to stay although I wouldnt be surprised if some wont read that line or will skew it somehow like - he should have told him or tell him earlier or sthing 3rd..

 

[NK86]

Real would probably have to accept a loss for Bale if he were 28 and coming off a poor season. Likewise if Chelsea wanted to sell Torres or Shevchenko they'd have made a loss. We don't know how desperate PSG are, for all we know they might have set a fixed maximum price for him and won't be willing to go above it - it's actually quite possible that they have. Either way the price they're offering is a fair one.

Overreaction to this fee is huge. It's £6m less than we paid for him and that's not much considering he's a year older and had a terrible season. You'd think we're selling him for £10m the way people have talked about the price.

Bale is 27 and is coming off an average season. Yet Real are not willing to sell and we would need to shell out an astronomical fee if we had to get him. Difference between the two situations is Di Maria probably wants out and PSG are desperate for him. If PSG have set a maximum price for Di Maria, then we should let him know that they are not willing to meet our expected price and the deal will not go through. I don't think any player, barring Adebayor, is so unprofessional that they will sulk the whole season especially considering that we have been very nice with Di Maria and very accommodating as well.

If we think he just cannot hack it here then we should be desperate to get rid but that does not seem to be the situation. In which case we hold all the cards in this.

 

[Mali_Zeus]

Where has that came from? Didn't see it in the interview last night

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ted-boss-louis-van-gaal-reveals-two-year-plan

 

[XdanielredX]

So the search for a #7 starts again....

 

[NK86]

This. United should be grateful that they are getting anything near the fee considering that United probably overpaid for him in the first place. United have sold Nani and Van Persie and along with binning Falcao, have got them of the wage bill. This should more then make up for any loss for ADM. I suspect the true motivation of people banging on about the fee is that the fanboys of ADM want him at the club regardless of form, or the whether the player wants to still be at the club, or LVG can give guarantees ADM can start ahead of Ashley Young.

That is like me selling my damaged lawn mower for pennies and then you thinking I should do the same with my brand new Merc (not that I own one ). Also this nonsense about fanboys has to stop. Are you telling me you don't like or support one player more than the other? That is how it works. Most people want him to stay because they think he can be huge for us this summer.