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Wow. I so wish Keane had a sound byte on Nani's exit as well
It's not a quote on Di Maria though, it's rehashed 8-year old quote about Mido.
Have you seen the Rooney threads mate? He can put in a proper shift and get still get blamed for El Niño.Fair enough but the impatient attitude of the fans from the first day he had a bad game is baffling to say the least.
Have you seen the Rooney threads mate? He can put in a proper shift and get still get blamed for El Niño.
Oh Keane, I thought the guy said something positive about us for a change.
Too bad he's gone.
He's an unbelievable player and IF he settles, he'd be better than Sanchez, Hazard and Silva for me.
Hard not to in that league.Why do latin players flop with United? Is this beacuse of managers or something else? I have a feeling that ADM will light it up with PSG.
Hard not to in that league.
Why do latin players flop with United? Is this beacuse of managers or something else? I have a feeling that ADM will light it up with PSG.
He just needed another season to settle.Why do latin players flop with United? Is this beacuse of managers or something else? I have a feeling that ADM will light it up with PSG.
Im edging towards feeling like this now, was gutted last week that he seemed to be leaving, but now as learning that he's a cnut well he can feck off then.I just want him gone now. I'd actually be disappointed if he stayed at this stage.
But Mata was mot wanted and had been benched for 6 months, yet we paid way OTT for him because we were desperate. Similarly Di Maria is desperately coveted by PSG and he was brilliant a season ago. So for me we should be looking to milk every cent out of PSG if we are not desperate to get shot of him.£37m for Mata was fair value. He was their player of the year the season before and he wasn't really poor for them, he was just not wanted by van Gaal and not in their plans. They bought him for £23m and since his arrival he got much better and proved himself here.
£46m for Di Maria is probably slightly over what he's worth.
I don't. There have been a very select few that "lit it up" since they left. Ronaldo, for certain. Pique did well - but comparing against Evra makes that dubious. Pogba might be one, but he wasn't first eleven for us. The vast majority of players that leave United have made me think either, "it was time", or "why did we buy them or keep them at all?" or "what in bloody hell were we thinking keeping him on the payroll for the past 3 seasons?" after seeing how they perform after leaving.I have a feeling that ADM will light it up with PSG.
I think there is some element of bad luck involved, along with a lack of character on the part of those recruited, as well as bad judgment on United's part.Thats the million dollar question.
Our record with latin players is horrific.
When @Cina edited the title he didn't put in the threadmark so got no idea.What's this about Laurent Blanc? Anyone know the page number?
It's a fake quote, not a clue what the comparison with Villa was about.Is that why Keane quit the Villa job?
What's this about Laurent Blanc? Anyone know the page number?
I know. It was a joke.It's a fake quote, not a clue what the comparison with Villa was about.
because most of the time we have used to the utmost those players, or they were really rubbish. AdM strikes me as the type who is not for this system, but can surely still retain his classI don't. There have been a very select few that "lit it up" since they left. Ronaldo, for certain. Pique did well - but comparing against Evra makes that dubious. Pogba might be one, but he wasn't first eleven for us. The vast majority of players that leave United have made me think either, "it was time", or "why did we buy them or keep them at all?" or "what in bloody hell were we thinking keeping him on the payroll for the past 3 seasons?" after seeing how they perform after leaving.
Surely?? That's bold. We'll see. I think he can go ahead and prove himself against the likes of St. Etienne and the rest of League Une. I won't regret it for a second. If he had the mentality, he'd have never left Madrid, much less shat the bed in England, before skipping off to France.because most of the time we have used to the utmost those players, or they were really rubbish. AdM strikes me as the type who is not for this system, but can surely still retain his class
Gutted is a strong word. To be honest, he has a rat face like Suarez. I'm a bit glad I don't have to see it on the weekends ;-)People should be gutted about him going as it didn't work out at all
well he has shown his mentality at Madrid when Bale arrived, fought for a true place and recognition. just that Perez did not give a feck about that, that's allSurely?? That's bold. We'll see. I think he can go ahead and prove himself against the likes of St. Etienne and the rest of League Une. I won't regret it for a second. If he had the mentality, he'd have never left Madrid, much less shat the bed in England, before skipping off to France.
My sincere apologiesI know. It was a joke.
Apparently an apartment is burgled every 1.5 minutes in Paris. Just sayin' like...
http://www.blog.parisunraveled.com/warning-protect-yourself-from-break-ins-in-paris/
Also why does one world class season override all previous i consistent seasons? Its more likely the case he is not actually as good as a lot of you think.
then why did he get the most assists for us last season, i mean you don't rate the player that got the most assists for you over a season ? Hella chances created as well ? Weird.Absolutely bang on. not going to do the whole "told you so thing" but this transfer always felt like a disaster from the first minute for me, and it only escalated as the season went on. I never had the same level of happiness that the rest of the Caf had about him and it never looked right seeing him in the no.7 shirt at united.
He had an undoubtedly brilliant season for madrid, nobody will deny that. But it was in a unique position not as a winger, facilitated by some absolutely memorizing attacking talent at madrid, and in a league where his body type and the style of play of his team was able to shine. The variables where never going to be the same at united to bring about that level of performance from him regularly, and we paid 60m pounds for essentially the "quite decent but inconsistent" winger he was at benfica and the seasons beforehand.
Basically his first action at the club was to talk about how he wanted to go to psg, which is a huge fecking red flag, for somebody supposed to be our champion signing and in some senses franchise player.
I just dont rate him as a player and his output in the team can be replicated with half the cost of his initial transfer. What a cluster feck the entire thing has been.
If anyone thinks he wont be a massive blow, then youre out of your mind. Hes not some chump from the second division of a foreign league. This guys literally been there, done that at the highest level. A second season, having settled, and this guy would have been brilliant for us. Its a shame that he doesnt want to stay, we wont regret it but its a huge blow.
Yeah, I'm not sure why people have a hard time admitting this.If anyone thinks he wont be a massive blow, then youre out of your mind. Hes not some chump from the second division of a foreign league. This guys literally been there, done that at the highest level. A second season, having settled, and this guy would have been brilliant for us. Its a shame that he doesnt want to stay, we wont regret it but its a huge blow.
Apparently an apartment is burgled every 1.5 minutes in Paris.
When @Cina edited the title he didn't put in the threadmark so got no idea.
He said that he'd like it if PSG bought di Maria as they are looking for an attacker.
That family should move.
It won't be a massive blow because he wasn't a regular starter last season, he couldn't get Young out of his way and we didn't rely on him like we did on DDG for example. It pretty much links up with the 'What happens if Di Maria leaves?' question. Answer is nothing. Funnily enough if we can wisely re-invest the money we'll get for him then we can profit from all this farce.
Good post , totally agree .Very good post, and it should be a concern. However I do have opinions that run a bit contrary to this.
First of all, LvG was at the WC with Holland. We can't expect he had some sort of master plan upon arrival. He, and Woody, and the club had to adjust quickly. For me, they made decisions (probably more hastily than they were comfortable with). I think DiMaria will be, and should be, sold. Does that mean he was poorly assessed or a whim? LvG hadn't been here for 25 years like SAF with multi-year transfer plans. I think some people expect LvG had it figured out the day he arrived. That's too much of an expectation for me.
Moyes had to assess and game plan for United twice a season at Everton for years, yet he obviously had no clue about what we had, what we needed, and what system would be employed. Also, contrary to opinion, was not a buffoon or imbecile.
LvG (and the club management) undertook a very different approach than Moyes. Moyes wanted to err on the side of caution, to know exactly what he had, and take time to establish what he needed. It resulted in a relative disaster and he wasn't given the time to course correct (although he shouldn't have been given more time, IMO, the damage was done). LvG and the club adopted a different, more aggressive approach - make decisions faster, take some risks. In other words, making some mistakes is better than doing nothing - Moyes' tenure proved that.
Bringing in DiMaria wasn't incompetence. I think the club, and LvG, figured it was the safest punt they could take on a player regarded as a top 10 player in the world.
It didn't work out, but it appears Shaw, Herrera, and Blind did. Maybe Rojo too. Falcao did not. DiMaria did not, IMO.
Going into next season, LvG and the club know much more about they have and what they need. I see DiMaria and Falcao as calculated risks United took a chance on last season. I see moving them on this season as highly competent decisions - which increase my confidence in the club management.