Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Also why does one world class season override all previous i consistent seasons? Its more likely the case he is not actually as good as a lot of you think.
 
Vato said:
You don't really mean that, do you?!

I'd sell my own mother to win a treble once, you showboating, treble winning feckers! :(
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If you are ready to go such lengths, might as well become Barcelona fan for few years. Better chance of winning treble :p
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Rooney and mata need to step it up. Rooney to his 09 form, and Mata to his Chelsea form.
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How can we expect that from mata when he isn't playing in the same position he played at chelsea ?

Play him as a no.10 and watch him shine but lvg prefers depay
 
3rdCarter said:
How can we expect that from mata when he isn't playing in the same position he played at chelsea ?

Play him as a no.10 and watch him shine but lvg prefers depay
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It's possible. He cuts in all the time anyway. But yeah I agree I'd like to see him get more chances in the middle. Lvg doesn't trust him there it seems.
 
Sarni said:
Because we paid £52m plus bonuses to Real Madrid on the basis of a season where he was one of the best players in the world and crucial for them. PSG will be buying him after terrible season in which he lacked motivation and played very badly in 80 per cent of games. Also, he's 27 now and will be turning 28 in 6 months time and a player who's heavily reliant on pace will always take a hit when he passes 30 - there's depreciation here and I'd actually say that it's progressing even quicker for a footballer between 27 and 30 than for a car. 26-27 is still reasonably young, 28-29 is pushing it and 30 is an age when you no longer pay record fee unless it's Ronaldo/Zidane/Messi.

Baffles me how people think that his value should stay the same when he's been crap for almost a year. Actually I genuinely feel that PSG are the ones being mugged here if they're paying £46m for Di Maria. PSG are bailing us out really, £6m loss on a player we overpaid for who has been ridiculously bad towards the end of last season.
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We paid 37 million for Mata even though he was not wanted by Chelsea and had been benched for 6 months before that. It was because we were desperate.

The same applies for PSG here. They are desperate for Di Maria and had coveted him since last season. Combine that with the fact that they are a sugar daddy club and a direct CL rival.

So you need to take that into consideration before comparing it to a normal transfer.
 
Redlambs said:
I don't like selling him, I really thought he could push on next season. But Keano is right there, he does seem weak so perhaps it's for the best.

I do think it's a little sad though.
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I don't think he relishes life under LVG. if fergie was manager it might be different
 
NK86 said:
We paid 37 million for Mata even though he was not wanted by Chelsea and had been benched for 6 months before that. It was because we were desperate.

The same applies for PSG here. They are desperate for Di Maria and had coveted him since last season. Combine that with the fact that they are a sugar daddy club and a direct CL rival.

So you need to take that into consideration before comparing it to a normal transfer.
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£37m for Mata was fair value. He was their player of the year the season before and he wasn't really poor for them, he was just not wanted by van Gaal and not in their plans. They bought him for £23m and since his arrival he got much better and proved himself here.

£46m for Di Maria is probably slightly over what he's worth.
 
I just want him gone now. I'd actually be disappointed if he stayed at this stage.
 
We got ripped off for Mata because we were desperate after a failed summer and in need to finish in the top 4. PSG aren't in a similar situation, di Maria is coming off a bad season (surprisingly still created most chances and assists for us) and is on mega wages.

£46m is a very good price for the player. If we look in terms of the Euros, it's only a 10m euro hit.
 
Can't believe how bad this transfer turned out. Someone should bump the threads from his first few games!

Clearly he's unbelievably gifted, but clearly there's a lot more going on too. Seem's he just hasn't settled and Van Gaal doesn't like him. In saying that he's acted like a knob and he obviously has the heart of a mouse too.
 
He's basically used us as a stepping stone to get his move to PSG :lol:

The cnut.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
This is the crux of the matter for me.

Many seem fine with the idea that Di Maria is a square peg who simply isn't suited to LVG's brand of football and/or the rigours of the Premier League - and so he has to go, good luck, let's bring in a more suitable player.

But to me the above is simply unacceptable - if the premise is true. It would mean that we spent a record amount of money on a player who was either insanely poorly assessed by the management - or just randomly purchased for show without any proper assessment from a football standpoint at all.

I don't know what to think. But I bloody well hope that said premise simply isn't true - and that if Di Maria is indeed on his way out, it's because something unforeseen has transpired, something of a personal nature or the like, and not that he was a ridiculously expensive...whim of some sort.
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Very good post, and it should be a concern. However I do have opinions that run a bit contrary to this.

First of all, LvG was at the WC with Holland. We can't expect he had some sort of master plan upon arrival. He, and Woody, and the club had to adjust quickly. For me, they made decisions (probably more hastily than they were comfortable with). I think DiMaria will be, and should be, sold. Does that mean he was poorly assessed or a whim? LvG hadn't been here for 25 years like SAF with multi-year transfer plans. I think some people expect LvG had it figured out the day he arrived. That's too much of an expectation for me.

Moyes had to assess and game plan for United twice a season at Everton for years, yet he obviously had no clue about what we had, what we needed, and what system would be employed. Also, contrary to opinion, was not a buffoon or imbecile.

LvG (and the club management) undertook a very different approach than Moyes. Moyes wanted to err on the side of caution, to know exactly what he had, and take time to establish what he needed. It resulted in a relative disaster and he wasn't given the time to course correct (although he shouldn't have been given more time, IMO, the damage was done). LvG and the club adopted a different, more aggressive approach - make decisions faster, take some risks. In other words, making some mistakes is better than doing nothing - Moyes' tenure proved that.

Bringing in DiMaria wasn't incompetence. I think the club, and LvG, figured it was the safest punt they could take on a player regarded as a top 10 player in the world.

It didn't work out, but it appears Shaw, Herrera, and Blind did. Maybe Rojo too. Falcao did not. DiMaria did not, IMO.

Going into next season, LvG and the club know much more about they have and what they need. I see DiMaria and Falcao as calculated risks United took a chance on last season. I see moving them on this season as highly competent decisions - which increase my confidence in the club management.
 
Snake Plissken said:
Can't believe how bad this transfer turned out. Someone should bump the threads from his first few games!

Clearly he's unbelievably gifted, but clearly there's a lot more going on too. Seem's he just hasn't settled and Van Gaal doesn't like him. In saying that he's acted like a knob and he obviously has the heart of a mouse too.
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That's why he went for so cheap (yes 46m is cheap compared to what we paid)

club wanted rid as well i think.
 
Aldo said:
feck's sake. Cry for not having a world class match winner, get one, don't even give him a second season after he showed plenty of good performances and the ability to become one of the best players in the league. Just sad, and doesn't bode well on our ambition one bit.
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Did you jump into this topic alst week? He was scheduled to be in training with us and instead missed his flight and is AWOL. I don't think any of this is our doing.
 
Speaks volumes to make a big money move to a club like ours, have a bad season, and then move elsewhere. Doesn't want to fight for his spot. Not getting on the flight when supposedly the deal isn't finalized...unprofessional. Good riddance.
 
sun_tzu said:
Yet we want ramos to go public in asking for a move...
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First of all we haven't told Ramos to go public - I have seen no official release from the club or any of oyur management stating so..just rumors in broadsheets and twitter. If we're going to believe every rumour in here to be true then that's another point.

Second it's totally different. Ramos is currently with his club training and playing irrespective of if he wants out or not. Just like De Gea - where is Di Maria?
 
bugmat said:
Did you jump into this topic alst week? He was scheduled to be in training with us and instead missed his flight and is AWOL. I don't think any of this is our doing.
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Fair enough but the impatient attitude of the fans from the first day he had a bad game is baffling to say the least.
 
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