He seems confident enough to pull it off
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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Memphis, Pedro (if he signs) or Pereira (because Van Gaal)
What about Pedro?
Because we paid £52m plus bonuses to Real Madrid on the basis of a season where he was one of the best players in the world and crucial for them. PSG will be buying him after terrible season in which he lacked motivation and played very badly in 80 per cent of games. Also, he's 27 now and will be turning 28 in 6 months time and a player who's heavily reliant on pace will always take a hit when he passes 30 - there's depreciation here and I'd actually say that it's progressing even quicker for a footballer between 27 and 30 than for a car. 26-27 is still reasonably young, 28-29 is pushing it and 30 is an age when you no longer pay record fee unless it's Ronaldo/Zidane/Messi.
Baffles me how people think that his value should stay the same when he's been crap for almost a year. Actually I genuinely feel that PSG are the ones being mugged here if they're paying £46m for Di Maria. PSG are bailing us out really, £6m loss on a player we overpaid for who has been ridiculously bad towards the end of last season.
There's too much been posted for me to be arsed reading through to catch up.
I'm seeing a lot of resentment and seen at least one reference to ADM's recent shenanigans - is this just him not getting on the flight or has he done something else?
Not that seemingly going AWOL isn't enough, I'm just wondering if I've missed something else?
I'm seeing a lot of resentment and seen at least one reference to ADM's recent shenanigans - is this just him not getting on the flight or has he done something else?
Not that seemingly going AWOL isn't enough, I'm just wondering if I've missed something else?
I found it funny it's basically rained since the day he got here but the two weeks of sunshine we've had were when he was off at the Copa America, the day after that finished it started pissing it down again. He probably doesn't believe there's ever sun in Manchester.
He is confident, but rather someone earn the right to wear the No 7 shirt. Be much better motivation to keep it dangling just out of reach - make him more determined to get it
Isn't the indication that we will have to wait for that one? Not convinced it's a good enough replacement either. Our attacking reinforcements don't really look like they're going to be on par with our midfield ones.
Maybe, but Lampard is from this country. Not someone who just moved and is trying to settle, including a family. And we don't know how similar the circumstances were.
I'm not trying to defend ADM by the way, I agree he could have still dealt with it better. But a Lampard comparison isn't something to focus on.
It's stupid if we bought him just for namesake and not because of football reasons. Worrying if we thought he'd fit in to the style when it's been so far from that.
I wanted him to stay to see how he'd get on but the plane missing thing seems unprofessional and I'm not sure if he's got the head to come back and improve.
How much are we going to lose on him? Considering getting shut is probably going to cancel out clauses etc surely we're not going to lose out on too much otherwise we'd be more reluctant to sell?
He'll probably smash it in France and people we'll try make out we was daft but it'll be much easier for him over there.
I've no doubt it'll be Memphis who gets 7.
I wanted him to stay to see how he'd get on but the plane missing thing seems unprofessional and I'm not sure if he's got the head to come back and improve.
How much are we going to lose on him? Considering getting shut is probably going to cancel out clauses etc surely we're not going to lose out on too much otherwise we'd be more reluctant to sell?
He'll probably smash it in France and people we'll try make out we was daft but it'll be much easier for him over there.
I've no doubt it'll be Memphis who gets 7.
He's certainly more than good enough relative to what AdM contributed last year. In fact, there's a solid argument we don't even need to replace him since he never contributed anything near what we expected of him.
I wanted Batistuta at United but in those days we didn't pay huge salaries. Although if I lived in a perfect world I'd love 7 or 8 local lads come through the ranks and the rest of the side made up of world stars. Or something. That said, I'd rather come second with a team made up of local lads than a treble winning all star team. Not everyone will agree but there you go. But for now, let's get Messi!
Go Manchester!
Blanc said they're close to signing him.
Replacing last season's contribution won't be enough because last season's attack wasn't good enough. The attack needs to go up several notches. One 20 year doesn't look an ideal improvement. Di Maria was brought as that one brilliant player to take it all up a level. Still need that IMO.
Or, get the last guy on which the number worked like a charm..
#FreeRonnie from FSW..
Valencia it is then.Or, get the last guy on which the number worked like a charm..
Or, get the last guy on which the number worked like a charm..
#FreeRonnie from FSW..
My biggest gripe with Di Maria was that he lost the ball a lot. Yes, Pedro is a downgrade to ADM as an individual but I think he'll suit our possession based system better. I forgot about the whole Super Cup thing that Barca want to keep him for so you're totally right.
That's a judgement for LvG to make. I doubt he would view anyone as a replacement for Di Maria, as much as he would view the likes of our youngsters and Pedro as pieces of a puzzle that he can rejig to make us function as a team.
I love the way LVG breaks things to the reporters - without a care in the world, no facial expression... nothing, he is always adamant that the show must go on.
For what it's worth I've defended and praise pedro a lot here of late. I think he'll be a good signing. Just wish we got that one top attacker in as I think we lack one currently. If not, then small part of me just wants to see janzuaj and pereira given a real go.
No need. Just send a balaclava-wearing @Gerrard in Istanbul on over.
Most things we discuss here regarding transfers, tactics and performances are at the end of the day LVG's to decide, so I don't quite see the relevance of saying that.
Blanc was acting like Billy Big Bollocks and forgot that his little French club (the football equivalent of a run-down Vauxhall Nova getting a gold paint job and spinning chrome rims) isn't nearly as impressive as he thinks it is, so he forgot his place and tried to dictate the terms of contract for one of our players. He also smells of brie.
Because he may not look at things through the simplistic prism of "replacing" Di Maria since he is more interested in how the squad as a whole plays as opposed to viewing them as individual units. He knows what he's attempting to do in this regard.
I'm actually leaning towards this. Not sure we need to 'replace' ADM. Know it's a risk with the youngsters but as we have a bit more solidity in midfield at least, I think we can take a chance. Besides, they both look hungry for success - Pereira in particular - so you never know. Much rather that raw hunger and working to prove yourself than another established player looking to come in, settle down, get used to the league etc etc. But that's just my personal take on it.
AyeJesus a WW2 reference.
Of course he does, which is why he Manchester United manager. Him knowing what he wants to do and doing the right thing are two completely things though. Like the signing of Di Maria which he got terribly wrong last summer and failed to bring the best out of. As of now I'm seeing an attack lacking in quality, with or without pedro. Hopefully the one's who were part of last season's not so great attack can raise their games. But on paper that's my take.
How much do we stand to lose on di Maria if he is sold for 45 million?
Around 7m. It was widely reported he cost us 52m + 8m in bonuses.
I wouldn't mind getting a player from PSG in return,don't care who it is, they're all talented.
They'll send Spungebob.
I'll have to check my agenda.
Lucas Moura is probably the only player I'd take from them. And Marquinhos.
They won't give us Lucas unless we insist, but with AdM playing hide and seek with us - we seem to have lost the upper hand.
I'd rather give more chance to Pereira and Januzaj and cash in for Di Maria.
This in a nutshell
Fair shout,I would add Verratti to that list.
Verratti is great but a) I don't think he'd come here, b) we don't really need a midfielder that much now.
I don't think that's an unjust concern. On paper, our attack is clearly lacking behind Chelsea/Arsenal/City's attack. Nevermind the likes of Barca/Madrid/Bayern.
If we can get Pedro, that would obviously improve things. But its still not ideal. A lot is going to ride on Memphis, and how quickly he settles.
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