What if we have a chance to sign Messi?
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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What if we have a chance to sign Messi?
It's either rage quit or smash up me gaf. I'll take the former.
i guess thats the difference between the good and the very best. cant imagine messi/ronaldo/neymar etc. moving to paris at the peak of their careers. even zlatan moved there when he was nearly 31. cant blame di maria for not having the same level of ambition. its his choice.
He has played here in the U.S with Argentina 2 times within the last year, so that should not have been a problem.
We overpaid for him, and after one bad season it's hardly surprising we're getting below the amount we paid. Buy yeah I agree, I said at the end of last season we should bite the hands off any club that offers north of £40m for him...so naturally, like you, I think it's a good deal for us.
Wouldn't that depend on which state you're flying in to? That's a genuine question, I've only ever been to New York so other than being treated like a potential suicide bomber, I don't know much about American border control.
In one fell swoop he's made me go from hoping he'd get another chance, to not giving an absolute shit.
What an unprofessional little cnut. Hope he flops in PSG.
What an unprofessional little cnut. Hope he flops in PSG.
Don't know if this has been posted yet but Ibrahimovic is dipping his oar in now: http://www.theguardian.com/football...-maria-psg-champions-league-manchester-united
French league is shit, he'll be alright.
Can't be certain but 60 Million fees quoted included performance and other success related bonuses. Madrid will not be entitled to most of those add-ons. Basically, I don't think United are losing much financially.
I think the deal was pretty much done some weeks back. You can hardly blame him for not joining up with United. LvG is well aware and likely a PR-job making - Di Maria out to be the fall guy.
It's not bad but when you look at Firmino (a 23 year old who made his debut for Brazil less than 12 months ago) going for £30m and Sterling going for £40m I think we could probably do better, considering the buyers. If Chelsea can buy a 29 year old Filipe Luis, barely play him, and then send him back to the same club a year older for more or less the same price...I think we should be aiming to do the same.
For obvious reasons, Di Maria's seemingly inevitable departure is a shame. He's proven that, on his day, he's world class. He adds pace, creativity and goals / assists. We paid a record fee for him, and will likely be taking a big hit after only one year.
That said, aside from a few flashes, we never saw that Di Maria. Rather, we saw a player who couldn't get past Ashley Young and, on many occasions, couldn't even get off the bench. He looked weak, uninspired and disinterested. As many have rightly pointed out, most of our best football last season came with him on the bench. Despite the excitement many, including me, had when he arrived, he did nothing to endear himself to the club or fans. Thus, I very much doubt they'll be any tears shed when he leaves.
You do have to wonder whether he was ever motivated to try to make it work at United. Once it was apparent that Madrid was going to force him out, he clearly wanted to go to PSG. They just couldn't do the deal at the time. Even after he signed, he made no secret of the fact that we weren't his first choice - we simply came up with the money. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was his plan from the off.
What concerns me most is losing one of the few players who adds pace. We can't afford to get any slower in attack, in my opinion.
That said, aside from a few flashes, we never saw that Di Maria. Rather, we saw a player who couldn't get past Ashley Young and, on many occasions, couldn't even get off the bench. He looked weak, uninspired and disinterested. As many have rightly pointed out, most of our best football last season came with him on the bench. Despite the excitement many, including me, had when he arrived, he did nothing to endear himself to the club or fans. Thus, I very much doubt they'll be any tears shed when he leaves.
You do have to wonder whether he was ever motivated to try to make it work at United. Once it was apparent that Madrid was going to force him out, he clearly wanted to go to PSG. They just couldn't do the deal at the time. Even after he signed, he made no secret of the fact that we weren't his first choice - we simply came up with the money. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was his plan from the off.
What concerns me most is losing one of the few players who adds pace. We can't afford to get any slower in attack, in my opinion.
Let's hope they've got a quality replacement lined up eh. Must admit Pedro hardly excites.
Regardless of whether a move is close, as it stands he's still a Manchester United employee. And he's been told by his employers to fly out to join up with the squad. His refusal to do that is as unprofessional as it comes. Especially to just not turn up.
Plenty of players who want to move don't just refuse to travel because they're throwing a little hissy fit. Just look as De Gea, Ramos and Schnederlin this Summer.
Out of curiosity, why?
Disappointed in how this is panning out. I was convinced we'd keep him.
Hopefully we re-invest the money and keep spending.
Hopefully we re-invest the money and keep spending.
Dunno, it's just a feeling...perhaps the spoilt fan that I am loves the idea of a proper marquee signing at the peak of his career - oppps, like, well Di Maria(who I've never been convinced by it has to be said...). I don't doubt that he could be very good for us, though.
On the right player's not necessarily the biggest ones hopefully.
We really don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Anyway, I'm the sort of guy who makes excuses for people's faults.
Yeah i don't get this either. Pedro was a regular starter in probably the most successful ever period of probably the greatest ever club side.
My sentiment too.. i really hope that ADM will turn it around this season but of course it doesn't seem will happen now.
Also feel very disappointed in ADM too, he shall try to make this work rather than make quick escape to fcekin PSG.
If he does leave, then he'll be missing out. We're moving in the right direction and still may add more quality to a very decent team.
At least they have tried to fit in and adapt. He hasn't. Says everything about his character.
He doesn't excite me because I don't think he's a top bracket player, and we are losing one in Di Maria.
I don't even think it is about joining PSG. It's the fact he is giving in after just one season.
Exactly, I've never been a fan of Fellaini but he deserves my support and my respect, he has a great attitude and is a decent player. Mata is an excellent player and still fought and changed his game to fit in.
I'm a fan of Di Maria but his spell at United is disappointing, he doesn't seem invested in the project.
It's a shame he's leaving as we could do with player with his pace and unpredictability. But truth be told, he simply looks like he can't be fecked. The second it got difficult for him his level dropped. Not just the house break-in, but his injuries before that, when he came back he didn't look like he had the stomach. When he came off the bench he didn't look like he had a point to prove. Normally players try harder when they're out of form. Di Maria's work rate declined, body language looked bad, started throwing diving and referee tantrums. He just looks like someone who never really wanted to join.
What do you think he's like on a personal level?
I'm not blaming the agent, he has to do the best for his client. He would have wanted him to remain with us for now, this is down to Di Maria wanting out.
you're becoming like those pesky Madrid fans.
Maybe it is an over emotional reaction, but it is sad that players who like to play with freedom and flair seem to have limited playing opportunities in a LVG team.
I have similar worries of Herrera not getting enough games next season, and if Depay is shoved up front where he can't lose the ball, i can't help feel that the football will not be as entertaining as it could be...but if it wins the league then no one will care!
I have similar worries of Herrera not getting enough games next season, and if Depay is shoved up front where he can't lose the ball, i can't help feel that the football will not be as entertaining as it could be...but if it wins the league then no one will care!
The whole break in to his house thing has been overblown, so if something similar happens in Paris will he push for a move again? He has no heart for a fight and should just feck off
What were you doing down Canal Street?
I think Herrera has shown he can adapt and curb his instincts, ADM didn't and appear to not want to either.
Spot on post as usual...
It's a shame, and I don't hate him as some others do. He's not happy here, and by all accounts, he would have moved to PSG if it wasn't for FFP at the start of last season. Yes, it would have been nice for him to fight, but you win some and you lose some.
The fee is pretty immaterial as we are so healthy financially. You'd rather have a WC player than some more money to place on top of the pile of money you already have.
Going into the season with options of Januzaj, Depay, Young, Mata, Herrera, Lingard, Fellaini, Pereira behind the #9 is good, but AdM added that extra...zazz in that line up.
The fee is pretty immaterial as we are so healthy financially. You'd rather have a WC player than some more money to place on top of the pile of money you already have.
Going into the season with options of Januzaj, Depay, Young, Mata, Herrera, Lingard, Fellaini, Pereira behind the #9 is good, but AdM added that extra...zazz in that line up.
Obviously Paris don't have burglars or terrorists or rioters or folk that like a strike now and again. Every City on the planet has its problems.
Speculating but I'd imagine there was a fair part of the add on based on us returning to the CL.
I also hope we have a clause that allows us to stop paying his wages with his latest shenanigans
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