Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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DomesticTadpole said:
I think Herrera has shown he can adapt and curb his instincts, ADM didn't and appear to not want to either.
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Why would ADM do that, though?

He was voted into the UEFA team of the year playing in his way and style. Why would we try to change that?

I don't think LvG/Woody can be exmept from blame as we shouldnt have bought him if we had no use for a player of his style. In trying to force him to play in a way he's probably never played, he seems to have lost the will to play for us.

Sad, angered or happy, we need to move on.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
Why would ADM do that, though?

He was voted into the UEFA team of the year playing in his way and style. Why would we try to change that?

I don't think LvG/Woody can be exmept from blame as we shouldnt have bought him if we had no use for a player of his style. In trying to force him to play in a way he's probably never played, he seems to have lost the will to play for us.

Sad, angered or happy, we need to move on.
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I think LVG underestimated the squad and had to adopt his preferred playing style to accommodate this, sadly players had to adopt also and I think Di Maria suffered most because of this.
 
I feel a bit "meh" about this. We signed him on the back of a world class season but he was rarely anything approaching world class for us -- maybe that Leicester game, but that's about it.
 
I imagine DiMaria spoke with LvG before signing, promised to accept the philosophy -like the idea that no player is bigger than the team. There have been more players who don't like the Louis experience, especially when they fail it happens a lot. But it's not like they don't know what they're getting into with LvG.
 
Been on the fence but I want him gone now. Clearly doesn't have the mentality we want if he's running away from the first challenge he's faced with us. He can fade to obscurity in the French league.
 
If he is really willing to give up at United and walk out as a failure after 1 year then Adios amigo. Not tough enough.
 
Captain Hindsight said:
Why would ADM do that, though?

He was voted into the UEFA team of the year playing in his way and style. Why would we try to change that?

I don't think LvG/Woody can be exmept from blame as we shouldnt have bought him if we had no use for a player of his style. In trying to force him to play in a way he's probably never played, he seems to have lost the will to play for us.

Sad, angered or happy, we need to move on.
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he plays for the team not for himself no matter where he goes , and others have changed their games to fit the side they're in. he played well and inside LVG's way early. then he went sideways then backwards. but as you say time to move on.
 
NotoriousISSY said:
Retire no.7 it's cursed.
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We just need to give it to a top player who also has some balls.

None of Owen, Valencia and Di Maria fit that description, where as the 3 before them Cantona, Beckham and Ronaldo had both in spades.
 
stevoc said:
We just need to give it to a top player who also has some balls.

None of Owen, Valencia and Di Maria fit that description, where as the 3 before them Cantona, Beckham and Ronaldo had both in spades.
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Memphis should get it if di maria goes.
 
Not good enough and lacks the mentality, don't care if he leaves. It says it all we are willing to cut our losses after 1 season. He had one good season, with great CL performances. There is a reason Perez threw him out. Too inconsistent and a liability with his headless runs.
 
Letting Di Maria leave to free up the #7 shirt .... that can only mean betting is about to be suspended on a former #7 coming back. :drool:
 
Summit said:
Memphis should get it if di maria goes.
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At first i thought he is too young and the pressure might be too much.

But then i probably thought the same in 2003 with Ronaldo, Depay seems cocky enough to not let that effect him.
 
He will be great playing as a AM/freerole, but it seems his position will be as winger and i don't think it was worth paying all that money for him for that.

If we could get at least 50m for him i will accept him going, but anything less it will just show what soft touches we are when it comes to selling players.
 
This is the crux of the matter for me.

Many seem fine with the idea that Di Maria is a square peg who simply isn't suited to LVG's brand of football and/or the rigours of the Premier League - and so he has to go, good luck, let's bring in a more suitable player.

But to me the above is simply unacceptable - if the premise is true. It would mean that we spent a record amount of money on a player who was either insanely poorly assessed by the management - or just randomly purchased for show without any proper assessment from a football standpoint at all.

I don't know what to think. But I bloody well hope that said premise simply isn't true - and that if Di Maria is indeed on his way out, it's because something unforeseen has transpired, something of a personal nature or the like, and not that he was a ridiculously expensive...whim of some sort.
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God bless you for this post.
 
mu77 said:
he plays for the team not for himself no matter where he goes , and others have changed their games to fit the side they're in. he played well and inside LVG's way early. then he went sideways then backwards. but as you say time to move on.
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No company would employ a person that doesnt meet their requirements. It was quite obvious before we bought him, and even more so now. We knew his skills, attributes, talents etc. and we bought him to fit an ideal that he just wasnt suited to.

He's perfectly made for a counter attacking team who don't emphasise possession.
 
Guys I'm thinking of starting up a redcafe kickstarter so a few of us can get together and try and break into his house when he's in Paris, just to protect Manchster's good name. Would any mods be able to help me with this? A sticky or even volunteers? @Damien
 
Captain Hindsight said:
No company would employ a person that doesnt meet their requirements. It was quite obvious before we bought him, and even more so now. We knew his skills, attributes, talents etc. and we bought him to fit an ideal that he just wasnt suited to.

He's perfectly made for a counter attacking team who don't emphasise possession.
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he was not up for it. and if i ran a company i'd hire for attitude and teach (aptitude) what i needed the person for. but that does not mean take an IT guy and make him a sales rep. we didn't ask him to play left back did we. he didn't adjust his game. c'est la vie. plus he's not off yet.
 
Twigginater said:
Guys I'm thinking of starting up a redcafe kickstarter so a few of us can get together and try and break into his house when he's in Paris, just to protect Manchster's good name. Would any mods be able to help me with this? A sticky or even volunteers? @Damien
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I'm in. You paying for flights?
 
Summit said:
Memphis should get it if di maria goes.
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I agree completely, and you know Memphis would relish the challenge of wearing it. In my opinion, he's exactly the kind of player who should be given such an iconic shirt. He's got the skill, determination and swagger to pull it off. Age has little to do with it.
 
starman said:
He will be great playing as a AM/freerole, but it seems his position will be as winger and i don't think it was worth paying all that money for him for that.

If we could get at least 50m for him i will accept him going, but anything less it will just show what soft touches we are when it comes to selling players.
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Yeah I think he'd relish it. Our last three have been Owen, Valencia and Di Maria. Time to give it to someone who could thrive under the pressure.
 
Maybe life in England just doesn't suit him, maybe he struggled not knowing the language, maybe he hates the weather.

None of those excuse how he's behaving now. And none really excuse his form last year either. He's supposed to be a pro.
 
So remind me, how much did PSG spend on David Luiz? Was it 49m?

So anything below 50m would be stupidity on our part. We should be able to get 55-60m.
 
mu77 said:
he was not up for it. and if i ran a company i'd hire for attitude and teach (aptitude) what i needed the person for. but that does not mean take an IT guy and make him a sales rep. we didn't ask him to play left back did we. he didn't adjust his game. c'est la vie. plus he's not off yet.
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It all went haywire for him. Injuries, burglary, the philosophy, the red card, being dropped for Young and then being completely shit at the end. I cant really disagree with him wanting out. He obviously doesnt feel comfortable.

Obviously, for an average Joe like you (im assuming) and me and our everyday jobs, we wouldnt bail out without a fight. However, PSG is looming so its an easy way out.
 
Ive just thought we don't have much luck with South Americans do we?

Let's stick to signing Europeans in future please
 
Captain Hindsight said:
It all went haywire for him. Injuries, burglary, the philosophy, the red card, being dropped for Young and then being completely shit at the end. I cant really disagree with him wanting out. He obviously doesnt feel comfortable.

Obviously, for an average Joe like you (im assuming) and me and our everyday jobs, we wouldnt bail out without a fight. However, PSG is looming so its an easy way out.
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below average actually , you've overspent for me!
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Ive just thought we don't have much luck with South Americans do we?

Let's stick to signing Europeans in future please
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It has nothing to do with South Americans. We just haven't selected the appropriate players. Few would be complaining about South Americans if Alexis Sanchez and Sergio Aguero on our books.
 
Completely couldn't care less about him leaving. Showed some brilliance first month, then got injured and seemed to forget how to play football.

Got shoved of the ball far too easily, some of his diving was just embarrassing.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out for players, at least we are cutting our losses early and getting most of the fee back and haven't clung on in a desperate attempt to prove we were right like berbatov.

Next.
 
Meh, can't say I'm too arsed. Least I don't have to worry about whether he'll come good or not anymore.
 
I would've liked ADM to stay on purely football grounds, but if he is truly interested in moving and has a negative attitude to but (as in the AWOL situation), then we should sell him immediately and recoup what we lost, then buy Pedro for a fraction of the price. Not only will that be good business, it will give us an immensely talented and experienced player to complement the likes of Schweinsteiger, who will almost immediately integrate into the squad and work well with our existing Spanish speaking contingent.
 
poisson said:
I get what you're saying, however, he's won everything there is to win at club level (league title and CL with Real). So you could argue he's achieved great things already. No doubt he'll add to his collection of league wins at PSG.

The fact of the matter is he clearly doesn't like living in Manchester, nether do his family if the reports are accurate. What would you do in his situation? Get the lumps kicked out of you in a city and club you don't really want to be at or stay in a city like Paris, get paid more and know that you'll probably be the best player in the league! Easy choice if you look at it that way, don't you think?
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Yeah like I've said in other posts, if the family wants to go then that always comes first so I'd do what he's doing as well.
 
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