Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Yeah, I agree. His behaviour is actually quite ridiculous. For those, like me, who have supported him throughout, he's made us a look a little bit stupid.

Honestly, I think my head has turned, too, and I'd rather he'd leave. However, that doesn't mean I'd start acting like a child and insulting him on every possible occasion, like most above.
 
am i the only one who has suspicion over the burglary?

what kind of burglars would attempt to break in even they knew there are people inside the home? all i've ever heard of is that, criminals would only choose easy victims and avoid the hard targets.

maybe the burglars in manchester are very different? anyone can shed light on it would be grateful

it happened in february time when this was known we wouldn't sign falcao after his loan spell here completed. was that a coincidence?

ps: personally i don't think the decision whether if adm boarding the plane or not can be decided by adm himself. just like costa wouldn't know where the plane was heading in europe when he left his home country
 
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The writing was on the wall, anybody disputing that and saying he would be staying just hoped that or didnt want him sold. I said weeks ago he will be sold, although i expected something closer to 60m. His season summarised his stay here coupled with his private problems, then sitting on the bench just signalised a frustrated player and an unhappy manager.


Just because he spouted some bullshit to the papers about staying and wanting to improve, which he had to say at that point after the season ended. A few months later, he gets the opportunity to go to PSG, obviously he wants to go and LvG doesnt mind him to leave.

Lets hope we invest the money in a good replacement.
 
It seems to me that he doesn`t want to stay and fight for his place . The reasons why don`t really matter . He is only potentially a loss of talent because he didn`t really show consistent great form and 45M is probably about right with his high wages to take into account . We definately overpaid for him . If he goes and we replace him with Pedro I`m sure it will be for the good long term as Pedro is more than familiar with possession being the key after his time at Barca . If Di Maria goes to PSG and performs brilliantly it means nothing really as I doubt we would see that here as his disinterested performances last season showed . I would much rather players like Fellaini , Young and even Hererra who have had spells where they`ve not been in favour and they have forced there way back in .
 
Luckily Paris is crime free I hear

:lol: A lot of people laughed in France when the burglary was used as a motive, Matuidi experienced the same thing few months before Di Maria.
 
I think the fee is 52.7m + 7m in bonuses? Might be wrong though, but I don't believe in the prices we were supposed to pay as quoted by the English media. They always try to make things seems as expensive as possible when it involves us.
 
@Eyepopper @Spoony

Yeah, I agree. His behaviour is actually quite ridiculous. For those, like me, who have supported him throughout, he's made us a look a little bit stupid.

Honestly, I think my head has turned, too, and I'd rather he'd leave. However, that doesn't mean I'd start acting like a child and insulting him on every possible occasion, like most above.

Football fans are emotional people.

What annoys me is people saying it reflects badly on the club.

The only one it reflects badly on is the player. If he wants a move fair enough but there is a way to go about things.
 
Well I guess this is what you get when you overpay massively for a very talented player who has always been inconsistent as feck. There's a reason Real Madrid were so keen to replace him immediately after he had an excellent season.

Can't say I'm too bothered since it looked like he wasn't happy, didn't he score 0 goals in his last 6 months? It's pretty pointless keeping him then.

Don't care about the possible loss of money either, because the real damage was done when we bought him for a ridiculous amount in the first place. And we've got excellent value on Memphis to compensate a bit, so all in all I really can't say I'm too fussed.

It is good to be on redcafe again though, after coming back from holiday. I only logged on when Schweinifeckingsteiger signed, but it seems like it's intense as ever on here.
 
Anything close to 50m would be great value of money recouped from a signing which doesn't fit into our system at all.
 
Football fans are emotional people.

What annoys me is people saying it reflects badly on the club.

The only one it reflects badly on is the player. If he wants a move fair enough but there is a way to go about things.

This is answered by your first sentence.

Those who feel the club haven't handled this properly are those who are most probably fans of di Maria and would want us to do everything in our power to keep him here. Just more emotions getting in the way.

I do feel that we're getting "mugged" by PSG, if we were to accept the £45m bid. We should be able to get far more than that for a player of his qualities.
 
I think the fee is 52.7m + 7m in bonuses? Might be wrong though, but I don't believe in the prices we were supposed to pay as quoted by the English media. They always try to make things seems as expensive as possible when it involves us.

This.

Don't care about the possible loss of money either, because the real damage was done when we bought him for a ridiculous amount in the first place. And we've got excellent value on Memphis to compensate a bit, so all in all I really can't say I'm too fussed.

And this.
 
Football fans are emotional people.

What annoys me is people saying it reflects badly on the club.

The only one it reflects badly on is the player. If he wants a move fair enough but there is a way to go about things.

Reason why I am annoyed with the club is summed up in this post, I realise the poster is only alluding to these claims but I happen to think it's spot on

This is the crux of the matter for me.

Many seem fine with the idea that Di Maria is a square peg who simply isn't suited to LVG's brand of football and/or the rigours of the Premier League - and so he has to go, good luck, let's bring in a more suitable player.

But to me the above is simply unacceptable - if the premise is true. It would mean that we spent a record amount of money on a player who was either insanely poorly assessed by the management - or just randomly purchased for show without any proper assessment from a football standpoint at all.

I don't know what to think. But I bloody well hope that said premise simply isn't true - and that if Di Maria is indeed on his way out, it's because something unforeseen has transpired, something of a personal nature or the like, and not that he was a ridiculously expensive...whim of some sort.
 
I think the fee is 52.7m + 7m in bonuses? Might be wrong though, but I don't believe in the prices we were supposed to pay as quoted by the English media. They always try to make things seems as expensive as possible when it involves us.

Wasn't it £59.7 and £4m, in addons, if he won the Ballon d'or?
 
I think the fee is 52.7m + 7m in bonuses? Might be wrong though, but I don't believe in the prices we were supposed to pay as quoted by the English media. They always try to make things seems as expensive as possible when it involves us.

It is never really said what the exact base price is. For example, im pretty sure City havent just paid 49m straight for Sterling, that fee probably includes all possible bonuses.
 
This is answered by your first sentence.

Those who feel the club haven't handled this properly are those who are most probably fans of di Maria and would want us to do everything in our power to keep him here. Just more emotions getting in the way.

I do feel that we're getting "mugged" by PSG, if we were to accept the £45m bid. We should be able to get far more than that for a player of his qualities.

The only reason I can think of for accepting a loss is the club wants rid and quickly. Di Maria's at the beginning of his contract so why should we accept a bid that's lower than the fee we paid to Real? And before someone comes on and shouts "depreciation", he's not a car. If they want him that badly, let them pay for him.
 
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Feck this £45m is ok shite, if PSG don't want to pay significantly more then we keep him. It won't come to that because PSG are desperate to have him this summer and it's a game of who blinks first, if we do like it seems we have then shame on us. We can't keep taking these losses like we have a bottomless pit of money because sooner or later it's gonna catch up with us and our ability to compete in the market will be affected. We need to stand firm on the price and not act like a charity. This is exactly why Madrid thought they could feck us over on De Gea.
 
am i the only one who has suspicion over the burglary?

what kind of burglars would attempt to break in even they knew there are people inside the home? all i've ever heard of is that, criminals would only choose easy victims and avoid the hard targets.

maybe the burglars in manchester are very different? anyone can shed light on it would be grateful

it happened in february time when this was known we wouldn't sign falcao after his loan spell here completed. was that a coincidence?

ps: personally i don't think the decision whether if adm boarding the plane or not can be decided by adm himself. just like costa wouldn't know where the plane was heading in europe when he left his home country

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why are United , LvG and Woodward to blame?
We bought a WC player, he obviously does not want to play here , the blame is squarely on him.
Leaving LVG out of this the club and Woodward went for a marquee player to show their financial might and new direction in the transfer market . And now look like not hanging on to that marquee signing after only one season .
 
am i the only one who has suspicion over the burglary?

what kind of burglars would attempt to break in even they knew there are people inside the home? all i've ever heard of is that, criminals would only choose easy victims and avoid the hard targets.

maybe the burglars in manchester are very different? anyone can shed light on it would be grateful

it happened in february time when this was known we wouldn't sign falcao after his loan spell here completed. was that a coincidence?

ps: personally i don't think the decision whether if adm boarding the plane or not can be decided by adm himself. just like costa wouldn't know where the plane was heading in europe when he left his home country

O come on ffs, this isn't the WWE. Under what motive would a burglary be faked?
 
Am I the only one who thinks we're doing well to get £45m for him?
 
I really don't understand why people get upset with the prices we get for players. The money is not coming out of your pocket and I have faith we are extremely well run and making a decent profit each year.
 
Am I the only one who thinks we're doing well to get £45m for him?

Nope, I'd snap their hands off tbh.

I'm more concerned that if we hardball too much, we're stuck with him for another season, he once again underwhelms, and next season we're forced to sell him for a pittance.
 
Nope, I'd snap their hands off tbh.

I'm more concerned that if we hardball too much, we're stuck with him for another season, he once again underwhelms, and next season we're forced to sell him for a pittance.

Exactly. It's not like there's a cue for him.
 
Too bad he's gone.

He's an unbelievable player and IF he settles, he'd be better than Sanchez, Hazard and Silva for me.
 
I really don't understand why people get upset with the prices we get for players. The money is not coming out of your pocket and I have faith we are extremely well run and making a decent profit each year.

Yeah I can’t figure it out too. It seems there’s a lot of people who are value experts and know exactly how much a player is worth. It’s bullshit for me, just impossible to assess. Anyway, this place is much more fun during the season.
 
We can go on about Di Maria but the club have at no point tried to kill any speculation. At no point. So maybe he's not convinced LVG and after being benched for being rubbish most of the season, he's opted out. Point being, I think the feeling is probably mutual.
 
I don't know why people are moaning about the price.

We overpaid for him by a good 25m. Following that he's had a season where he's mostly been shite and found himself out of favour. And the player himself wants to leave. We should count ourselves lucky that we're getting 45 and run away with it.

Am I the only one who thinks we're doing well to get £45m for him?

Yep. We over paid in the first place. He's been shit. The manager doesn't want him. He said he hoped DDG stayed after the match, nothing of the sort for Di Maria after every presser. Expect a loss.
 
Great players want to achieve great things first and foremost and then look at the city. Rather than want to play an easy league. All of those things can happen post 30. The pay is great everywhere for him. Imagine Suarez or Aguero moving to France at the age of 27.

I get what you're saying, however, he's won everything there is to win at club level (league title and CL with Real). So you could argue he's achieved great things already. No doubt he'll add to his collection of league wins at PSG.

The fact of the matter is he clearly doesn't like living in Manchester, nether do his family if the reports are accurate. What would you do in his situation? Get the lumps kicked out of you in a city and club you don't really want to be at or stay in a city like Paris, get paid more and know that you'll probably be the best player in the league! Easy choice if you look at it that way, don't you think?
 
Hopefully this will be the last Argentinan we sign. They have a tendency to show a lack of class when leaving United.
 
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