Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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He is obviously quality but it seemed like a desperate signing and from the first moment we have had no proper role for him

Again, I don't really see what made it desperate, as such. He was a top quality player, and we had the opportunity to sign him. Fans would've been bemoaning our lack of ambition had we passed up on the opportunity. We struggled to fit him into our side, but at the same time, some of his performances were just poor irrespective of where he was playing, which was disappointing since he looked brilliant in his first few weeks.
 
Really? You think letting go of a top notch player is a step in the "right" direction? Wonder which direction is that.

No I think signing players on the basis of a proper understanding for what the team needs is what we needed and we have done that all summer.
 
I assume you feel the same way about DDG? Anywho, the way Ayush put it, it seemed like he was happy he is going and he never considered him to be a good signing. That was what I was questioning primarily.

It was a poor signing.
And dont know what you mean with DDG.
 
Again, I don't really see what made it desperate, as such. He was a top quality player, and we had the opportunity to sign him. Fans would've been bemoaning our lack of ambition had we passed up on the opportunity. We struggled to fit him into our side, but at the same time, some of his performances were just poor irrespective of where he was playing, which was disappointing since he looked brilliant in his first few weeks.

It can be seen as desperate when we overpay for a player who didn't wanna be here in the first place.
 
No I think signing players on the basis of a proper understanding for what the team needs is what we needed and we have done that all summer.
Then it is the management's fault that they could not find a suitable role for a world class player.
 
I'd rather Pedro, he may be less talented but he'll be part of a functioning team and there's nothing more dangerous than a proper working team.
 
It was a poor signing.
And dont know what you mean with DDG.
Did you say the same thing around this time last season or is this the advantage of hindsight?

Re DDG, you said you wanted a team full of players who want to play for us. DDG obviously does not want to. Would you rather he be sold as well?
 
It can be seen as desperate when we overpay for a player who didn't wanna be here in the first place.

To be fair, did we know that at the time? Unless he was openly saying to LVG and co that he didn't want to come, then surely it was difficult for them to know that?
 
If the said top notch player does not want to play for us, and shows no commitment then yes its a step in the right direction
Again, if he wants to leave he should be sold. I was pointing to the tone of the remark which also stated we should not have signed him in the first place.
 
Bet you would love to see the back of DDG as well in that case.

Yeah, if he wants to leave then I really don't care that much. In the case of ADM, he wants to leave and he isn't contributing much either, so it seems like a good decision.
 
Did you say the same thing around this time last season or is this the advantage of hindsight?

Re DDG, you said you wanted a team full of players who want to play for us. DDG obviously does not want to. Would you rather he be sold as well?
Well he will be sold eventually cause he doesnt want to be at United. What would you do with him? What should we do, keep players who dont want to play for United?
 
Disappointing he didn't get another season, but if he actually wants to leave himself, it's better to get rid now when we can still get a decent fee for him.
 
Then it is the management's fault that they could not find a suitable role for a world class player.

That is 100 % correct, I have no real issues with the Player but from the start I have felt that he was more a Woodward signing than a lvg one
 
Yeah, if he wants to leave then I really don't care that much. In the case of ADM, he wants to leave and he isn't contributing much either, so it seems like a good decision.
You do realize that even Ronaldo didn't want to play for us after 2008 but we managed to get one more excellent season out of him. Were anyone here cribbing about having to put up with a player who clearly didn't want to be here that season?
 
To be fair, did we know that at the time? Unless he was openly saying to LVG and co that he didn't want to come, then surely it was difficult for them to know that?
We knew PSG were heavily interested and were doing their best to sign him, that was the knowledge available to us fans. What Woodward and LVG had access to was surely more advanced so it wouldn't surprise me if they knew of it.
 
Well he will be sold eventually cause he doesnt want to be at United. What would you do with him? What should we do, keep players who dont want to play for United?
Not at all. Sell him if he wants to go. But this idea of selling of a player as soon as they don't want to play for us is simply not true and not really practiced by the club all the time. We didn't sell of Ronaldo when he wanted out and we won't sell DDG easily either.

I would have hoped we didn't sell him at a loss and even if we are selling him we have a suitable replacement lined up.
 
£45m is about what we should've paid for di Maria last summer, we got took to the cleaners by Real cause Woodward wanted hie superstar signing. We made a loss on him cause of that, the only thing I'm bothered about, is making sure we get a good enough replacement for him and continue to improve the squad with the money.
 
You do realize that even Ronaldo didn't want to play for us after 2008 but we managed to get one more excellent season out of him. Were anyone here cribbing about having to put up with a player who clearly didn't want to be here that season?

I can't really speak for the whole forum and especially in 2008 when I wasn't a member, but if a player wants to leave I prefer we just sell them. I don't care who it is.
 
Not at all. Sell him if he wants to go. But this idea of selling of a player as soon as they don't want to play for us is simply not true and not really practiced by the club all the time. We didn't sell of Ronaldo when he wanted out and we won't sell DDG easily either.

I would have hoped we didn't sell him at a loss and even if we are selling him we have a suitable replacement lined up.
Difference with Ronaldo and DDG at one and ADM at the other side is Ronaldo and DDG were immense for us.
 
Difference with Ronaldo and DDG at one and ADM at the other side is Ronaldo and DDG were immense for us.
Then basically you mean that we sell ADM because he has not been good for us. Then this talk of only wanting players who want to be here is not really totally true.
 
I can't really speak for the whole forum and especially in 2008 when I wasn't a member, but if a player wants to leave I prefer we just sell them. I don't care who it is.
If you actually stick to that notion irrespective of the player, kudos to you.
 
Its both. He was poor and never really wanted to play for us.
Yeah, him being poor is the key thing here. If he actually was brilliant for us none over here would be talking about letting him go because he wants to leave. Then all the talk would have been about him honoring his contract which he signed and the club holding on to him irrespective of what he feels. Like what we are doing with DDG where many would hope we hold onto him regardless of the fact that he wants to leave, citing that he has a contract and he would have to honor it. Then not many, including me, would care that he really wants to leave because he is that crucial to us.
 
if he does leave then who cares?

He did nothing for us last year so it's not as if he's leaving a huge void, he was barely noticeable apart from the millions of times he lost the ball.

Why would we want a player that shows no commitment or desire to succeed here. I just hope we get something back from PSG.
 
Yeah, him being poor is the key thing here. If he actually was brilliant for us none over here would be talking about letting him go because he wants to leave. Then all the talk would have been about him honoring his contract which he signed and the club holding on to him irrespective of what he feels. Like what we are doing with DDG where many would hope we hold onto him regardless of the fact that he wants to leave, citing that he has a contract and he would have to honor it. Then not many, including me, would care that he really wants to leave because he is that crucial to us.
Agree.
 
If we're the ones that would let him go it would be stupid from us. AdM always was not good in his first season and IMO he will grow into it and into the league.

If he wants to go then tara...
 
We'll probably have a better idea later, either from van Gaal post match or if he turns up to return to the squad as scheduled.
 
If we're the ones that would let him go it would be stupid from us. AdM always was not good in his first season and IMO he will grow into it and into the league.

If he wants to go then tara...
Very true. Really depends who was making the decision here
 
I don't want him to go, but since it seems he is then (assuming he's due any part of the fee in the form of a bonus) I hope we're at least requiring him to submit a transfer request. No way should we be selling to a fecking sugar daddy club at that price and then handing any of it to Di Maria or Mendes.
 
If he wants a move after one difficult season then good riddance. Especially after saying how he wants to fight for his place and not being one to give up or whatever. Might as well cut our losses if we get the reported 45 mil. Veron all over again.
 
If he wants a move after one difficult season then good riddance. Especially after saying how he wants to fight for his place and not being one to give up or whatever. Might as well cut our losses if we get the reported 45 mil. Veron all over again.
I agree, and I also think it might be a good chance to give some youngsters chances on the wings so I'm not really bothered whether he stays or goes.
 
Any "loss" has probably been matched by the revenue through his name of a shirt
 
If we sell Di Maria and Adnan is now played through the middle, we could with with Pedro or another wideman.
 
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