cesc's_mullet
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Yeah but remember how Nasri used to look like a little girl and worked to become a strong woman ?
Yeah but remember how Nasri used to look like a little girl and worked to become a strong woman ?
A more relevant example, for the benefit of @ItsEssexRob would be Torres.From hero to zero. A lot of examples like that. For example Kaka.
I think it was reported that his wages at PSG are lesser than what he was getting here. You're right about the restYour mind boggles?
Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.
It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
We are going around in circles here. What makes you think that his earlier managers did not ask him to modify his game a bit or Blanc won't ask him to play a certain role? Would he throw his toys out of the pram again?I agree that ADM has under-performed. But this is not the first time.
Moyes era was one where players got disillusioned. RvP started falling sick more often. Overall except De Gea and Januzaj, most of the players seemed to have lost the connect and overall never played to their potentials.
Herrera moved from a smaller team to Man Utd. He maybe loved the LvG philosophy and thought that this is the right way to do things.
ADM need not necessarily feel the same way. All players need not connect the same way with the manager.
Anyways, I am not trying to say what ADM did was right. He was wrong in many ways. I just feel that his loss of interest/form was down to not agreeing with the manager's ways and not because he didnt have the guts to play in the league.
Your mind boggles?
Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.
It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
Completely agree with the bold part. Just goes to show he did not have the ability or the confidence to be counted as the main man. Would suit him well to be in Zlatan's shadow.
We are going around in circles here. What makes you think that his earlier managers did not ask him to modify his game a bit or Blanc won't ask him to play a certain role? Would he throw his toys out of the pram again?
A more relevant example, for the benefit of @ItsEssexRob would be Torres.
I think it was reported that his wages at PSG are lesser than what he was getting here. You're right about the rest
Maybe, I quote it more in jest myself though! However Torres was already injury prone and clearly in decline, plus United fans hadnt been used to a spate of marquee signings so the reactions to Falcao and ADM were particularly overblown.Spoony doesn't need me to defend him. He's a big lad and can look after himself but at the time, Di Maria was joining us on the back of a Champion's League final and some great displays for Argentina in Brazil. Who could have foreseen such a calamity? I certainly didn't see it coming. I bet if you trawled the Shed End, or whatever it's called, for comments about Torres when he signed, you'd find pretty much the same thing.
Torres was shit before he joined us.
Torres was shit before he joined us.
He deserves to be called names for being a lazy, money grabbing, effort lacking pussy feckThis thread is just filled with hate,I'm not his biggest fan but how are people calling him names for wanting to go to his preferred destination which is clearly the best option for him?
It's actually funny when you realise that most of the people calling him names and what not were the same people that refused to admit he was having a terrible season - the same people who were quick to throw the agenda card, Can't forget the ones who refuted the claims that he was unhappy when it was blatant.
You should have been able to get £50m for him even last year according to Caf logic with Di Maria transfer.Torres was shit before he joined us.
Pathetic cnut
He deserves to be called names for being a lazy, money grabbing, effort lacking pussy feck
Im not sure about thatNot like he didn't try to succeed or anything.
Your mind boggles?
Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.
It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
Im not sure about that
I certainly questioned his effort throughout the season
While the city is much nicer I don't think weather is really a factor there, is it?
Effort during the second half of the season was highly questionable I'll give you that, but he was up for it up until January at which point he might have already started negotiations with Man City of Paris.
This thread is just filled with hate,I'm not his biggest fan but how are people calling him names for wanting to go to his preferred destination which is clearly the best option for him?
It's actually funny when you realise that most of the people calling him names and what not were the same people that refused to admit he was having a terrible season - the same people who were quick to throw the agenda card, Can't forget the ones who refuted the claims that he was unhappy when it was blatant.
There might have been a couple but mostly di Maria got a lot of stick last season from many posters and rightfully so
The second paragraph is spot on. I can the name the one who were busy mocking anyone who suggested that he might leave with comments like "mind readers", "body language readers", "gullible fools who believe everything in the tabloids' and other inane comments.
Im going to throw cups of my urine at the TVDoes that mean when PSG are on BT I can boo everytime he gets the ball and throw popcorn at the TV?
We won't all be rushing round to watch their games with you then?Im going to throw cups of my urine at the TV
Not like he didn't try to succeed or anything.
There might have been a couple but mostly di Maria got a lot of stick last season from many posters and rightfully so
Nobody could deny he didn't look happy, but all the newspapers were reporting that him and his family had found somewhere else to live and he wanted to stay. I just want rid and as soon as possible.Not pointing you out, mate.
I wasn't talking about people who were criticizing his effort and performances, sometimes rightly so, more those who refused to believe that he didn't look happy and could be off.
You actually believe he gave his all for the club?
He was lazy and uninterested from about December onwards. He was given a few more games to prove himself, notably against Arsenal in the cup and he fecked up. The fact Young and Mata kept him out of the team says it all, they worked harder and put in far better performances.
Di Maria did not try to succeed.
You can always visit Paris but you can't always play in the PL week in week out. The weather well...any player can adapt to the weather in 1 month, it hasn't held back Suarez, Aguero and Sanchez in their performances so it shouldn't even matter. And a ligue 1 title would never outweigh the thrill of the PL for me. Overall I feel it's a lack of mentality on his part unless his family genuinely hates Manchester but that's my 2 cents.Your mind boggles?
Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.
It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
Yeah, even Di Maria himself, what a fecking idiotNot pointing you out, mate.
I wasn't talking about people who were criticizing his effort and performances, sometimes rightly so, more those who refused to believe that he didn't look happy and could be off.
Which is why so many people think he's a dick. So why are you so bemused by the abuse he's getting?
Which goes back to my earlier point about this thread, he is being vilified for his performances, effort (or lack thereof) during the second half of the season ? But if I can remember correctly that was "LVGs fault", we weren't playing him in his "preferred position - the CM position", "He wasn't the one to blame" for his misfortunes.
If he was so uninterested, as you and many others keep stating, in the latter stages of the season, why was he still assisting goals? Even in that joke performance against WBA, he created an easy opportunity for Rojo and also hit the target with a very good shot, late on. If van Gaal felt that di Maria wanted out, then he would not have started him against Hull, on the last day.
Fact is, something happened over the last few weeks that seems to have pushed him out of the door. It was only recently, that he gave an interview stating how he wanted to fight for his place. However, since then, he seems to have changed his mind. Maybe he spoke to van Gaal about his future and wasn't given assurances, we don't really know.
Regardless of the position he finds himself in, he helped us get back to CL and that's all I care about. If he wants to leave, so be it, we'll move on as we always do. No point in being bitter about it.
The caf isn't a hive mind with a single unanimous opinion. There were a lot of people (me included) who were infuriated by his lack of effort and general sloppiness while he was still playing for us. Chances are it's those same people who are most vocal in the villification since he looks like leaving.
Which goes back to my earlier point about this thread, he is being vilified for his performances, effort (or lack thereof) during the second half of the season ? But if I can remember correctly that was "LVGs fault", we weren't playing him in his "preferred position - the CM position", "He wasn't the one to blame" for his misfortunes.