Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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From hero to zero. A lot of examples like that. For example Kaka.
A more relevant example, for the benefit of @ItsEssexRob would be Torres.

Your mind boggles?

Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.

It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
I think it was reported that his wages at PSG are lesser than what he was getting here. You're right about the rest
 
I agree that ADM has under-performed. But this is not the first time.
Moyes era was one where players got disillusioned. RvP started falling sick more often. Overall except De Gea and Januzaj, most of the players seemed to have lost the connect and overall never played to their potentials.

Herrera moved from a smaller team to Man Utd. He maybe loved the LvG philosophy and thought that this is the right way to do things.
ADM need not necessarily feel the same way. All players need not connect the same way with the manager.

Anyways, I am not trying to say what ADM did was right. He was wrong in many ways. I just feel that his loss of interest/form was down to not agreeing with the manager's ways and not because he didnt have the guts to play in the league.
We are going around in circles here. What makes you think that his earlier managers did not ask him to modify his game a bit or Blanc won't ask him to play a certain role? Would he throw his toys out of the pram again?

Disagreement with a manager is fine but you play for the shirt and it is your duty to give it all. No matter what he felt, as long as he was here he should have worked his arse off to get back in the team and prove that he is worth the price we bought him for. A lack of desire to prove your doubters wrong is most worrying. Glad we got rid if he actually went AWOL and didn't care to be here in the first place.
 
Your mind boggles?

Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.

It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.

Completely agree with the bold part. Just goes to show he did not have the ability or the confidence to be counted as the main man. Would suit him well to be in Zlatan's shadow.
 
Completely agree with the bold part. Just goes to show he did not have the ability or the confidence to be counted as the main man. Would suit him well to be in Zlatan's shadow.

I think he will be a big fish in a small pond in France, with Zlatan (pending any movement he may make to a different club) being the only bigger fish around.
 
We are going around in circles here. What makes you think that his earlier managers did not ask him to modify his game a bit or Blanc won't ask him to play a certain role? Would he throw his toys out of the pram again?

The only thing that makes me feel that his problem is LvG's methods is that he was never known a problem player at Real. So I am assuming he had some other issues. Again I am not saying LvG's methods are wrong or this player is right. But somehow their thoughts may have not matched.

Anyways he is going and I guess it is better for both him and us.
 
Spoony doesn't need me to defend him. He's a big lad and can look after himself but at the time, Di Maria was joining us on the back of a Champion's League final and some great displays for Argentina in Brazil. Who could have foreseen such a calamity? I certainly didn't see it coming. I bet if you trawled the Shed End, or whatever it's called, for comments about Torres when he signed, you'd find pretty much the same thing.
Maybe, I quote it more in jest myself though! However Torres was already injury prone and clearly in decline, plus United fans hadnt been used to a spate of marquee signings so the reactions to Falcao and ADM were particularly overblown.
 
There was already doubt over Torres, many eyebrows were raised at Chelsea paying that sort of fee when he was already showing clear signs of decline, but some people put it down to him being sick of playing for Liverpool and wanting a move.


The reaction to signing ADM was appropriate, it was a massive signing and should have been a game changer for us. Falcao was always a gamble, but I think most people wanted to believe he could rediscover his old self.
 
This thread is just filled with hate,I'm not his biggest fan but how are people calling him names for wanting to go to his preferred destination which is clearly the best option for him?

It's actually funny when you realise that most of the people calling him names and what not were the same people that refused to admit he was having a terrible season - the same people who were quick to throw the agenda card, Can't forget the ones who refuted the claims that he was unhappy when it was blatant.
 
I don't know anyone can care or get so angry about a player who played for us for one year and barely achieved anything. It's just not worth getting that annoyed over. He's gone now, oh well.
 
This thread is just filled with hate,I'm not his biggest fan but how are people calling him names for wanting to go to his preferred destination which is clearly the best option for him?

It's actually funny when you realise that most of the people calling him names and what not were the same people that refused to admit he was having a terrible season - the same people who were quick to throw the agenda card, Can't forget the ones who refuted the claims that he was unhappy when it was blatant.
He deserves to be called names for being a lazy, money grabbing, effort lacking pussy feck
 
Your mind boggles?

Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.

It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.

While the city is much nicer I don't think weather is really a factor there, is it?
 
Im not sure about that

I certainly questioned his effort throughout the season

Effort during the second half of the season was highly questionable I'll give you that, but he was up for it up until January at which point he might have already started negotiations with Man City of Paris.
 
This thread is just filled with hate,I'm not his biggest fan but how are people calling him names for wanting to go to his preferred destination which is clearly the best option for him?

It's actually funny when you realise that most of the people calling him names and what not were the same people that refused to admit he was having a terrible season - the same people who were quick to throw the agenda card, Can't forget the ones who refuted the claims that he was unhappy when it was blatant.

:lol:

The second paragraph is spot on. I can the names the one who were busy mocking anyone who suggested that he might leave with comments like "mind readers", "body language readers", "gullible fools who believe everything in the tabloids' and other inane comments.
 
:lol:

The second paragraph is spot on. I can the name the one who were busy mocking anyone who suggested that he might leave with comments like "mind readers", "body language readers", "gullible fools who believe everything in the tabloids' and other inane comments.
There might have been a couple but mostly di Maria got a lot of stick last season from many posters and rightfully so
 
Not like he didn't try to succeed or anything.

You actually believe he gave his all for the club?

He was lazy and uninterested from about December onwards. He was given a few more games to prove himself, notably against Arsenal in the cup and he fecked up. The fact Young and Mata kept him out of the team says it all, they worked harder and put in far better performances.

Di Maria did not try to succeed.
 
There might have been a couple but mostly di Maria got a lot of stick last season from many posters and rightfully so

Not pointing you out, mate.

I wasn't talking about people who were criticizing his effort and performances, sometimes rightly so, more those who refused to believe that he didn't look happy and could be off.
 
Not pointing you out, mate.

I wasn't talking about people who were criticizing his effort and performances, sometimes rightly so, more those who refused to believe that he didn't look happy and could be off.
Nobody could deny he didn't look happy, but all the newspapers were reporting that him and his family had found somewhere else to live and he wanted to stay. I just want rid and as soon as possible.
 
You actually believe he gave his all for the club?

He was lazy and uninterested from about December onwards. He was given a few more games to prove himself, notably against Arsenal in the cup and he fecked up. The fact Young and Mata kept him out of the team says it all, they worked harder and put in far better performances.

Di Maria did not try to succeed.

If he was so uninterested, as you and many others keep stating, in the latter stages of the season, why was he still assisting goals? Even in that joke performance against WBA, he created an easy opportunity for Rojo and also hit the target with a very good shot, late on. If van Gaal felt that di Maria wanted out, then he would not have started him against Hull, on the last day.

Fact is, something happened over the last few weeks that seems to have pushed him out of the door. It was only recently, that he gave an interview stating how he wanted to fight for his place. However, since then, he seems to have changed his mind. Maybe he spoke to van Gaal about his future and wasn't given assurances, we don't really know.

Regardless of the position he finds himself in, he helped us get back to CL and that's all I care about. If he wants to leave, so be it, we'll move on as we always do. No point in being bitter about it.
 
Your mind boggles?

Bigger wages (not that United can't offer/match them, but PSG aren't exactly frugal), much nicer city, guaranteed titles, better weather. Family influence too by the sounds of it.

It's an easier gig than playing for United in the Premier League.
You can always visit Paris but you can't always play in the PL week in week out. The weather well...any player can adapt to the weather in 1 month, it hasn't held back Suarez, Aguero and Sanchez in their performances so it shouldn't even matter. And a ligue 1 title would never outweigh the thrill of the PL for me. Overall I feel it's a lack of mentality on his part unless his family genuinely hates Manchester but that's my 2 cents.
 
Not pointing you out, mate.

I wasn't talking about people who were criticizing his effort and performances, sometimes rightly so, more those who refused to believe that he didn't look happy and could be off.
Yeah, even Di Maria himself, what a fecking idiot :lol:
 
Which is why so many people think he's a dick. So why are you so bemused by the abuse he's getting?

Which goes back to my earlier point about this thread, he is being vilified for his performances, effort (or lack thereof) during the second half of the season ? But if I can remember correctly that was "LVGs fault", we weren't playing him in his "preferred position - the CM position", "He wasn't the one to blame" for his misfortunes.
 
Which goes back to my earlier point about this thread, he is being vilified for his performances, effort (or lack thereof) during the second half of the season ? But if I can remember correctly that was "LVGs fault", we weren't playing him in his "preferred position - the CM position", "He wasn't the one to blame" for his misfortunes.

The caf isn't a hive mind with a single unanimous opinion. There were a lot of people (me included) who were infuriated by his lack of effort and general sloppiness while he was still playing for us. Chances are it's those same people who are most vocal in the villification since he looks like leaving.
 
If he was so uninterested, as you and many others keep stating, in the latter stages of the season, why was he still assisting goals? Even in that joke performance against WBA, he created an easy opportunity for Rojo and also hit the target with a very good shot, late on. If van Gaal felt that di Maria wanted out, then he would not have started him against Hull, on the last day.

Fact is, something happened over the last few weeks that seems to have pushed him out of the door. It was only recently, that he gave an interview stating how he wanted to fight for his place. However, since then, he seems to have changed his mind. Maybe he spoke to van Gaal about his future and wasn't given assurances, we don't really know.

Regardless of the position he finds himself in, he helped us get back to CL and that's all I care about. If he wants to leave, so be it, we'll move on as we always do. No point in being bitter about it.

He was still lazy and disappeared for much of the match and he got most of his assists in the first part of the season IIRC.

Looking back at his quotes about staying here and wanting to be a legend that he made about a month ago, couldn't he have just said that to keep the peace whilst his transfer was being worked on? He couldn't come out and say he was leaving until it was 110% certain. Really wasn't anything else for him to say was there? Similar to Suarez when he was continually asked about leaving Liverpool, he said it right up to about a week or two before his move I believe.

I'm not bitter, more disappointed that we gave him everything we possibly could to prove himself in one of the best leagues in world football and he was a dick about it. He took his ball and went home sort of speak.

I think Rio said it best with this:

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The caf isn't a hive mind with a single unanimous opinion. There were a lot of people (me included) who were infuriated by his lack of effort and general sloppiness while he was still playing for us. Chances are it's those same people who are most vocal in the villification since he looks like leaving.

That's the most annoying thing for me, if a player wants to leave for whatever possible reason then we really have to accept it. However while you're at the club, be the best professional player you can be and clearly Di Maria wasn't that, he was lazy and extremely disappointing.
 
Which goes back to my earlier point about this thread, he is being vilified for his performances, effort (or lack thereof) during the second half of the season ? But if I can remember correctly that was "LVGs fault", we weren't playing him in his "preferred position - the CM position", "He wasn't the one to blame" for his misfortunes.

I was so upset when people pretended that Di Maria was playing as CM for more than a season, Di Maria was/is a very good winger he just didn't performed well for us, the position is just a very bad excuse.
 
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