Bollocks, it's like Rome in Manchester 24/7! Weather is unimportant though, because Paris is a world city. We may be better than Brum and the like but Paris and other alpha cities are in a different stratosphere.
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Bollocks, it's like Rome in Manchester 24/7! Weather is unimportant though, because Paris is a world city. We may be better than Brum and the like but Paris and other alpha cities are in a different stratosphere.
He was still lazy and disappeared for much of the match and he got most of his assists in the first part of the season IIRC.
Looking back at his quotes about staying here and wanting to be a legend that he made about a month ago, couldn't he have just said that to keep the peace whilst his transfer was being worked on? He couldn't come out and say he was leaving until it was 110% certain. Really wasn't anything else for him to say was there? Similar to Suarez when he was continually asked about leaving Liverpool, he said it right up to about a week or two before his move I believe.
I'm not bitter, more disappointed that we gave him everything we possibly could to prove himself in one of the best leagues in world football and he was a dick about it. He took his ball and went home sort of speak.
I think Rio said it best with this:
Here's an interesting view on why he wants to leave.
Cannot see tweets at work. Could you put that in text?
Sorry, it's a Times article. Not sure if I can put it in text.
It's written by Oliver Kay, and he basically says that di Maria wants out because he doesn't feel comfortable working with van Gaal. It says he feels the van Gaal lost faith in him, and wasn't too happy being publicly criticised after the Liverpool match. di Maria was also annoyed by the fact that he was forced to play in several different positions, early on in the season. Finishes off by stating that it's van Gaal decision (backed by the club) to push him out as he doesn't feel di Maria fit's here at the club.
He doesn't need to prove himself in another league, he already was MVP in a CL final which he won, he also won every other trophy in Spain. He is also a starter for Argentina, and as we have seen in the Copa, when his starting place for Argentina wasn't in doubt after being a bench warmer for United, then it for sure won't be in doubt while playing for PSG.
I also don't see ppl calling Veratti/Moura/Zlatan/Cavani pussies or whatever because they play in a "weak" league.
Di Maria is not English and probably barely even speaks the language, so it's understandable he doesn't have the desire to prove he can succeed in England or in LvG's system, when he has already proved that he can succeed in the best league in the world.
If he didn't want to be here or work hard for us then good that we are getting rid, but just because he didn't succeed here doesn't mean that the whole world or majority of non- United fans will see him as a weak player. Indeed his United season will be forgotten as soon as he adds his first trophies for PSG to his La Liga trophy collection.
It's a shame it didn't work out and obviously we have to do what's best for our club, but some act like the footballing world is all about United and the PL.
I also don't see ppl calling Veratti/Moura/Zlatan/Cavani pussies or whatever because they play in a "weak" league.
Di Maria is not English and probably barely even speaks the language, so it's understandable he doesn't have the desire to prove he can succeed in England or in LvG's system, when he has already proved that he can succeed in the best league in the world.
If he didn't want to be here or work hard for us then good that we are getting rid, but just because he didn't succeed here doesn't mean that the whole world or majority of non- United fans will see him as a weak player. Indeed his United season will be forgotten as soon as he adds his first trophies for PSG to his La Liga trophy collection.
It's a shame it didn't work out and obviously we have to do what's best for our club, but some act like the footballing world is all about United and the PL.
Agreed.
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That's fair enough about him being tried in different positions, but so were many other players as well. Rooney most notably, dropping to midfield. We played Blind at DM, LB and now CB. Mata on the RW. Herrera also adapted his game, he was roaming from his position too much and LVG dropped him until he felt he had learned his new role.
There doesn't seem to be any issues from any of them about having to adapt their game?
Players were played out of position because we had an unbalanced squad, they done the job they are highly paid to do. Head down and got on with doing as the manager requested.
I think he's fallen out with van Gaal, too. I believe it was after the red card or the Liverpool performance where there were talks that the two had an argument. Once you mess with van Gaal, it's hard to get back on his good side.
As with the positions, the difference between di Maria and the others named is the fact that he had a terrific 6 months playing in newly found favourable position. It would have been hard for him to adapt (or fail to adapt) to others.
Yeah, it would be the Van Gaal way or the highway. Still his way has proven to be successful in the past so why a player feels the need to rock the boat I don't know. He's worked with many players similar to Di Maria and if he had given it one more season at least rather than leaving then he could of fulfilled his promise here.
Be interesting to see who our new #7 shall be. Least that is something exciting to look forward to
Haha, I agree!
Yeah, it would be the Van Gaal way or the highway. Still his way has proven to be successful in the past so why a player feels the need to rock the boat I don't know. He's worked with many players similar to Di Maria and if he had given it one more season at least rather than leaving then he could of fulfilled his promise here.
Be interesting to see who our new #7 shall be. Least that is something exciting to look forward to
It's a real shame it didn't work out, he has the ability to tear the league apart.
And, agreed. Spend the money wisely. Can see Pedro as 7 and Memphis as 9.
Not at United he didn't. Try a terrific 6 games (and that's being generous)
Yeah, I was implying his last 6 months at Real. He only played in the LCM position against QPR, Leicester, Everton and West Ham.
That doesn't make it better.
Ok, yeah. Gotcha. Although the fact this terrific 6 months came in a position that was one he hadn't played in his career so far does undermine any point about him finding it particularly difficult to play in a few different positions (including, mainly, one he had always played before those 6 months and continues to play to this day for Argentina)
There's not even a contradiction. he could still be the best player in the world (he isn't and personally I never said he was
) but have proved himself to aoso be an RFC. Eg Saurez was easily the best player in the league a couple of years back, but he too was an RFC.Ah, yeah. The whole "he played well as winger for Argentina/Real" debate. The difference, and a massive one, is the fact that he had players like Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema, Ozil, Messi, Aguero constantly pulling defenders away and making room for a decent to good winger.
Last season, when at his best, everyone else was really, really poor, hence why he stood out like a sore thumb, in the first few weeks. Unfortunately for him, when others found form, he lost his and found himself on the bench.
He reminds me of Rooney and his current predicament. Wayne's not so bad as a support striker or a wide forward, as he's shown over the years. However, if you place him upfront with the right players around him, he's a completely different player.
Then he came back into a side that had just picked up an excellent run of results without him (playing the best football we played all season) and managed to play even worse than he did before he was dropped.
Amazing how it's always someone else's fault that he played so crap. Struggle to think of any other United signing who had so many excuses made on his behalf. Possibly Kagawa? Although that was mainly down to the insane dedication of one man, @MadWinger
I never said it was some else's fault for him being crap. Although, it's not a farfetched suggestion with certain players.
I said when he was good, we, as a team, were shit. And when we were good, he was shit.
There's not even a contradiction. he could still be the best player in the world (he isn't and personally I never said he was
I know I meant it more in the sense of how everyone loved him and then 11 months later everyones calling him all the names under the sun
I agree though hes the kind of player you dont want to see at your club. At least Torres had a better attitude, he never gave up trying.
Is the daily mail story true about him being too tired for the medical? I'm sure the extended break we gave him followed by the unauthorised absence he should be well rested. Then with the flight to Doha I'm sure he went first class and was pretty comfortable and had a sleep on the flight. Sort of shows the character of the guy if true. Lazy Cnut for us and now PSG.
I know I meant it more in the sense of how everyone loved him and then 11 months later everyones calling him all the names under the sun
I agree though hes the kind of player you dont want to see at your club. At least Torres had a better attitude, he never gave up trying.
Well, I guess you need to get to know somebody before you can pass judgment.
Another obvious contrast for me is Falcao. Never did it on the pitch (and some people saw it as a lack of effort), but always seemed to have a sound attitude compared to ADM.
Falcao gave his all on the pitch and for the reserves. He didn't run from the premier league he stayed in it with Chelsea as he has a point to prove, whether he can do it or not is another thing. I hope he does well, but not too well. ADM should take a leaf out of falcaos book and reject PSG and stay and fight for the team and his reputation.
I think we dicked him about quite badly and I don't blame him at all for wanting out. Would have done well in a consistent system and position.
He was of course, but he has been dicked about. He played 6 different positions by Feb.
His performances were shit after his injury though, and I'm guessing he wasn't listening to LVGs instructions at times too.
Will be interesting to see where will PSG deploy him.
He is taking the piss now, just get the thing done you pussy.
If there was a chance of him staying and we don't sign a replacement quickly, then it could well be Di Maria. We should have sorted out this "fast game changer" that lvg wants. Hopefully it's in progress.
The likes of Rooney, Jones, Carrick, Valencia, Mata, Blind, Rojo, Herrera, Young and more were all asked to play in multiple positions. If they asked to leave because of that, we'd rightly call them little bitches.
Never looked forward to see the official statement of a sold player as much as this.
Is it possible we sold enough Di Maria shirts to cover the loss of 15m? Maybe we just paid his wages after all.
It's a nothing story regardless. There is absolutely no reason for him to do a medical after completing a ridiculously long flight where he may have been unable to sleep. It is just a drummed up load of shit from an awful rag to get the dregs of society foaming at the mouth.
The headline could just have easily have read "Man doesn't do needless medical after long-haul flight as it would be pointless, dangerous and makes no sense".
It's a load of horseshit.
Not really all that different though. He's consistently been picked in advanced positions, both wide and through the middle, with a view to creating and scoring goals. All of which should be familiar to him from the positions he's played in his career so far.
Andy Mitten wrote an article where he said that he'd heard that Di Maria was given freedom to express himself by Van Gaal that he didn't allow any other player in the squad. Which would, in part, explain the total lack of defensive effort from Di Maria whatever position he played in. Add to that his habit of taking pot-shots from here, there and everywhere and he looked like a player who felt he could do whatever the feck he wanted. Just a pity he did it so badly.
This. Rooney was thrown around his whole career. Valencia has become RB, Mata has played RW, LW, AM I think even CM (although I'm not sure), Herrera played as nr. 6, Young played as fullback and wingback.. Need I go on.
Yet its a problem for mr. Di Maria.
Not really he played as a striker when he came back from injury and then at no10.
Like I said he has alot to answer for himself, but pre injury he was playing well then after injury we decided to play him in a couple of unfamilair posititions also at a time when the team itself was struggling.
Like I said I'm not absolving him of any fault, his performances were rubbish for one, and he has chosen to take the easy root out for 2.
However its almost as if everyone wants to act like LVG didn't have a part to play in any of this at all, when he clearly did.
Lets analyse Rooneys last 3 season, his output and quite a few of his performances were not up to scratch, the excuse we use for him is that he is being played out of position, but when its used for someone else then its not valid?
My point is he didnt complain and he put up with it. Although of course he loves to play up front.
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