This di Maria seems to have brought out the worst in people. Arguments galore, in here.
I, for one, hope he stays.
I, for one, hope he stays.
Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG
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@Twigginater no luck mate? Try this - https://www.redcafe.net/search/19483775
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No optimism here just facts.We paid £60m for the lad and we're about to sell him for £45m, are we losing money? yes but we are also saving a hell of a lot more not to mention the money we have already recouped from using his brand (20% of our shirt sales, 9% of total shirts sold in the league which is significantly higher than Sanchez who is the second highest at 3%),Madrid recouped 20m from James' shirt sales in the first month, so that should give you an idea of how a player's brand helps generate more revenue for clubs.
Besides,it is common knowledge that we overpaid by about £10-15m which would make 45m the ideal price for Di Maria anyway, we already lost that 15m to Madrid, we are selling Di Maria at market value, Madrid are guaranteed 7m if he features in our CL campaign this season and he also has a clause that guarantees them more money depending on his number of appearances and contributions to the team in the next 3-4 years, i should also state that there is a clause in his contract which guarantees them about £4m if he happens to win the Ballon d'or as a United player, it has also been reported that his fee could potentially rise to €190m by 2019 which suggests that the 15m people are crying about is in fact chump change compared to what we might end up paying him at the end of his contract.
I guess a lazy summary of the deal would be "United signed AdM for 60m and are selling him for 45m,losing 15m in the process" - which no one is refuting, but if you're so concerned about the intricacies of our financial statement, it would also be wise to evaluate the contract,before making your judgement.
But who's got time for that right?
No offence mate but this sounds like the net spend shite we see on RAWK.
If I'm not mistaken, we didn't receive extra fees from Nike from shirt sales like Madrid did with Adidas. And so because we know we overpaid it isn't a loss? Finally, cutting your losses is still a loss.
Erm yes there is. It's you.
I hated the signing from the beginning and it pissed me off that we spent a lot of money on his wages. That has nothing to do with di Maria. Him getting a standing ovation at OT has nothing to do with my opinion.
If di Maria was one of the best, he would've performed like one of the best. Over the course of an entire season, he was plain average. He's had a good start and put in a few great performances, but then injuries and a lot of poor to very poor performances followed.
If I were di Maria, I'd have to way too much of an ego to just leave to easier paths after one year. I wouldn't want the people at Madrid to be right about letting me go. I'd want to prove myself at one of the biggest clubs in possibly the most competitive league in the world. I'd want to show my worth and establish myself as one of the truly greats. Instead, he opts the easy way out and acts in a very unprofessional manner.
I've always been a fan of di Maria's game, but he's too soft to be the lead guy at a big club.
There is no bitterness, I'm pissed off and rightfully so, because at the fee we paid and with the talent he has, I simply expected a lot more from him.
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I wouldn't know anything about RAWK as i don't frequent there, since you weren't sure about the add-ons part
i decided to break it down for you, we lost about 15m extra(on paper) to Madrid last summer (and we are on course to lose a whole lot more in the next 3-4 years), we are selling him to PSG for 45m (market value) - we aren't taking a loss by selling him to PSG for 45m(+ 5m add ons ), we are actually cutting our losses before the clauses in his contract are activated which would add up to (and further surpass the fee we paid Madrid).
So to reinvigorate my earlier point, we are not taking a loss by selling him to PSG for 45m + 5m add ons (as reported), and his contribution to the team last season (however little) 13 assists and 4 goals actually means the chump change we are losing in the form of add ons to Madrid is being recuperated in the PSG deal (haha, those stats do come in handy after all).
Probably net spend shite to a **** though ^
You are. And we only overpaid in the form of add-ons which would skyrocket if Di Maria features for us in the PL and CL this season, so in this case we are cutting our future losses and we have also been reimbursed by the add ons in the PSG deal and his contributions last season which helped us secure top 4 (yes his assists were vital, and this is coming from one of his biggest critics) putting us in a position to actually negotiate firmly.
Earlier point - i don't see how we are losing money to PSG.
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How much more would we pay in add ons if he stayed?
I don't think anyone knows, there is probably a lot of add ons, like the ones we see in FM.
First of all, Falcao didn't play well, but his attitude was always spot on. There was no sense of his blaming others for his poor performance. It just didn't work out, and it's obvious that the fans at Old Trafford recognized this and therefore had no hard feelings. Di Maria, on the other hand, became more and more despondent as the season wore on (which perhaps was understandable given the new culture and the burglary attempt.) However, despite the team's treating him well during this transition, he immediately looks to escape to PSG, thereby giving credence to those claims that he never really wanted to be here.
I don't get what his coming to the most competitive league has to do with anything. He's said to be a world class player, so surely he'd want to test himself in said league. If not, then he's a coward.
As for Ibrahimovic, I personally can't wait to see Zlaten treat Angel to one of his customary face kicks. And the weather is Paris is far from tropical, so I can't see what that would have to do with anything. Sure it's a pretty incredible city, but I struggle to imagine Angel Di Maria taking in the cultural delights of the Musee D'Orsay.
All said, I'm glad we're getting rid of this gimp. I wish him nothing but failure.
All I remember was the reported add on if he won the ballon d'or. Pretty sure we paid 59.7m as the actual transfer fee.
I'm just incredibly disappointed regarding Di Maria. I remember his first few games, me and the fella who sits next to me just buzzing about how quick and exciting he was - he said "He get's me off my seat, not had this since Ronaldo left". A sharp contrast from then and now, I'm extremely ashamed that this guy was given the number 7 shirt, only to disrespect it. If this is all true, then good riddance.
Anyone got a sneaky feeling the transfer will fall through and he'll end up staying?
Most of the people who bought United shirts with Di Maria on the back would have bought them anyway, it just would have been Falcao or Rooney not Di Maria. Real Madrid didn't make €20m from James' shirt sales, nowhere near that in fact.
I think you are right. I am still glad we took a calculated risk on this player despite some red flags and the bad outcome. It should have worked out better but it's not for lack of ambition on the part of the club.
Maybe because PSG are Qatari owned and he is set to be their marquee signing.
Rarely see Chelsea players having medicals in Russia or our players in the US.
Aspetar Qatar sports clinic is commonly used by PSG, Lucas had his medical there too at the time and it's one of PSG's official sponsors. Many of their players go there when injured (Lucas and Aurier among others last year). It's also one of the few 20 FIFA approved sports clinics in the world (none in France), with at its head Chalabi the former PSG doctor (who has convinced dozens of world-reknown doctors to work there like Philippe Landreau who has left France for Doha and is one of the best knee/shoulder ligaments specialists in the world), along with Dr Saillant (the one who worked with Schumacher, Ronaldo, etc.) who is also... a PSG medical adviser.
He's probably scared to go there.
Abramovich and Glazers didn't buy into football clubs to promote their home country though.
Thanks, wasnt aware. Makes sense.
will pull a hamstring in the medical
What a coward. Lets finish this business sharpish and get rid
Hopefully he pulls his hamstring when signing the contract
i hope we are not paying him since he didnt come back from his international break!
Glad to see him gone soon.
Or hopefully he goes onto sign for PSG, does okay there but never reaches the heights he once did at Madrid but yet lives a happy life where people don't wish injury upon him.
This should be a rule we stick to. Always get rid of players who don't want to be here, no exceptions and no big money contracts to make them stay.
His form will go to shit first time there will be rain in Paris.
It'll be hard to pass the medical when he has no spine.
Sad end to what was one of our more exciting signings in a while. Gutted that it didn't work out. Our team had been crying for a player of his ilk for a while.
Hope we have quality replacement lined up (better than a Barca bench warmer), or the wide areas will resemble the strike department.
Hope we have quality replacement lined up (better than a Barca bench warmer), or the wide areas will resemble the strike department.
I'm probably a lot older than you, so some words of wisdom: wishing bad on someone who hasn't actually done anything bad to you, is not right.
Also, never hold grudges - life really is too short.
Let Di Maria go (just as you and many fans, seem to have let Falcao go) and focus on our current set of players.
Hopefully this triggers the Pedro move now! Looking forward to seeing what Pedro can do for us. On last season's form, Pedro's much the better player.
Blame is shared on all sides for the way this has played out.
LVG shouldn't had agreed to the move in the first place if he wanted to completely change the player.
United should have supported Di Maria more in his personal life.
Di Maria should have tried harder to adapt to the team.
Gutted he has gone without having played for United in a Europe, and it shows the excitement of last summers transfers don't always turn out how you expect!
LVG shouldn't had agreed to the move in the first place if he wanted to completely change the player.
United should have supported Di Maria more in his personal life.
Di Maria should have tried harder to adapt to the team.
Gutted he has gone without having played for United in a Europe, and it shows the excitement of last summers transfers don't always turn out how you expect!
I agree with this.
Last year our strike force was pathetic, so we have got rid of RVP and Falcao, but we have not bought any replacements (well, maybe Depay will be our new striker, but he is untested).
I'd actually say that currently, our attack is weaker than last year and when out scoring the opposition is the aim of the game, it is worrying that we seem to be putting our eggs in the Rooney and Pedro basket.
More disappointed than Falcao. I thought his second season would be great with us.
What the hell?
How do you know how the club supported his personal life? What should they have done more? Explain?
Lots of footballers have had burgularlys.
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